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post Tue 14th August 2007, 4:43pm
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The RfA is controversial because of comments Crockspot has made on conservative forums:

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I saw on your home Wikipedia userpage that you are a member of a group called Conservative Underground, so I went there. In my opinion I might think from reading there that it is maybe a disturbing site with maybe a lot of hate, against many groups but mostly Gays and Liberals. (maybe others don't think so) I looked at some of your posts. I fear that you maybe aren't right to be an administrator when you make (what I think) homophobic claims like : "Pretty much any dude with "bear" in his handle you can assume takes it up the ass." Link. Could you explain that claim a little more? Isn't that pretty homophobic? (IMO it is, maybe not others) And this one "I've noticed what seemed like an organized, or at least coincidentally coordinated, effort on Wikipedia to scrub any citations of Bill O'Reilly criticizing liberals. They pull every possible justification for it out of their asses, like "O'Reilly not a notable person", "spam links", "O'Reilly is not a reliable source, neither is Fox News.", etc. ad nauseum." Is that a canvassing? The O'Reilly Soros thing was one of your biggest battles (correct) Link Another thread called: "Fags and Firearms" that you posted in is full of homophobic hate, IMO (maybe not others opinions). Is that the sort of NPOV we need from an administrator? Will you keep posting homophobic hate (IMO) there if you become an administrator? Is your possible alleged homophobia the reason you have fighted so hard to keep claims of homosexuality from the Matt Drudge article? Thank you. Bmedley Sutler 05:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

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The comments are disgusting and the candidate owes an explanation to the community before being entrusted with the mop. Candidate admits membership in site where same userid made the offensive comments. Other such comments include:

* "New England fag boy"
* referring to an African American as a "porch monkey"
* "VVAW hippie rejects"
* "I vote JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS!"
* "the only way this could get any better is if ... came over here and showed us her tits."
* "french-canadian DUmmy types"
* "If anything, he is encouraging them to off themselves. You guys are starting to sound like a bunch of whiny DUmmies." (apparently approving of encouraging the suicide of GLBT people)

There are also references to deliberate trolling in order to get people banned on liberal forums,[50] but it's unclear who is admitting to what; certainly no disapproval. ←BenB4 10:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


Considering these comments, he is doing quite well at the moment: 71/29/3. A mitigating factor may be that these comments were not made on Wikipedia, rather on a completely distinct site.
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post Wed 15th August 2007, 1:41am
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The guy seems to have a hidden agenda, is a little off in the head (i.e. strange, in the scary, nonsensical, and hateful way), and wears a "mask" to hide all this while editing Wikipedia. Sounds like he'll fit right in!
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Alright, well at first I was thinking about keeping this private but since MONGO went ahead and plastered accusations on ANI of opposers canvassing I shall tell you that I received an e-mail from MONGO asking for support for Crockspot's RFA yesterday.

At first I was thrown off by this, a letter from MONGO himself? How does he know me? Stumped by this I went back and checked and it seems I voted to support MONGO in his original RFA in 2005. How naive I was back then! But then again I didn't know much about MONGO back then, in fact I didn't really know much about policy and Wikipedia itself though.

Anyway, I went ahead and voted support to see if my vote would be caught and struck as being from an "inactive user", but it seems it wasn't, big surprise. If MONGO just wasn't so confrontational things wouldn't blow up to such dramatic levels. I think MONGO means well or at least meant well at one point, but the numerous trolls and vandals have conspired to rob him of his good will and sanity. I daresay such is the fate of any person who becomes ingrained within the Wikipedia power structure.

MONGO, if you are reading this, just give up on Wikipedia. Long ago I tried to edit errors as they appeared, but there was always another error and another and another to eat up my time, and for what purpose? To get a free encyclopedia together for every person in the world? Call me disillusioned but I just don't see that vision coming to fruition ever with the current power struggles and conflict within Wikipedia and the various factions.

Oh and did poor MrGibblets really deserve a ban? I made the same mistake of linking to WR once, but I survived somehow, SlimVirgin simply gave me a warning.

