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post Thu 23rd August 2007, 7:51am
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So, I sat down and read the entire New Yorker article about Wikipedia, including the editor's note about Essjay, i.e., Ryan Jordan, the man-child who falsified his resume and was praised for it by Jimmy Wales. In the aftermath, The New York Times wrote about the whole thing, which wound up embarrassing Wales and Wikipedia enough to cut Jordan loose.

So far, so good, but then I noticed something in the NYT piece. An administrator identified as WJBscribe is quoted rising to the young liar's defense thusly:

Just wanted to express my 100 percent support for everything you do around here. I think you were totally entitled to protect your identity. Don't let all the fuss get you down!"

Folks, this is the same WJBscribe who has intervened to censor verified, public-record information from the Matt Sanchez article that I discussed previously in the Articles section of this site. He has also banned me from Wikipedia. I guess it's par for the course, but then maybe it's par for the course on this website is to point out that Wikipedia has an active administrator who removes facts and defends fabricators.

No wonder the thing is going down in flames. I don't know if anyone saw the latest Colbert segment on Wikipedia broadcast on August 22, but I'd say Wikipedia is rapidly turning into the punch line of a joke. It's their own fault. Last spring, they got a clear warning to turn things around, but their arrogance and irresponsibility prevented them from doing anything. Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

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post Thu 23rd August 2007, 6:23pm
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"Timing and context are important here"?

No, not here. WJBscribe expressed his support after Ryan Jordan's fraud had been exposed. WJBscribe is still an administrator at Wikipedia, and he has used his power to keep verified, public-record fact out of an article. That's corruption, plain and simple. I realize this might be too much blunt truth for Wikipedians and their defenders who have a tangential relationship with the truth, but so be it.
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post Sat 25th August 2007, 2:38am
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QUOTE(Pwok @ Thu 23rd August 2007, 2:23pm) *

No, not here. WJBscribe expressed his support after Ryan Jordan's fraud had been exposed. WJBscribe is still an administrator at Wikipedia, and he has used his power to keep verified, public-record fact out of an article. That's corruption, plain and simple. I realize this might be too much blunt truth for Wikipedians and their defenders who have a tangential relationship with the truth, but so be it.


This is par for the course. Look at how Jayg and his Snippies have kept verified, public-record facts out of the various Circumcision articles and terrorized anyone stupid enough to oppose them. It's not news when a Wikipedia admin proves to be corrupt; it's news when even one proves to be honest and yet survives.

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post Sat 25th August 2007, 2:59am
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QUOTE(alienus @ Fri 24th August 2007, 7:38pm) *

QUOTE(Pwok @ Thu 23rd August 2007, 2:23pm) *

No, not here. WJBscribe expressed his support after Ryan Jordan's fraud had been exposed. WJBscribe is still an administrator at Wikipedia, and he has used his power to keep verified, public-record fact out of an article. That's corruption, plain and simple. I realize this might be too much blunt truth for Wikipedians and their defenders who have a tangential relationship with the truth, but so be it.


This is par for the course. Look at how Jayg and his Snippies have kept verified, public-record facts out of the various Circumcision articles and terrorized anyone stupid enough to oppose them. It's not news when a Wikipedia admin proves to be corrupt; it's news when even one proves to be honest and yet survives.

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I've seen one thing Jayjg has done for years is to just go and fish in checkuser and then claim everyone on the same ISP are all socks and ban them.

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post Sat 25th August 2007, 6:14am
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QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Sat 25th August 2007, 1:29pm) *

I've seen one thing Jayjg has done for years is to just go and fish in checkuser and then claim everyone on the same ISP are all socks and ban them.


Heh. That's beautiful. One of the best posts I've seen for ages. It'd be great if it was backed up with a link though. Can anyone find a link to an example of this kind of thing?

Perhaps Ruylong banning an entire ISP in India with 1000s of users just because he thought that it might be used by one user who he didn't like.
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Pwok   Administrator WJBscribe   Thu 23rd August 2007, 7:51am
No one of consequence   Timing and context are important here. For a coup...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 4:42pm
Pwok   "Timing and context are important here"?...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 6:23pm
alienus   I've seen one thing Jayjg has done for years ...   Sat 25th August 2007, 8:52am
blissyu2   Yes, but this is the same WJBscribe who banned Mal...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 6:28pm
LamontStormstar   Yes, but this is the same WJBscribe who banned Ma...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 9:05pm
Pwok   This is not a question of someone being "all ...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 6:50pm
blissyu2   Well, I think you'll find that a lot of people...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 8:06pm
Pwok   Well, I think you'll find that a lot of people...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 8:23pm
blissyu2   Yes, well, perhaps a more pertinent point to make ...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 8:26pm
badlydrawnjeff   Yes, well, perhaps a more pertinent point to make...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 8:41pm
Nathan   Beyond that, even if he [i]didn't explicitly ...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 9:43pm
Pwok   Yes, see User:Essjay/Letter. Yup, right down the m...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 9:47pm
Pwok   Wow, you simply don't want to grasp the issue,...   Thu 23rd August 2007, 8:35pm
alienus   Fuck Wikipedia I couldn't have said it better...   Sat 25th August 2007, 3:26am
LamontStormstar   Although Essjay had a fake bio and all... Was he ...   Fri 24th August 2007, 7:23am
blissyu2   Although Essjay had a fake bio and all... Was he...   Fri 24th August 2007, 7:29am
LamontStormstar   3) At one point he protected my user talk page fo...   Fri 24th August 2007, 8:30am
everyking   He may have done more, I don't know. We didn...   Fri 24th August 2007, 8:34am
LamontStormstar   He may have done more, I don't know. We did...   Fri 24th August 2007, 8:40am
Pwok   Although Essjay had a fake bio and all... Was he...   Fri 24th August 2007, 8:15am
LamontStormstar   "I've analyized their writing style...   Sat 25th August 2007, 6:01am


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