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[Eva Destruction]

Huh, same thing as happened when I ran for Reconfirmation for Adminship; all those people who bemoaned that no-one took steps to ensure that their use of the tools was still approved by the community accuse anyone who tries as being narcissistic... It may have been true in my case (which is why I am again referring to it, I guess) but you (WR habituees) could at least be consistent...

Reconfirmation is one thing (and this is one place where I can take the moral high ground, since AFAIK you and I are the only people among all those who mouth off about term limits and compulsory reconfirmation to actually shit or get off the pot). It's totally different from a "mommy, look at the poop I did before I flush it!" exercise in posturing like this, with its "In order to be fully upfront, should I receive nothing but negative feedback, I will not resign" (trans: "If you're nice about me, you're right; if you're rude about me, you're wrong") disclaimer. This is as pointless an exercise as a North Korean election; even Shankbone, Slim, Jimbo and the other targets of the Wrath Of WR don't make an active point of ignoring criticism.

[radek]

Disagree.

See Wikipedia:Administrators_open_to_recall/Past_requests. In my view the least dramatic successful recall would have to be Crzrussian. That was a while ago now.

And AFAICT Crzrussian is pretty much the only one. Sort of. The other close ones are Durova, but I think that was done mostly through AN/I (I could be wrong about this) and Keilan I who was quickly reconfirmed (but gets kudos for going through the process).

The rest are under the "the request was not made in good faith" excuse or something similar, or not enough people cared - though I'm sure in many cases the requests actually weren't made in good faith.

[Somey]

I think Somey's nailed our dear friend here. He missed being the center of attention the way he was when he was up for RFA. Why he hasn't run for RFB is beyond me, it's the obvious Next Step in the Ladder of WikiNarcissism.

I'm not sure I should say this, but I think Kelly may have misunderstood me - I meant that his user page layout, since it's not very attractive, tends to suggest that he isn't a narcissist. As for his asking for public criticism as a form of attention-seeking, that's not especially narcissistic either - it's more likely to be a sign of insecurity, a depressive tendency, or even just-plain boredom. (Real narcissists don't court criticism and then act on it; they demand praise, and they feel betrayed when they don't get it.)

I don't personally interact with any of these people (unless they register accounts here), so all I usually have to go on is what they do on Wikipedia, but I don't really get the bad vibes from this guy. Maybe I'm going soft, or maybe it's because he reminds me a little bit of myself (wrt politics and history, mostly), but... I've seen a lot worse.

[trenton]

I think Somey's nailed our dear friend here. He missed being the center of attention the way he was when he was up for RFA. Why he hasn't run for RFB is beyond me, it's the obvious Next Step in the Ladder of WikiNarcissism.

I'm not sure I should say this, but I think Kelly may have misunderstood me - I meant that his user page layout, since it's not very attractive, tends to suggest that he isn't a narcissist.

I think somebody's been projecting, again

[Somey]

I think somebody's been projecting, again

Well, to be fair, I could have stated that much more clearly than I did, and the vast majority of WP admins who ask other users for a "review" of their astonishingly wonderful achievements admin activities really are fishing for compliments, if not demanding praise, however indirectly.

So it's an easy mistake to make, and besides, hardly anyone is completely non-narcissistic, and it's fairly clear that Kelly (while probably more irascible) is less narcissistic than the average Wikipedian. (To wit, there's relatively little demand for praise, not so much of a tendency to see events strictly in terms of how they affect her personally, doesn't automatically assume she's always doing the smart/right/best thing, and while she has a healthy ego, she does admit to some of her own past failings - true narcissists almost never do that, or if they do they'll claim that others were ultimately to blame, etc., etc.)