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QUOTE(Derktar @ Tue 14th August 2007, 9:34pm) *

Alright, well at first I was thinking about keeping this private but since MONGO went ahead and plastered accusations on ANI of opposers canvassing I shall tell you that I received an e-mail from MONGO asking for support for Crockspot's RFA yesterday.

At first I was thrown off by this, a letter from MONGO himself? How does he know me? Stumped by this I went back and checked and it seems I voted to support MONGO in his original RFA in 2005. How naive I was back then! But then again I didn't know much about MONGO back then, in fact I didn't really know much about policy and Wikipedia itself though.

Anyway, I went ahead and voted support to see if my vote would be caught and struck as being from an "inactive user", but it seems it wasn't, big surprise. If MONGO just wasn't so confrontational things wouldn't blow up to such dramatic levels. I think MONGO means well or at least meant well at one point, but the numerous trolls and vandals have conspired to rob him of his good will and sanity. I daresay such is the fate of any person who becomes ingrained within the Wikipedia power structure.

MONGO, if you are reading this, just give up on Wikipedia. Long ago I tried to edit errors as they appeared, but there was always another error and another and another to eat up my time, and for what purpose? To get a free encyclopedia together for every person in the world? Call me disillusioned but I just don't see that vision coming to fruition ever with the current power struggles and conflict within Wikipedia and the various factions.

Oh and did poor MrGibblets really deserve a ban? I made the same mistake of linking to WR once, but I survived somehow, SlimVirgin simply gave me a warning.


Yeah, they pretty much gave MrGibblets the ax, so much for respect and not biting the newbie. They chopped his head off in quick thanksgiven fashion. I guess the wikidicky admin must preserve the purity of the wikipeida and protect the young from the web site (which must not be named)

Freedom and openness from one side of the mouth and censorship and cyberdeth from the other.

