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JohnA
post Fri 27th July 2007, 11:03pm
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"International Humanitarian Law professor Ludwig Braeckeleer thinks so. In an article published yesterday in the Korean newspaper OhMyNews, he reveals a discovery he made while researching a story on the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103 over Scotland. It turns out that a Wikipedia administrator named SlimVirgin is actually Linda Mack, a woman who as a young graduate in the 1980s was hired by investigative reporter Pierre Salinger of ABC News to help with the investigation. Salinger later came to believe that Mack was actually working for Britain's MI5 on a mission to investigate the bombing and to infiltrate and monitor the news agency. Shortly after her Wikipedia identity was uncovered, many of her edits to articles related to the bombing were permanently removed from the database in an attempt to conceal her identity. This discovery comes only months after another Wikipedia admin was caught lying about his credentials to the press. What can Wikipedia do about those who would use it for their own purposes?"


Bring popcorn. This one could get interesting.
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post Sat 28th July 2007, 3:42am
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Selina kept a lot of information, but Selina sadly is on holiday at the moment. We must wait until she returns. And hopefully Selina hasn't wiped it in the meantime or forgotten where she put it.
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post Sat 28th July 2007, 5:11pm
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QUOTE(blissyu2 @ Fri 27th July 2007, 9:42pm) *

Selina kept a lot of information, but Selina sadly is on holiday at the moment. We must wait until she returns. And hopefully Selina hasn't wiped it in the meantime or forgotten where she put it.

You might be referring to http://wikipediareview.com/slimvirgin/

What we really need is Slim's complete "user contributions" listing as of about June 2006. That's when she began to get nervous about exposure. With a list like this, we could then compare it to the current history, and see if anything existed in June 2006 that no longer exists on her user contribution list.

I don't know if old dumps of Wikipedia can deliver complete histories. What I have in mind is forcing a dump of 5000 by changing the "500" in the URL to "5000" or more. (I know 5000 works, but I haven't tried anything more.) If you had two complete lists in plain text, you could run a "file compare" to spit out the differences, and then you could investigate the differences.

If anyone has an old dump of Wikipedia, they might be able to do this. It would be a lot of work, but it would also be quite interesting.
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post Sat 28th July 2007, 5:51pm
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sat 28th July 2007, 1:11pm) *
If anyone has an old dump of Wikipedia, they might be able to do this. It would be a lot of work, but it would also be quite interesting.
As it happens, I've been accumulating dumps over time, for just this purpose, but have yet to completely expand any of them (400 Gb is a lot of space). However that will all change on Monday, as I've made arrangements to get query access first to the 7/23/07 dump and then to several preceding it (going back to last summer to just before oversight was instituted), each captured soon after it was made.

I'll try to find some way to make a manageable subset of the data available so you folks can join the fun. Suggestions are welcome.
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QUOTE(WordBomb @ Sat 28th July 2007, 11:51am) *

I'll try to find some way to make a manageable subset of the data available so you folks can join the fun. Suggestions are welcome.

I think a complete list of Slim's user contributions as they appeared on Wikipedia as of June 2006, or as close to that as possible, is the most useful thing right now. This would start on November 5, 2004, the date of her very first edit (which is also, by the way, an edit that is no longer listed in her user contributions because it got memory-holed). A list like this can be compared to the current version of the same list, which we can get ourselves from Wikipedia.

The important thing is to develop a listing of differences between these two lists. Both lists will cover exactly the same time span. Any differences are immediately suspicious. Then we can order the differences by subject. Any politically-charged subjects are more important than animal liberation issues, for example.

