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Michaeldsuarez
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http://josephevers.blogspot.com/2011/04/re...-dramatica.html

Daniel Brandt's friend is now aware of the fork.
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post Wed 20th April 2011, 9:57pm
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The /b/tards can't seem to comprehend what the word copyright means. ED had a far stronger copyright policy than the weak CC by SA thing that Wikipedia has and this .ch fork would have to, at the very least, give attribution to ED for their copied information.

But they haven't and can't seem to understand why they have to.

I'm so hoping that Sherrod will get their service provider to shut them down.
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Wed 20th April 2011, 5:57pm) *

The /b/tards can't seem to comprehend what the word copyright means. ED had a far stronger copyright policy than the weak CC by SA thing that Wikipedia has and this .ch fork would have to, at the very least, give attribution to ED for their copied information.

But they haven't and can't seem to understand why they have to.

I'm so hoping that Sherrod will get their service provider to shut them down.


The .ch version looks like a lot more fun, though. I did contribute here and there to the old ED, but I may sign up for the other one now. I mean, c'mon... Juggalo, the oh internet intro;

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A 'juggalo' is an individual with an unhealthy obsession with the musical workings of rap group Insane Clown Posse. Juggalos are known for wearing clan make-up in public, bumming around trailer parks, showing devotion to the 'family', going to juggalo gatherings, and having children out of wedlock. Juggalos may be found online on Youtube, Myspace, and occasionally in Furry communities.


vs. ED Classic;

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A Juggalo is a member of the Insane Clown Posse's cult of personality(Its a well known fact that all Juggalos are Lolcows). They are easy to spot, as they proudly wear their clown makeup in public, dress in dark clothing and behave without any class or dignity. They are not to be confused with goths, as goths have better taste in music. Typically hailing from trailer parks, these individuals are often fat, ugly, toothless, use an amount of profanity in conversation that even EDiots would find excessive, have no taste, smoke meth, so helplessly retarded if they killed themselves their Parents would be proud, and opt out of their educations in the 8th grade. Strangely enough, despite claiming to enjoy ICP for their musical merits (Insinuating they enjoy rap in general), you will never hear them listening to any music groups outside of the Psychopathic Records label. They are utterly oblivious and often hostile to the reality that the band and it's "music" is a parody, much like the more popular and successful joke of a white rapper, Eminem.

tl;dr: Take the worst of rap, the worst of rock, white trash, wiggerhood, MTV, mix generously with steaming shit, then throw clown face paint on top of the whole mess, and you get a Juggalo.


I'll choose lulz over milquetoast, thanks.
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post Wed 20th April 2011, 10:42pm
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I don't have a problem with the lulz themselves, I approve of lulz where appropriate. However, they shouldn't have broken copyright. Is .ch so dependent on the original ED that it can't come up with new content on its own? Are the /b/tards that unoriginal?
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Wed 20th April 2011, 11:42pm) *

I don't have a problem with the lulz themselves, I approve of lulz where appropriate. However, they shouldn't have broken copyright. Is .ch so dependent on the original ED that it can't come up with new content on its own? Are the /b/tards that unoriginal?

I despise lulz, it's a repulsive word spawned and used by internet dwelling retards.

Copyright for ED shite, yeah that's what really matters aint it.
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post Thu 21st April 2011, 12:38am
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After reading this interview with Sven Slootweg, who registered the encyclopediadramatica.ch domain name, I have a depressing feeling in the pit of my stomach that they will just laugh at DMCA notices. Sven is a high-level Anonymous dude.

This is the second service provider ed.ch has had in less than a week. It's quite possible that they're ready and able to shift their entire site to a new provider in a few hours. That would force Sherrod to play whack-a-mole with DMCA notices, which leaves her essentially powerless.

This is unfortunate. The Aboriginal article is back, the Nigger article is back, and the new article on Sherrod is so bad that it made me feel sad for her — something I would have said was impossible just one week ago.