The hypocrisy is so blatant that it stinks like old, dead carp.
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SenseMaker   Crockspot RfA   Tue 14th August 2007, 4:43pm
Infoboy   I think external actions should be a valid RFA mat...   Tue 14th August 2007, 4:54pm
Nathan   *sighs* Someone with that kind of bias should not ...   Tue 14th August 2007, 7:50pm
D.A.F.   *sighs* Someone with that kind of bias should not...   Tue 14th August 2007, 10:10pm
Infoboy   Wikipedians are so painfully politically correct t...   Tue 14th August 2007, 9:54pm
Nathan   I can't find fault in that logic, Xidaf.   Tue 14th August 2007, 10:18pm
Kato   Comment by Cyde Cyde, you are not "above r...   Tue 14th August 2007, 10:29pm
Infoboy   Comment by Cyde Cyde, you are not "above ...   Tue 14th August 2007, 10:39pm
GlassBeadGame   Comment by Cyde Cyde, you are not "above ...   Tue 14th August 2007, 10:52pm
Infoboy   [quote name='Kato' post='42905' date='Tue 14th Au...   Tue 14th August 2007, 10:57pm
Cedric   Now standing at 71/37/9. If the RfA process has a...   Tue 14th August 2007, 11:10pm
Infoboy   Now standing at 71/37/9. If the RfA process has ...   Tue 14th August 2007, 11:13pm
Infoboy   They're going berserk, now. Is this or is this...   Tue 14th August 2007, 11:24pm
Infoboy   RFA to ANI spillover, and MONGO getting indignant ...   Tue 14th August 2007, 11:53pm
Derktar   RFA to ANI spillover, and MONGO getting indignant...   Wed 15th August 2007, 12:05am
JoseClutch   RFA to ANI spillover, and MONGO getting indignant...   Wed 15th August 2007, 12:48am
D.A.F.   I don't think his comment was completly nonese...   Wed 15th August 2007, 1:25am
JoseClutch   And now MrGiblets, who's third edit was to sup...   Wed 15th August 2007, 1:30am
D.A.F.   I check this, much like I have checked the other s...   Wed 15th August 2007, 1:39am
D.A.F.   Is this really a surprise? MANGO is not alone canv...   Wed 15th August 2007, 3:05am
Derktar   Is this really a surprise? MANGO is not alone can...   Wed 15th August 2007, 3:08am
Jonny Cache   It's not surprising but the sheer audacity of...   Wed 15th August 2007, 3:24am
Joseph100   It's not surprising but the sheer audacity o...   Wed 15th August 2007, 3:28am
Derktar   [quote name='Derktar' post='42941' date='Tue 14t...   Wed 15th August 2007, 3:33am
Jonny Cache   Name Redacted? Confound it! Sorry, only on...   Wed 15th August 2007, 3:42am
Infoboy   Alright, well at first I was thinking about keepi...   Wed 15th August 2007, 4:16am
FNORD23   [quote name='Derktar' post='42938' date='Tue 14th...   Wed 15th August 2007, 5:15am
Derktar   [quote name='Derktar' post='42938' date='Tue 14t...   Wed 15th August 2007, 9:29pm
Infoboy   [quote name='FNORD23' post='42956' date='Tue 14th...   Wed 15th August 2007, 9:42pm
Derktar   Willing to have it reposted here? http://img483....   Wed 15th August 2007, 10:05pm
FNORD23   Willing to have it reposted here? http://img483...   Thu 16th August 2007, 12:34am
Derktar   Well I'm hesitant to give out his e-mail addre...   Thu 16th August 2007, 12:37am
GlassBeadGame   Well I'm hesitant to give out his e-mail addr...   Thu 16th August 2007, 12:40am
Derktar   Well I'm hesitant to give out his e-mail add...   Thu 16th August 2007, 12:43am
Infoboy   Well I'm hesitant to give out his e-mail addr...   Thu 16th August 2007, 3:10am
dtobias   mongomontana at yahoo.com or montanamongo at yaho...   Thu 16th August 2007, 3:22am
D.A.F.   [quote name='Derktar' post='43149' date='Wed 15th...   Thu 16th August 2007, 12:45am
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='FNORD23' post='43180' date='Wed 15th...   Thu 16th August 2007, 12:51am
D.A.F.   [quote name='FNORD23' post='43180' date='Wed 15t...   Thu 16th August 2007, 1:06am
Infoboy   Someone called for MONGO civility probation, and i...   Wed 15th August 2007, 6:02am
LamontStormstar   Someone called for MONGO civility probation, and ...   Wed 15th August 2007, 6:21am
Infoboy   And now MONGO has been given final warning by Viri...   Wed 15th August 2007, 6:40am
Infoboy   And we have MONGO breakdown: http://en.wikipedia....   Wed 15th August 2007, 6:51am
Viridae   And now MONGO has been given final warning by Vir...   Wed 15th August 2007, 11:24am
Infoboy   I'm a he. Sorry, sir. :(   Wed 15th August 2007, 12:57pm
GlassBeadGame   I always thought that the WP anti-canvassing posit...   Wed 15th August 2007, 2:53pm
Infoboy   I always thought that the WP anti-canvassing posi...   Wed 15th August 2007, 3:17pm
Cedric   Mongo and his elk are a relatively minor sub-caba...   Wed 15th August 2007, 10:17pm
Kato   [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='43027' date='We...   Wed 15th August 2007, 10:21pm
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='43027' date='W...   Wed 15th August 2007, 10:33pm
