PR industry to "cooperate" with Wikipedia Options

[thekohser]

There are a number of well-timed counter-movements in the wake of the Bell Pottinger flap, where consortia of PR industry leaders are going to try to "reach out" to Wikipedia and gain consensus on how PR firms can dutifully and ethically interact with Wikipedia.

I have a feeling that in about 6 months there will be a lot of heartbroken, grieved people in the PR industry.

[Silver seren]

Kohser, I don't think you're a very good representation of paid editing. Sure, you're correct about the Arch Coal incident, but your actions since 2006 have been less than scrupulous.

[thekohser]

Kohser, I don't think you're a very good representation of paid editing. Sure, you're correct about the Arch Coal incident, but your actions since 2006 have been less than scrupulous.

Criticism from the guy who fantasizes about people dressed in fur suits? I'll take it!

[Silver seren]

Kohser, I don't think you're a very good representation of paid editing. Sure, you're correct about the Arch Coal incident, but your actions since 2006 have been less than scrupulous.

Criticism from the guy who fantasizes about people dressed in fur suits? I'll take it!

Nice way to try to deflect the point of the comment.

Explain to me again, Gregory, why are you in the CREWE group? It's pretty self-evident that you don't really support the "Ethical Wikipedia Engagement" part of the acronym. And a number of the members there know it as well.

[thekohser]

Explain to me again, Gregory, why are you in the CREWE group? It's pretty self-evident that you don't really support the "Ethical Wikipedia Engagement" part of the acronym. And a number of the members there know it as well.

I hope you're prepared to listen to me, because you really need a talking to.

You've called my "actions" "less than scrupulous", but provided no evidence.

I've been engaging on a friendly basis with Steve Rubel and Shel Holtz since 2006 and 2007. I've been in touch with Phil Gomes since two years ago. I wrote a promotional white paper about marketing research's role in the PR industry. When I was a research supplier, PR firms like Manning Selvage & Lee, Ogilvy PR, and Euro RSCG would pay my company hundreds of thousands of dollars per year for my services. I think I have a right to provide my valuable input on the Facebook CREWE group.

Now, what are your credentials in the PR industry, fur ball?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/crewe.group/

Wow. If you want to see Jimmy Wales being a serious foot-in-mouth prick, check out that FB page. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

I wish I could see what he's saying, but somehow he has his Facebook set to exclude my account from viewing his content, even in the group.

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[Silver seren]

Explain to me again, Gregory, why are you in the CREWE group? It's pretty self-evident that you don't really support the "Ethical Wikipedia Engagement" part of the acronym. And a number of the members there know it as well.

I hope you're prepared to listen to me, because you really need a talking to.

You've called my "actions" "less than scrupulous", but provided no evidence.

I've been engaging on a friendly basis with Steve Rubel and Shel Holtz since 2006 and 2007. I've been in touch with Phil Gomes since two years ago. I wrote a promotional white paper about marketing research's role in the PR industry. When I was a research supplier, PR firms like Manning Selvage & Lee, Ogilvy PR, and Euro RSCG would pay my company hundreds of thousands of dollars per year for my services. I think I have a right to provide my valuable input on the Facebook CREWE group.

Now, what are your credentials in the PR industry, fur ball?

When I said "less than scrupulous", I was referring to your actions on Wikipedia, not elsewhere (how would I even know about those?).

And in terms of your actions on Wikipedia, I really only have to use one word that encompasses most of your actions: Sockpuppets.

And then I can also link to your very recent comment in this forum right here.

And we both know you're made more outright comments of that nature on WR before.

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[thekohser]

When I said "less than scrupulous", I was referring to your actions on Wikipedia, not elsewhere (how would I even know about those?).

And in terms of your actions on Wikipedia, I really only have to use one word that encompasses most of your actions: Sockpuppets.

And then I can also link to your very recent comment in this forum right here.

And we both know you're made more outright comments of that nature on WR before.

Oh... then I probably owe you an apology. I didn't realize you were one of those WikiLove disciples who believes that every WikiRule that is broken in order to achieve right outcomes in the real world, is a matter of "unscrupulous" action in the real world.

When you eventually graduate from college in a couple of years, I hope that you'll come to realize that "sockpuppeting on Wikipedia" doesn't always equal "less than scrupulous" in the real world. If it takes a sockpuppet to remove lies from the world's largest defamation platform, then the right and just man sockpuppets.

Are you going to Wikimania 2012 in Washington? I'll hope to meet you there. I'm going to learn a lot about the "true believer" personalities.

Sorry about the "fur ball" epithet, too. Some furries are kind of cute.

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