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Posted by: Peter Damian

I suppose we have all noticed the new fundraiser today. Random pictures of people claiming to have generated lots of valuable yet free content. For example Alan Sohn – user:Alansohn – who says “On Wikipedia, I’ve created 2,463 articles. All of them for free. “

Great stuff, Alan, your most significant contribution seems to be ‘List of people from Teaneck, New Jersey’, 68 edits, but I couldn’t be bothered to check any further back than this year. Nearly all of your 2,463 articles are about High Schools in New Jersey. This does not persuade me to part any of my hard-earned cash to WMF, particularly not if I have to divert it from my current financial support of institutions like the Warburg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warburg_Institute . Interesting that the Warburg article is far smaller than any of the voluminous articles about New Jersey schools.

Posted by: Malleus

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1108_UK_Roger/GB/en&utm_source=B11_1108_UK_Roger&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1108_UK_Test9&language=en&uselang=en&country=GB&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3AUserLogin%26returnto%3DSpecial%3AWatchlist%26campaign%3DACP1 . I think whoever chose the "I've created X articles" approach has made a fundamental mistake; just makes the editors look smug.

I notice as well that they're all being called authors, not editors. Significant?

Posted by: that one guy

Can we have one saying "I deleted X articles" or "I blocked Y users"?

Posted by: It's the blimp, Frank

Or I OWN x articles?

Posted by: lilburne

Can't they pay for their own entertainment?

Posted by: Peter Damian

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 5:40pm) *

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1108_UK_Roger/GB/en&utm_source=B11_1108_UK_Roger&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1108_UK_Test9&language=en&uselang=en&country=GB&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3AUserLogin%26returnto%3DSpecial%3AWatchlist%26campaign%3DACP1 . I think whoever chose the "I've created X articles" approach has made a fundamental mistake; just makes the editors look smug.

I notice as well that they're all being called authors, not editors. Significant?


Were you not asked, Malleus? You seem to have written more than that useless lot.

Posted by: thekohser

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 12:40pm) *

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1108_UK_Roger/GB/en&utm_source=B11_1108_UK_Roger&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1108_UK_Test9&language=en&uselang=en&country=GB&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3AUserLogin%26returnto%3DSpecial%3AWatchlist%26campaign%3DACP1 .


Roger sounds like he was a real party animal as a kid:

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When I was a child I read a book about a detective, it may have been Sherlock Holmes, who'd find answers to his problems in his "Index", a card index where he collected all the information he'd ever need.

The idea inspired me. I spent many hours cutting up old books and my sister's "look and learn" comics to create my own version of “The Index”. I must have made thousands of cards, and arranged them all alphabetically so that I could know everything. But the problem was cross-referencing all the articles. So I gave up. I threw the last six or seven feet of it away a few years ago.


Posted by: The Joy

QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 8th November 2011, 2:56pm) *

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 12:40pm) *

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1108_UK_Roger/GB/en&utm_source=B11_1108_UK_Roger&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1108_UK_Test9&language=en&uselang=en&country=GB&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3AUserLogin%26returnto%3DSpecial%3AWatchlist%26campaign%3DACP1 .


Roger sounds like he was a real party animal as a kid:

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When I was a child I read a book about a detective, it may have been Sherlock Holmes, who'd find answers to his problems in his "Index", a card index where he collected all the information he'd ever need.

The idea inspired me. I spent many hours cutting up old books and my sister's "look and learn" comics to create my own version of “The Index”. I must have made thousands of cards, and arranged them all alphabetically so that I could know everything. But the problem was cross-referencing all the articles. So I gave up. I threw the last six or seven feet of it away a few years ago.



Roger has never seen a library catalog before? dry.gif

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 8th November 2011, 12:14pm) *

QUOTE(thekohser @ Tue 8th November 2011, 2:56pm) *

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When I was a child I read a book about a detective, it may have been Sherlock Holmes, who'd find answers to his problems in his "Index", a card index where he collected all the information he'd ever need.

The idea inspired me. I spent many hours cutting up old books and my sister's "look and learn" comics to create my own version of “The Index”. I must have made thousands of cards, and arranged them all alphabetically so that I could know everything. But the problem was cross-referencing all the articles. So I gave up. I threw the last six or seven feet of it away a few years ago.

Roger has never seen a library catalog before? dry.gif

He's bragging that he's OCD. Only a Wikipedian would do that (or a hacker).

Posted by: Malleus

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 8th November 2011, 7:55pm) *

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 5:40pm) *

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1108_UK_Roger/GB/en&utm_source=B11_1108_UK_Roger&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1108_UK_Test9&language=en&uselang=en&country=GB&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3AUserLogin%26returnto%3DSpecial%3AWatchlist%26campaign%3DACP1 . I think whoever chose the "I've created X articles" approach has made a fundamental mistake; just makes the editors look smug.

I notice as well that they're all being called authors, not editors. Significant?


Were you not asked, Malleus? You seem to have written more than that useless lot.

