Daniel Brandt blocked again (by JoshuaZ) Options

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...r:Daniel_Brandt

By JoshuaZ, no less!

Apologies if this topic has already been discussed or Mr. Brandt disapproves. I just noticed that Hivemind was back up and checked his account. JoshuaZ has reblocked him for having an outing site.

Oh dear.

Gee whiz, I didn't know it myself until I read this forum. Like I've told anyone who has ever asked, I'm really not interested in being a Wikipedia editor when I grow up.

Still, Joshua Zelinsky, age 23, Yale class of 2007, is an ass. And just to prove that I can bray along in harmony, in 24 hours I'll put SlimVirgin and Durova back up on hivemind. If S and D don't like this, they should unblock me and block JoshuaZ instead. Then maybe I'll reconsider (maybe). By the way, S, you're now linked on Cryptome, which should be good for about one or two thousand extra readers for those two links (scroll down and look under "Offsite").

Yikes! Another BADSITE. Better get busy, Joshua.

By the way, I think we need a discussion about Somey's redactions. Doesn't it seem embarrassing to have a stimulating news article on Wikipedia that mentions WR also, only to see that the article also mentions that WR has redacted certain crucial information?

And what was that item that Blissyu2 mentioned the other day about some sort of legal threat from Katefan0 way back when? I was never told about this, and as far as I know, Katefan0 never made any threats to anyone. I certainly never heard from her. If she made such a threat, I might be able to help turn it into an interesting situation. But if I'm not informed that it happened, then I can't do anything, obviously.

By the way, I think we need a discussion about Somey's redactions. Doesn't it seem embarrassing to have a stimulating news article on Wikipedia that mentions WR also, only to see that the article also mentions that WR has redacted certain crucial information?

I find that a bit embarassing too. I have suggested that we have a separate board for any "outing", so that we can reach a compromise. However, about 50% of people who use this board disagree with "outing" admins, so we need to go with a compromise.

And what was that item that Blissyu2 mentioned the other day about some sort of legal threat from Katefan0 way back when? I was never told about this, and as far as I know, Katefan0 never made any threats to anyone. I certainly never heard from her. If she made such a threat, I might be able to help turn it into an interesting situation. But if I'm not informed that it happened, then I can't do anything, obviously.

She made a request in relation to Amorrow's posts (I don't know if you ever noticed them). At one point Amorrow said pretty explicitly that he was going to stalk Katefan0, that he knew where she lived etc. This came on the heels of his writing a lot about "female Wikipedia users". She requested that we get rid of his material, and that we ban him. It didn't take a lot of discussion before we agreed to this one. I guess technically it wasn't a legal threat, although she did hint that she would have taken legal action if we didn't comply. In that case at least, I think she was in the right. Had we allowed Amorrow to keep doing what he was doing, I think that we would have been in some legal trouble.

By the way, I think we need a discussion about Somey's redactions. Doesn't it seem embarrassing to have a stimulating news article on Wikipedia that mentions WR also, only to see that the article also mentions that WR has redacted certain crucial information?

I'm confused. I thought that the redactions were part of a deal cut to start your AFD Daniel, with Slimvirgin driving, and receiving payoff in that her name was deleted. As such, I would have thought that you actually requested that they be made.

I'm confused. I thought that the redactions were part of a deal cut to start your AFD Daniel, with Slimvirgin driving, and receiving payoff in that her name was deleted. As such, I would have thought that you actually requested that they be made.

There were no deals with me. There were brief spurts of implicit good faith between me and SlimVirgin, and me and Durova, when it seemed to be in our mutual interest during the past few months. But now that S and D are all over the web, it seems silly to leave them off of hivemind. At this point it would make hivemind look like I'm trying to get the toothpaste back into the tube. It's too late for that, just as it's too late to hope that my bio will ever get deleted from all those Wikipedia scraper sites out there. I've now put those two back on hivemind. I also added recent hires Cary Bass, Sue Gardner, and Mike Godwin.

The redactions were Somey's project. He seemed to think that it would result in a more kindly attitude toward WR on the part of certain Wikipedians. He should know by now that if you present a gift to Wikipedians, they will beat you over the head with it, and then claim that CheckUser proves that first you threatened them with it, and later beat yourself over the head with it, by which time they weren't even in the building, according to CheckUser. There's no accountability, no reciprocity, and no possible way to deal with Wikipedia. You have to aim for Wikipedia's extinction (or at least the extinction of anonymous editing), because nothing else makes any sense.

My feeling at the time was that the names that Somey redacted were already available on other sites for any half-capable researcher, and Somey should do what he wants. I don't run this board — I'm just a member.

The redactions were Somey's project. He seemed to think that it would result in a more kindly attitude toward WR on the part of certain Wikipedians. He should know by now that if you present a gift to Wikipedians, they will beat you over the head with it, and then claim that CheckUser proves that first you threatened them with it, and later beat yourself over the head with it, by which time they weren't even in the building, according to CheckUser.