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Today I will get community banned, getting attacked by a lynch mob without any ability to say anything in my defense.

But here's an interesting comment by Will Beback

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=476232084

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*'''Comment''' If folks can be sanctioned for what they do on other websites then there are a bunch of WR contributors who'll have a lot to answer for. I think that might be a good idea, but I just want to make sure that folks know the proposed action here would set a precedent


The situation reminded to me http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came%E2%80%A6 this thing

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.


Good luck to the ones who's left, and who's never spoken out!

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weren't you already banned from wikipedia already? im trying to understand what you were actually banned for. i dont see any diffs in the link.

if mbz1 is the standard for community banned then many editors should be getting the shaft as well, including several admins.

but of course that will never happen.

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QUOTE(Wikifan @ Sun 19th February 2012, 11:55pm) *

weren't you already banned from wikipedia already? im trying to understand what you were actually banned for. i dont see any diffs in the link.



You are right, there was no any differences. I was banned for alleged harassment, but neither members of govcom nor the users who supported the ban read my RFC, and altough I asked them to provide some specific differences of the alleged harassment I was refused, or simply ignored., but I did get an interesting feedback from WMF employee . He looked at tens of idiotic blocks Gwen imposed, and found a single one to complain about.I happily explained to him why this block was unwarranted and he shut up.

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Really? w:User:Nextbook is the example you want to use? I agree with that block, 100%. Philippe (WMF) 04:20, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the comment, Philippe (WMF).
Yes, I would like to use this example and here's why:
1. A new editor made a few contributions.
2. He is warned he has to use sources.
3. So in his next two edits he tries to use sources.In this edit he provides not just one, but three sources almost for every sentence he adds, but he does it like this "(Marks, "Lost Paradise", page 292.) " because he is not sure what is the right way to list references. In his next and the last edit he inserts the external link to the article in Guardian, which of course is a reliable source.
4. The user is blocked and never returns.
So, IMO Gwen Gale at least failed to assume a good faith towards new user. Also she was edit warring with him before the block. Maybe there was not enough involvement, but this was a wrong block of a new user, who should have been helped not blocked. May I please ask you to clarify why you said you'd supported the block? Thanks.--Mbz1 04:50, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
BTW I did find the book the user referred to. It is a reliable source that was published by Free Press.--Mbz1 04:57, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Do you still "agree with that block, 100%"?--Mbz1 16:53, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

(there was no response although I asked him the same question at his talk too. )

Nobody else commented on the content, nobody pointed out a harassment, but I was banned.

There were a few honest and absolutely uninvolved admins and users from Meta and other projects that stated there was no harassment
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I can´t see any harrasement in this request, just links provided to public logs and talks. Already the first request for deletion was rejected because of that, so please stop posting it over and over again. Thanks. --[[User:WizardOfOz|<font face="Monotype corsiva" size="4" style="color:#000000;color:blue"><i>WizardOfOz</i></font>]] <sup><span style="font-family:Italic;color:blue">[[user_talk:WizardOfOz|talk]]</span></sup> 07:32, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

*{{keep}} and strongly per WizardOfOz. [[User talk:Herbythyme|talk thyme]]</span></small></sup></b> 12:04, 11 February 2012 (UTC)


BTW here's an interesting point: If one says there were no harassment, one should not provide a differences to support his statement. If one says there was harassment, at least one difference is required.
Anyway there was absolutely nothing to ban me for, but I have a good idea what a dirty game played by WMF lead to this ban.

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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Sun 19th February 2012, 6:35pm) *

BTW here's an interesting point: If one says there were no harassment, one should not provide a differences to support his statement. If one says there was harassment, at least one difference is required.
Anyway there was absolutely nothing to ban me for, but I have a good idea what a dirty game played by WMF lead to this ban.


I thought you didn't care that you were banned and were happy to be gone from wikipedia? Almost everything you've said here since you were banned on AN/I tells a totally different story.
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QUOTE(The Garbage Skow @ Mon 20th February 2012, 5:01pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Sun 19th February 2012, 6:35pm) *

BTW here's an interesting point: If one says there were no harassment, one should not provide a differences to support his statement. If one says there was harassment, at least one difference is required.
Anyway there was absolutely nothing to ban me for, but I have a good idea what a dirty game played by WMF lead to this ban.


I thought you didn't care that you were banned and were happy to be gone from wikipedia? Almost everything you've said here since you were banned on AN/I tells a totally different story.

Well, community ban and blocks are different. I was not going to go to wikipedia ever again. I am happy I left. I did not care, if it was a self-requested block or a block by arbcom, but community ban hurt me, not because now I could never return (I was not going to return anyway), but it makes me sad to be banned like that. It was not only unneeded and unfair. It was also very cruel.

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