I was eventually asked after I took the piss about not being asked, but of course I refused, as the WMF and I see eye-to-eye about very little. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum/Archives/2011/September#Interview_with_Wikimedia_Foundation.

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 6:40pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 8th November 2011, 7:55pm) *

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 5:40pm) *

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1108_UK_Roger/GB/en&utm_source=B11_1108_UK_Roger&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1108_UK_Test9&language=en&uselang=en&country=GB&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3AUserLogin%26returnto%3DSpecial%3AWatchlist%26campaign%3DACP1 . I think whoever chose the "I've created X articles" approach has made a fundamental mistake; just makes the editors look smug.

I notice as well that they're all being called authors, not editors. Significant?


Were you not asked, Malleus? You seem to have written more than that useless lot.

I was eventually asked after I took the piss about not being asked, but of course I refused, as the WMF and I see eye-to-eye about very little. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum/Archives/2011/September#Interview_with_Wikimedia_Foundation.



I wish I was asked.


"Here is a testimonial from a user that created multiple Featured Articles after being banned." smile.gif

Posted by: radek

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 5:40pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 8th November 2011, 7:55pm) *

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 5:40pm) *

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1108_UK_Roger/GB/en&utm_source=B11_1108_UK_Roger&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1108_UK_Test9&language=en&uselang=en&country=GB&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3AUserLogin%26returnto%3DSpecial%3AWatchlist%26campaign%3DACP1 . I think whoever chose the "I've created X articles" approach has made a fundamental mistake; just makes the editors look smug.

I notice as well that they're all being called authors, not editors. Significant?


Were you not asked, Malleus? You seem to have written more than that useless lot.

I was eventually asked after I took the piss about not being asked, but of course I refused, as the WMF and I see eye-to-eye about very little. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum/Archives/2011/September#Interview_with_Wikimedia_Foundation.


I would've liked to seen the "A Personal appeal from an editor who's driven 5,784 other editors off of Wikipedia"

Posted by: lilburne

Where can you claim compensation for them having wasted your time in reading the drivel?

Posted by: Peter Damian

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 11:40pm) *

I was eventually asked after I took the piss about not being asked, but of course I refused, as the WMF and I see eye-to-eye about very little. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum/Archives/2011/September#Interview_with_Wikimedia_Foundation.


That's a great thread.

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Wed 9th November 2011, 12:31am) *

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 11:40pm) *

I was eventually asked after I took the piss about not being asked, but of course I refused, as the WMF and I see eye-to-eye about very little. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum/Archives/2011/September#Interview_with_Wikimedia_Foundation.
That's a great thread.

Yeah, but I still think Malleus is a supermasochist.

And the more I think of it, The Young Ones seems to be the perfect Wikipedia sitcom.
It's crude, filthy, disgusting, hostile, trollish, insane, and ultimately worthless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANquX0YHFhw could be an Arbcom get-together.

Posted by: It's the blimp, Frank

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1107_US_Brandon/en/US&utm_source=B11_1107_US_Brandon&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1107_US&language=en&uselang=en&country=US&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AWatchlist

QUOTE
I feel like I’m living the first line of my obituary.


You can't see his photo on that page, but when it pops up at Wikipedia, he looks like he works part-time at a meth lab.

Posted by: Malleus

QUOTE(radek @ Wed 9th November 2011, 7:21am) *

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 5:40pm) *

QUOTE(Peter Damian @ Tue 8th November 2011, 7:55pm) *

QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 8th November 2011, 5:40pm) *

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1108_UK_Roger/GB/en&utm_source=B11_1108_UK_Roger&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1108_UK_Test9&language=en&uselang=en&country=GB&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fw%2Findex.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3AUserLogin%26returnto%3DSpecial%3AWatchlist%26campaign%3DACP1 . I think whoever chose the "I've created X articles" approach has made a fundamental mistake; just makes the editors look smug.

I notice as well that they're all being called authors, not editors. Significant?


Were you not asked, Malleus? You seem to have written more than that useless lot.

I was eventually asked after I took the piss about not being asked, but of course I refused, as the WMF and I see eye-to-eye about very little. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Malleus_Fatuorum/Archives/2011/September#Interview_with_Wikimedia_Foundation.

I would've liked to seen the "A Personal appeal from an editor who's driven 5,784 other editors off of Wikipedia"

As I said, I refused. And it's 5,785 if you don't mind.

Posted by: Abd

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 10th November 2011, 1:51pm) *
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1107_US_Brandon/en/US&utm_source=B11_1107_US_Brandon&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1107_US&language=en&uselang=en&country=US&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AWatchlist
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I feel like I’m living the first line of my obituary.
You can't see his photo on that page, but when it pops up at Wikipedia, he looks like he works part-time at a meth lab.
The rest of that paragraph.
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I don’t think there will be anything else that I do in my life as important as what I do now for Wikipedia. We’re not just building an encyclopedia, we’re working to make people free. When we have access to free knowledge, we are better people. We understand the world is bigger than us, and we become infected with tolerance and understanding.
It follows, then, that those who are banned have been working to make people slaves, to oppress them, to deprive them of "free knowledge," to ban them, uh .... never mind, strike "ban." What was I saying? Ah, yes, Wikipedia is the embodiment of all Truth and Goodness, send usyour money.