This ordered list of differences will provide a starting point for further research. It will probably be a fairly small list — I'd be surprised if it was more than 100 items. Once the list is this manageable, pulling the actual diffs from the memory hole will give us some insight into the types of edits that Slim did not want scrutinized.
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JohnA   Slimvirgin gets slashdotted   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:03pm
GlassBeadGame   Link to slashdot[ Bring popcorn. This one could g...   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:14pm
Infoboy   ATTACK SITE AIR RAID! Wow.   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:15pm
GoodFaith   ATTACK SITE AIR RAID! Wow. File an RFC -NO...   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:18pm
Kato   Take a look at the comments. One WP apologist name...   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:17pm
JohnA   Take a look at the comments. One WP apologist nam...   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:26pm
GoodFaith   Here we see the full fruits of Slimvirgin's ...   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:50pm
CrazyGameOfPoker   Take a look at the comments. One WP apologist nam...   Sat 28th July 2007, 1:27am
JohnA   We have our first winner! B)   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:19pm
Infoboy   http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid...   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:25pm
Infoboy   How long until we see an article called [[SlimVirg...   Fri 27th July 2007, 11:29pm
Daniel Brandt   How long until we see an article called [[SlimVir...   Sat 28th July 2007, 12:19am
Kato   Either that, or sometime between 1994 and 2005 sh...   Sat 28th July 2007, 12:30am
dtobias   A new low for Slashdot (Score:2) by jwales (97533...   Sat 28th July 2007, 12:32am
GoodFaith   Why are these people so obsessed with Lyndon Larou...   Sat 28th July 2007, 12:43am
Kato   According to WP's own article on Slashdot (whi...   Sat 28th July 2007, 12:01am
GlassBeadGame   According to WP's own article on Slashdot (wh...   Sat 28th July 2007, 12:14am
BobbyBombastic   JUST A PARANOID ANNOUNCEMENT: Save everything tha...   Sat 28th July 2007, 1:03am
FNORD23   LOL ! I knew this was going to spread like wil...   Sat 28th July 2007, 1:29am
blissyu2   Is WR even mentioned there? I mean we're basi...   Sat 28th July 2007, 1:44am
Jonny Cache   Is WR even mentioned there? I mean we're bas...   Mon 30th July 2007, 2:51am
blissyu2   Is WR even mentioned there? I mean we're ba...   Mon 30th July 2007, 3:06am
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='39351' date='Mon ...   Mon 30th July 2007, 3:22am
Somey   All of the detailed legwork by DB and others on th...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:15am
LamontStormstar   I disagree. Simply removing the name(s) doesn...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:22am
Somey   Doesn't it violate GDFL? I suppose it might, i...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:37am
LamontStormstar   Doesn't it violate GDFL? I suppose it might, ...   Mon 30th July 2007, 6:44am
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='39357' date='Sun ...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:25am
Somey   Since I have myself recited the standard cautions ...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:56am
Daniel Brandt   I should also add that I was rather P.O.'d ab...   Mon 30th July 2007, 6:08am
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Somey' post='39370' date='Sun 29th J...   Mon 30th July 2007, 11:50am
Somey   Should I censor my references to "loopholes b...   Mon 30th July 2007, 4:21pm
Jonny Cache   Look, Jon, I'm certainly not trying to sugges...   Mon 30th July 2007, 4:54pm
Somey   What has happened is that "moderators" o...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:37pm
GlassBeadGame   Meanwhile, there's plenty of nasty and spec...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:23pm
Somey   Still, to the degree that redaction is a burden on...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:59pm
blissyu2   This is my post here. My first ever post to Slash...   Mon 30th July 2007, 12:33pm
everyking   Doesn't look like she's going to be able t...   Sat 28th July 2007, 2:03am
badlydrawnjeff   Doesn't look like she's going to be able ...   Sat 28th July 2007, 2:42am
Nathan   And now, I've blogged it too under the subject...   Sat 28th July 2007, 2:50am
Daniel Brandt   On the Wikipedia mailing list, they are arguing ab...   Sat 28th July 2007, 2:52am
LamontStormstar   I'll try to find some way to make a manageab...   Sat 28th July 2007, 6:14pm
Daniel Brandt   What about her two main meatpuppets (that some ha...   Sat 28th July 2007, 6:30pm
BobbyBombastic   Hmm, well wikien-l should be required reading here...   Sat 28th July 2007, 3:47am
