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Wikipedia - Can Teenagers Write An Encyclopedia?
Global Politician, NY - 12 minutes ago
The vast majority of Wikipedia contributors and editors are under the age of 25. Many of the administrators (senior editors) are in their teens. ...
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post Mon 23rd July 2007, 12:50am
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This is a really good article.

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Knowledge is not comprised of lists of facts, "facts", factoids, and rumors, the bread and butter of the Wikipedia. Real facts have to be verified, classified, and arranged within a historical and cultural context. Wikipedia articles read like laundry lists of information gleaned from secondary sources and invariably lack context and deep, true understanding of their subject matter.
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post Mon 23rd July 2007, 2:51am
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I submit that editors should be over age 21 and live within the jurisdiction of the United States. Admins should be at least 30 and pass a copyediting test.
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post Mon 23rd July 2007, 3:22am
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QUOTE(GoodFaith @ Sun 22nd July 2007, 10:51pm) *

I submit that editors should be over age 21 and live within the jurisdiction of the United States. Admins should be at least 30 and pass a copyediting test.

Hah! That would require proof of age, which would probably require proof of identity, and then Durova and Slim would explode. Won't work, but nice concept.
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post Mon 23rd July 2007, 3:28am
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QUOTE(GoodFaith @ Sun 22nd July 2007, 10:51pm) *

I submit that editors should be over age 21 and live within the jurisdiction of the United States. Admins should be at least 30 and pass a copyediting test.

It seems like an obvious thing to point out, but one of the main reasons Wikipedia is so popular is because it's so open to contributions from anyone. (Who'da thunk that a populist project might become popular?) Ditching that openness would make Wikipedia...Citizendium.

Particularly the age thing; aren't you guys awfully hard on people who are supposedly paid to edit? Blocking the mass of bored teenagers and college students would mean that the only people who would edit Wikipedia are truly devoted POV pushers, the unemployed, and people who are there getting paid. But, then again, nobody would edit anyway because it wouldn't be very popular!

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post Mon 23rd July 2007, 3:46am
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QUOTE(A Man In Black @ Sun 22nd July 2007, 8:28pm) *

It seems like an obvious thing to point out, but one of the main reasons Wikipedia is so popular is because it's so open to contributions from anyone.


This "anyone can edit" stuff just isn't true. Yes, Wikipedia does invite tens of thousands of vandals, which justifies the existence of admins.

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Ditching that openness would make Wikipedia...Citizendium.


Teenage boys are teenage boys. They're too young and they have no business backing orders to their elders. Let them go to MySpace, so I can ignore them.

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Particularly the age thing; aren't you guys awfully hard on people who are supposedly paid to edit? Blocking the mass of bored teenagers and college students would mean that the only people who would edit Wikipedia are truly devoted POV pushers, the unemployed, and people who are there getting paid.


We have POV pushers and hacks already. If the maturity level increased, it might win back those who are driven away by the current regime.

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But, then again, nobody would edit anyway because it wouldn't be very popular!


There's always eb.com. :rolleyes:
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QUOTE(GoodFaith @ Sun 22nd July 2007, 10:46pm) *

This "anyone can edit" stuff just isn't true. Yes, Wikipedia does invite tens of thousands of vandals, which justifies the existence of admins.

Which part? The claim that anyone can edit, or the claim that it's the source of Wikipedia's popularity?

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We have POV pushers and hacks already. If the maturity level increased, it might win back those who are driven away by the current regime.

Well, my comments on that point are a little misplaced because there wouldn't be any Wikipedia without the volunteers, and there wouldn't be any volunteers if the obstacles to entry were set too high. (Again, Citizendium.)
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Google News   Wikipedia - Can Teenagers Write An Encyclopedia? - Global Politician   Sun 22nd July 2007, 4:38pm
blissyu2   Wow. Perhaps the best article ever to have been p...   Sun 22nd July 2007, 6:27pm
LamontStormstar   The real problem with Wikipedia is what will happ...   Sun 22nd July 2007, 7:36pm
GoodFaith   The real problem with Wikipedia is what will happ...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 3:17am
Kato   This is a really good article.   Mon 23rd July 2007, 12:50am
GoodFaith   [quote name='GoodFaith' post='38280' date='Sun 22...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 4:55am
A Man In Black   Wikipedia's success is solely due to hitting ...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 6:23am
Somey   Barring some sort of Diabolic Collusion between Go...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 7:04am
A Man In Black   That's looking at it too simplistically, I...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 7:32am
Somey   I'm not saying that this openness is entirely ...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 7:50am
A Man In Black   OK... But just so we're clear on this, how ar...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 6:52pm
GoodFaith   Wikipedia's success is solely due to hitting ...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 8:20am
Somey   Particularly the age thing; aren't you guys aw...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 4:51am
guy   I submit that editors should be over age 21 and l...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 11:59am
LamontStormstar   I submit that editors should be over age 21 and l...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 1:12pm
A Man In Black   This is Wikipedia's primary limitation, somet...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 3:08am
GlassBeadGame   At it's best, it can only be an executive su...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 3:14am
blissyu2   I think that the way that Wikipedia is designed le...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 6:29am
Infoboy   I think that the way that Wikipedia is designed l...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 7:51pm
Kato   Fuck you. That would discount 90% of the best ed...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 9:18am
GoodFaith   That would discount 90% of the best editors, al...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 10:23pm
Cedric   That would discount 90% of the best editors, a...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 10:54pm
Disillusioned Lackey   Let me correct myself: I submit that admins shoul...   Tue 24th July 2007, 11:07am
blissyu2   I think that that gets to the crux of the issue. ...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 9:19am
A Man In Black   NPOV is one of the major fundamental problems wit...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 7:25pm
GoodFaith   Let me correct myself: I submit that admins should...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 11:33pm
GlassBeadGame   Let me correct myself: I submit that admins shoul...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 11:41pm
Poetlister   But "possessing a synoptic view of ostensibl...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 5:09pm
Skyrocket   You don't have to be an actual teenager to hav...   Mon 23rd July 2007, 8:54pm


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