Give a man a fish, he's fed for one day. Teach him to fish, he's fed for life. Give him "free knowledge," he's, he's, he's ...

Addicted to editing Wikipedia.

Knowledge is never free. Acquiring it takes experience, work, and courage. Sometimes even money. If one needs a taste of knowledge, a hint, one can sometimes find it at Wikipedia. Real knowledge, the kind that actually does make people free, cannot be found on Wikipedia, what remained of it has mostly been deleted or revised literally to death. Used to be you could find links to truly useful web sites on Wikipedia. Gone, for the most part, for this or that "reason." "Site has advertising on it, remove as spam." "Site advocates a point of view."

(people who have knowledge advocate the points of view developed through the knowledge, so of course they advocate it.)

(Those, by the way, were made-up standards, but are based on real situations that actually damaged the project because an admin enforced the idea.)

Posted by: NuclearWarfare

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 10th November 2011, 6:51pm) *

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1107_US_Brandon/en/US&utm_source=B11_1107_US_Brandon&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1107_US&language=en&uselang=en&country=US&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AWatchlist

QUOTE
I feel like I’m living the first line of my obituary.


You can't see his photo on that page, but when it pops up at Wikipedia, he looks like he works part-time at a meth lab.

According to Matthew from the WMF, Brandon Harris' banner is apparently doing the best of all of them.

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Sat 12th November 2011, 11:16am) *

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 10th November 2011, 6:51pm) *

https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1107_US_Brandon/en/US&utm_source=B11_1107_US_Brandon&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1107_US&language=en&uselang=en&country=US&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AWatchlist

QUOTE
I feel like I’m living the first line of my obituary.


You can't see his photo on that page, but when it pops up at Wikipedia, he looks like he works part-time at a meth lab.

According to Matthew from the WMF, Brandon Harris' banner is apparently doing the best of all of them.



His is only the second scariest one. I find that amusing.

Posted by: Abd

QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Sat 12th November 2011, 11:16am) *
QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 10th November 2011, 6:51pm) *
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1107_US_Brandon/en/US&utm_source=B11_1107_US_Brandon&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1107_US&language=en&uselang=en&country=US&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AWatchlist
QUOTE
I feel like I’m living the first line of my obituary.
You can't see his photo on that page, but when it pops up at Wikipedia, he looks like he works part-time at a meth lab.
According to Matthew from the WMF, Brandon Harris' banner is apparently doing the best of all of them.
That's because he's serving really tasty Kool-Aid. Fast-acting, you won't know what hit you until you wake up a few years later and realize the cost.

Posted by: RMHED

QUOTE(Abd @ Sat 12th November 2011, 7:39pm) *

QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Sat 12th November 2011, 11:16am) *
QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 10th November 2011, 6:51pm) *
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=L11_1107_US_Brandon/en/US&utm_source=B11_1107_US_Brandon&utm_medium=sitenotice&utm_campaign=C11_1107_US&language=en&uselang=en&country=US&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSpecial%3AWatchlist
QUOTE
I feel like I’m living the first line of my obituary.
You can't see his photo on that page, but when it pops up at Wikipedia, he looks like he works part-time at a meth lab.
According to Matthew from the WMF, Brandon Harris' banner is apparently doing the best of all of them.
That's because he's serving really tasty Kool-Aid. Fast-acting, you won't know what hit you until you wake up a few years later and realize the cost.

Kool-Aid laced with roofies, and while you're sleeping Brandon the pediaphile will fiddle about with your credit card.

Posted by: SB_Johnny

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 9th November 2011, 3:58am) *

And the more I think of it, The Young Ones seems to be the perfect Wikipedia sitcom.

Dammit, can't watch on netflix. hrmph.gif
QUOTE
The Young Ones: Every Stoopid Episode is not available to watch instantly

I really feel bad for the people who volunteer to make these "personal appeals". I'm sure they're nice people who really are trying to make the world better, but they don't know that their efforts are being used by Jimbo & Co. to promote their leeching careers.

Posted by: radek

QUOTE(SB_Johnny @ Sat 12th November 2011, 3:23pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 9th November 2011, 3:58am) *

And the more I think of it, The Young Ones seems to be the perfect Wikipedia sitcom.

Dammit, can't watch on netflix. hrmph.gif
QUOTE
The Young Ones: Every Stoopid Episode is not available to watch instantly

I really feel bad for the people who volunteer to make these "personal appeals". I'm sure they're nice people who really are trying to make the world better, but they don't know that their efforts are being used by Jimbo & Co. to promote their leeching careers.


You can watch most of the good scenes at youtube. You'll miss out on the "plot", unless you know the sequence to go through but hey, can't have everything.