blissyu2   Well, if it is Wikipedia Review's fault, then ...   Sat 28th July 2007, 3:56am
Daniel Brandt   Actually, there is a law in many countries that t...   Sat 28th July 2007, 4:31am
BobbyBombastic   We did put out an awful lot of information which ...   Sat 28th July 2007, 4:52am
Infoboy   92 Blogs and counting: http://blogsearch.google.c...   Sat 28th July 2007, 5:01am
Disillusioned Lackey   Regular Wikipedians are mocking her == Guess who...   Sat 28th July 2007, 5:24am
everyking   92 Blogs and counting: http://blogsearch.google....   Sat 28th July 2007, 5:28am
Nathan   92 Blogs and counting: [url=http://blogsearch.go...   Sat 28th July 2007, 7:27am
Infoboy   http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=256781...ed...   Sat 28th July 2007, 5:26am
Cedric   http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=256781...ed...   Sat 28th July 2007, 9:11am
WordBomb   http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=256781...ed...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:21am
Somey   I remember the MC5, led by guitarist Wayne Kramer,...   Sat 28th July 2007, 7:02am
Daniel Brandt   We all have to remember that this has occurred as...   Sat 28th July 2007, 12:56pm
blissyu2   It's still relatively slow going. It is yet t...   Sat 28th July 2007, 8:29am
WordBomb   This would explain why, though the world sleeps, a...   Sat 28th July 2007, 9:00am
Nathan   I couldn't resist. I probably could've sa...   Sat 28th July 2007, 9:18am
WordBomb   I couldn't resist. I probably could've s...   Sat 28th July 2007, 9:32am
JohnA   RE: Slimvirgin gets slashdotted   Sat 28th July 2007, 12:29pm
groody   Oh my word. SlimVirgin had an agenda to push? Bu...   Sat 28th July 2007, 9:24am
blissyu2   Perhaps someone will write a book on SlimVirgin on...   Sat 28th July 2007, 1:33pm
badlydrawnjeff   See, I feel like that's the most damning part ...   Sat 28th July 2007, 1:41pm
Daniel Brandt   I mean, there are far, far worse administrators a...   Sat 28th July 2007, 2:05pm
blissyu2   Here's some problems with SlimVirgin's use...   Sat 28th July 2007, 2:39pm
JohnA   Quite frankly, who gives a shit if Snowspinner is...   Sat 28th July 2007, 3:44pm
A Man In Black   Here's some problems with SlimVirgin's us...   Sat 28th July 2007, 7:42pm
LamontStormstar   [quote name='blissyu2' post='39114' date='Sat 28t...   Sat 28th July 2007, 8:42pm
guy   Outside of the accusations of cabalism and articl...   Sat 28th July 2007, 2:22pm
badlydrawnjeff   So, I mean, what's the point, then? That she ...   Sat 28th July 2007, 5:33pm
BobbyBombastic   now on digg 856 diggs right now ElinorD doesn...   Sat 28th July 2007, 10:53pm
LamontStormstar   [url=http://digg.com/tech_news/Are_Intelligence_A...   Sat 28th July 2007, 11:10pm
guy   Jayjg or somebody will claim something like sayin...   Sun 29th July 2007, 7:34am
Poetlister   Clearly Oleg (who is a mathematician) is in fact ...   Sun 29th July 2007, 10:18pm
LamontStormstar   Clearly Oleg (who is a mathematician) is in fact...   Mon 30th July 2007, 4:42am
blissyu2   now on digg 856 diggs right now ElinorD doesn...   Sun 29th July 2007, 7:57am
Infoboy   [quote name='BobbyBombastic' post='39186' date='S...   Sun 29th July 2007, 10:45pm
Infoboy   What we really, really need are the oversighted ed...   Sun 29th July 2007, 12:06am
blissyu2   What we really, really need are the oversighted e...   Sun 29th July 2007, 3:02am
everyking   Have any of the higher-ups been spotted acknowledg...   Sun 29th July 2007, 4:26am
LamontStormstar   Have any of the higher-ups been spotted acknowled...   Sun 29th July 2007, 4:55am
Nathan   Oh, no, of course not, Voldemort isn't alive...   Sun 29th July 2007, 5:10am
blissyu2   We've only redacted her real name, not the con...   Mon 30th July 2007, 3:52am
Jonny Cache   We've only redacted her real name, not the co...   Mon 30th July 2007, 3:57am
Somey   I think it was perfectly proper of for Ludwig Bra...   Mon 30th July 2007, 7:10am
LamontStormstar   I meant Wikipedia hiding several months of contri...   Mon 30th July 2007, 6:43pm
The Adversary   On another note: shouldn´t we do some more resear...   Mon 30th July 2007, 9:21am
blissyu2   On another note: shouldn´t we do some more resea...   Mon 30th July 2007, 10:45am
BobbyBombastic   here is something interesting http://lists.wiki...   Mon 30th July 2007, 4:30pm
Jonny Cache   To the best of my recollection, we are talking abo...   Mon 30th July 2007, 5:54pm
Somey   [i]To the best of my recollection, we are talking ...   Mon 30th July 2007, 6:12pm
Jonny Cache   Let me explain it this way. I am simply not going...   Mon 30th July 2007, 6:30pm
GlassBeadGame   Let me explain it this way. I am simply not goin...   Mon 30th July 2007, 6:36pm
Somey   I am simply not going to waste my time contributin...   Mon 30th July 2007, 7:01pm
Daniel Brandt   Two reprints of the Ohmynews piece appeared today ...   Mon 30th July 2007, 6:31pm
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