The only good news is that it should take a long time for ed.ch to get their rankings up, especially if they keep switching service providers. And maybe — this is a long shot — Google will rank ed.ch down in the mud where it belongs.
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post Thu 21st April 2011, 1:00am
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Wow, Anonymous sure has fallen from the days when it actually meant something. It had a purpose, a goal, and actually worked to better the world. Now it has disintegrated into useless people like Sven.

Clearly then, if DMCA notices are useless, what needs to be done is a lawsuit. I'm sure the US government would love to get Mr. Slootweg in trouble.

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According to the *.ch domain registry terms of service, it might be possible to make a case for revocation of the encyclopediadramatica.ch domain name. For example, look at number 7 below. I suspect the Australian government would, if pressed, send the registry a letter requesting revocation of the domain name due to the Aboriginal article, which the Australian Civil Rights Commission claims is a criminal violation under Australian law. Other countries might also have objections to various articles if they have "hate speech" laws.

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SWITCH revokes the registration of a domain name if SWITCH is presented with a decision of a court or of a court of arbitration enforceable in Switzerland, or a decision by a Swiss criminal prosecution, administrative or regulatory authority enforceable in Switzerland, an expert decision of the dispute resolution service for ".ch" and ".li" domain names, or if a settlement concluded in or out of court by both parties is presented, according to which SWITCH is directly instructed to revoke the domain name, without SWITCH being a party to the corresponding proceedings, or which contains the required holder's consent to revocation or by which that consent is replaced. The third party must submit a certificate of the enforceability of the decision.

SWITCH can revoke the registration of domain names if:

1. the holder breaches the applicable law;

2. the holder breaches these GTC or the contractual relationship with SWITCH and does not eliminate the breach within a period set by SWITCH;

3. the fees are not paid in accordance with the contract;

4. the holder breaches the duty to maintain data;

5. there is an evident risk that SWITCH could make itself legally liable due to the registration and/or use of the domain name. In that case the revocation takes place in consultation with OFCOM or the Office of Communications respectively;

6. the holder has died or has been deleted from the register of commerce as a result of bankruptcy or liquidation;

7. other important reasons such as international recommendations, standards or harmonisation require it. In that case the revocation takes place in consultation with OFCOM or the Office of Communications respectively.

With revocation, the domain name is deleted from the Whois service, the database and the zonefile. With the deletion, the domain name becomes available for re-registration after a transition period as defined in para. 3.3.3.

If the revocation took place on the basis of para. 1 above, the domain name is made available for re-registration at the time designated in the decision or in the settlement between the parties or, if such a time is not specified, as quickly as possible.
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post Thu 21st April 2011, 1:32am
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http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User:Meeps...acebook_Project

The original ED wouldn't post the dox of children.

Tarc, you need to be careful with who you associate yourself with.
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post Thu 21st April 2011, 1:53am
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Whoa...okay, yeah, that page is a definite issue. That's, like, a call the police issue right there.
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Wed 20th April 2011, 9:32pm) *

http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/User:Meeps...acebook_Project

The original ED wouldn't post the dox of children.


I think Jessi Slaughter would disagree, along with most of the Deviant Art people that had ED articles about them.

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Tarc, you need to be careful with who you associate yourself with.


Oh, please, like this place is any better? WR regulars have spent countless hours compiling personal info, editing habits, juicy info and whatnot into various threads over the years....there is an entire subforum on "Notable Editors", even. Go look at how much effort has been expended to out Slim and Jayjg, for starters.

ED does it with liberal does of "LOL F4G" speak, while WR pats itself on the back for every bon mot you yahoos toss around. I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?

Two sides of the same coin.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 20th April 2011, 11:57pm) *

I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?

Two sides of the same coin.


I don't think even Awbrey reads them with a straight face laugh.gif

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[Modnote: Recent posts, however well-intentioned, make this something we don't want searched by Google, so putting it here, even if it doesn't entirely fit, seems the least of several evils.]
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True, we don't want the /b/tards to hear us bad-mouthing them or they might go all fake-Anonymous on us.
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The original ED wouldn't post the dox of children.