Infoboy   We have complaints about Wikipedia Review now on t...   Wed 15th August 2007, 2:59pm
Infoboy   And MONGO is just utterly bent. Now [b]HE is issui...   Wed 15th August 2007, 3:56pm
Infoboy   Lovely, Tim Beatty (Tbeatty) supports on-wiki and ...   Wed 15th August 2007, 5:07pm
SenseMaker   Lovely, Tim Beatty (Tbeatty) supports on-wiki and...   Wed 15th August 2007, 5:51pm
JoseClutch   [quote name='Infoboy' post='43052' date='Wed 15th...   Wed 15th August 2007, 6:58pm
D.A.F.   I concur with you, the link to this thread was unn...   Wed 15th August 2007, 6:10pm
Infoboy   I concur with you, the link to this thread was un...   Wed 15th August 2007, 6:19pm
dtobias   How come MONGO gets to suppress "attack site ...   Wed 15th August 2007, 6:36pm
Infoboy   Now a user is blocked for POSSIBLE off-wiki activi...   Wed 15th August 2007, 6:38pm
blissyu2   This was interesting. SlimVirgin, as we know, has...   Wed 15th August 2007, 7:03pm
Infoboy   I don't believe Smedly or whoever had revealed...   Wed 15th August 2007, 7:15pm
blissyu2   I'll quote that for easier reading:   Wed 15th August 2007, 10:18pm
blissyu2   One interesting thing is that there is a person ca...   Wed 15th August 2007, 10:37pm
SqueakBox   One interesting thing is that there is a person c...   Thu 16th August 2007, 1:52am
Joseph100   One interesting thing is that there is a person ...   Thu 16th August 2007, 2:33am
D.A.F.   More reason to distroy, vandalize and discredit w...   Thu 16th August 2007, 2:50am
Joseph100   More reason to distroy, vandalize and discredit ...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:41am
D.A.F.   You don't destroy a building fool of people. ...   Thu 16th August 2007, 6:00am
blissyu2   Nah, you shouldn't give out his e-mail address...   Thu 16th August 2007, 12:50am
Derktar   Nah, you shouldn't give out his e-mail addres...   Thu 16th August 2007, 12:54am
BobbyBombastic   Derktar, you've gone so far as to let the emai...   Thu 16th August 2007, 1:40am
Nathan   Vengeance and hate can often destroy a person from...   Thu 16th August 2007, 2:56am
D.A.F.   He denies it's him in his talkpage: http://en....   Thu 16th August 2007, 3:03am
Infoboy   Apparently Crockspot's admitted racism is ou...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:45am
FNORD23   I agree with both these points, and an am worr...   Thu 16th August 2007, 6:55am
Somey   I'm tellin' ya, I take one day off, and lo...   Thu 16th August 2007, 8:24am
LamontStormstar   I'm tellin' ya, I take one day off, and l...   Thu 16th August 2007, 9:36am
Somey   After MONGO gets banned, let's invite him here...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:36pm
Viridae   Frankly I don't care what MrGibblets is accuse...   Thu 16th August 2007, 10:04am
D.A.F.   Frankly I don't care what MrGibblets is accus...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:21pm
blissyu2   They are saying that Mr Gibblets = JoeHazelton. I...   Thu 16th August 2007, 10:22am
Infoboy   78/83/11 Ending in just under two hours. Good rid...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:05pm
Nathan   If they can be taught, yes. If they are SlimVirgin...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:07pm
Infoboy   If they can be taught, yes. If they are SlimVirgi...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:23pm
blissyu2   It is an interesting question: should your behavio...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:28pm
GlassBeadGame   It is an interesting question: should your behavi...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:35pm
blissyu2   Actually, I think that MONGO would fit in. Indeed...   Thu 16th August 2007, 5:58pm
Infoboy   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:RFA_Cro...y_inf...   Thu 16th August 2007, 6:02pm
blissyu2   Good image. Probably want to copy it somewhere th...   Thu 16th August 2007, 6:09pm
FNORD23   For those not familiar with racist American slan...   Thu 16th August 2007, 6:40pm
Somey   He's dumber than I thought if he believes anyb...   Thu 16th August 2007, 7:40pm
GlassBeadGame   Good image. Probably want to copy it somewhere t...   Thu 16th August 2007, 6:49pm
blissyu2   I feel sorry for MONGO. For all that is said abou...   Thu 16th August 2007, 7:29pm
D.A.F.   I feel sorry for MONGO. For all that is said abo...   Thu 16th August 2007, 7:53pm
The Joy   And now, a MONGO Witch Hunt. Brought to you by......   Fri 17th August 2007, 1:30am
D.A.F.   And now, a MONGO Witch Hunt. Brought to you by.....   Fri 17th August 2007, 1:46am
GlassBeadGame   And now, a MONGO Witch Hunt. Brought to you by.....   Fri 17th August 2007, 2:04am
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