That guy posing as Bieber is blackmailing kids. That's cyberbullying of a serious nature and with all the data the naive kids post (including place of residence and phone numbers), the situation will get out of hand, and end up really badly for some people. Let ed.ch and the rest of the anon crew know about this: cyberbullying is a crime: US man jailed
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Jail em all
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/21/so..._automatically/
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 21st April 2011, 3:57am) *


Oh, please, like this place is any better? WR regulars have spent countless hours compiling personal info, editing habits, juicy info and whatnot into various threads over the years....there is an entire subforum on "Notable Editors", even. Go look at how much effort has been expended to out Slim and Jayjg, for starters.

ED does it with liberal does of "LOL F4G" speak, while WR pats itself on the back for every bon mot you yahoos toss around. I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?

Two sides of the same coin.


With the occasional exception though, the people who this site "outs" generally deserve it. These are innocent kids that some creepy weirdo is messing with. I just read the page and I'm disgusted such "people" exist in the world.

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QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 21st April 2011, 3:57am) *


Oh, please, like this place is any better? WR regulars have spent countless hours compiling personal info, editing habits, juicy info and whatnot into various threads over the years....there is an entire subforum on "Notable Editors", even. Go look at how much effort has been expended to out Slim and Jayjg, for starters.

ED does it with liberal does of "LOL F4G" speak, while WR pats itself on the back for every bon mot you yahoos toss around. I mean, seriously, can anyone read an Awbrey post with a straight face?

Two sides of the same coin.

Very astute of you. For example, I know that Awbrey often poses as Justin Beiber to 13 year-old girls on Facebook, then threatens to post their private info on the net when he has it, unless they write in their Facebook accounts "I like ****** **** up my ***."

Yes, he does it all in ancient Greek, for sure, but that doesn't change the essential nature of it. It's just slightly more challenging for the reader to follow (not to mention the girls). It makes WR a more highbrow site, but actually we're still just as evil. You know we are.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 21st April 2011, 4:22pm) *
Very astute of you. For example, I know that Awbrey often poses as Justin Beiber to 13 year-old girls on Facebook, then threatens to post their private info on the net when he has it, unless they write in their Facebook accounts "I like ****** **** up my ***."


My real-life nickname is also that is also that of a famous musician, and I used to use this name as my handle on various Unix machines back in the early/mid 90's. Somehow my accounts were visible to the outside world and I was flooded...and I mean flooded...with e-mails from 15 year-old girls professing their undying love, providing their home addresses and phone numbers, thinking they they were privileged enough to have found the secret e-mail address of Mr. Celebrity. Being an immature 19 yr old at the time, I called a few of them to fuck around. Some I pretended to be Mr. Celebrity and messed with them a bit, but that got tiring quickly so I then berated them for being gullible. If their parents answered, I told them to keep a better eye on their retarded kids.

So, would my grizzled, 40-ish self pull this fake Bieber shtick? No. But I find I have little sympathy for the gullibility/stupidity of teens who think a famous person is actually taking a personal interest in them. I've been there, and teaching gullible people a lesson isn't always a bad thing, as harsh as the tactics may be.


Apart from the Bieber Fever junk though, overall ED was simply a very amusing website that was quite handy to link to from time to time. Whether it is mbz's fanboys trying to get into her panties or the general whining of the "omg don't delete my article, it has a million google hits!" brigade, something has been lost. "Oh Internet" is the kind of site my grandmother would find funny. I mean, Broccoli dog? Seriously?
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Wed 20th April 2011, 6:00pm) *

Wow, Anonymous sure has fallen from the days when it actually meant something. It had a purpose, a goal, and actually worked to better the world. Now it has disintegrated into useless people like Sven.

And let's not forget SchuminWeb, that paragon of Wikipedia administrators and Anonymous members. yecch.gif
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