ColScott and BLP, (was: Colscott Says Hola) Options

[jdrand]

What was the HIGHINBC personal information released, the Gay Nigger Association of America trolls, and the controversial thing that supposedly got you banned.

[No one of consequence]

YOU THINK IT IS OKAY FOR A KID TO harass people on line without knowing who they are?

No. There are ways of dealing with this other than publicizing and ridiculing a 15-year old. I'm sorry you didn't get the help you wanted.

I SHOULD make that documentary and show up at his freaking house with cameras and let his friends know what he does...On Wikipedia which has already been exposed for having an organized pedophile underground?

Um, right. You've really enhanced your credibility with me here.

[SqueakBox]

... then went to a stoned editor who now has been driven from the project. His name was HIGHINBC and then H. He complained that I was not nice to him. I was essentially asked to kiss HIGH's ass. No thank you. ColScott got banned.

Welcome, ColScott!

As has been pointed out, User:HighInBC/User:H has returned to Wikipedia. Many know his new identity, and would be happy to provide it if need be. I only wish you had turned your resources on SlimVirgin, a much more formidable foe. Ridding Wikipedia of her would be a great service.

It wasnt Col Scott who drove H away from the site. While the latter has returned he doesnt do the cannabis articles any more, probably because that would give him away but he is still an admin.

[No one of consequence]

... then went to a stoned editor who now has been driven from the project. His name was HIGHINBC and then H. He complained that I was not nice to him. I was essentially asked to kiss HIGH's ass. No thank you. ColScott got banned.

Welcome, ColScott!

As has been pointed out, User:HighInBC/User:H has returned to Wikipedia. Many know his new identity, and would be happy to provide it if need be. I only wish you had turned your resources on SlimVirgin, a much more formidable foe. Ridding Wikipedia of her would be a great service.

It wasnt Col Scott who drove H away from the site. While the latter has returned he doesnt do the cannabis articles any more, probably because that would give him away but he is still an admin.

I believe that ColScott published identifying information about HighinBC on his blog which the GNAA used to troll and harrass HighinBC. So it wasn't a direct assault but it was enabling.

[SqueakBox]

I've been following this for some time and wanted to join you. Thanks for the invite.
...
In the meantime we've commissioned a screenplay called TRUTHSEEKER01. It is about an online encyclopedia called MYPEDIA which publishes both true and false information in order to drive people to suicide and/or murder. It's a horror film. The villain is the head of MYPEDIA a character called Timster. And one of the three heroes is from MYPEDIA ALERT.

http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread.php?t=21925

Cheers!

A clarifier. The article was then re-trimmed back to a very basic non-intrusive stub, removing private information, and then subject to an afd that miserably faield (we know how many wikipedians hate any deletion and because of Natural Born Killers and Transformers Don was considered notable). Now this 15 year old kid, known as Saturday at wikipedia, is trying to remove the official DM site from the external links. This is another person who doesnt want an article on themselves and I have to say I am horrified at the Warner Brothers tale, reputation is highly important in business and wikipedia shoudl go out of its way to [proptect the reputation of each and every one of its living subjects.

[Jonny Cache]

I believe that ColScott published identifying information about HighinBC on his blog which the GNAA used to troll and harrass HighinBC. So it wasn't a direct assault but it was enabling.

My Friend, Are You A Troll Enabler ?

Go to TrollEnabler.Org for the meeting times and places of your local support group.

I am Jonny C.

This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Fri 31st August 2007, 2:42am

[SqueakBox]

I believe that ColScott published identifying information about HighinBC on his blog which the GNAA used to troll and harrass HighinBC. So it wasn't a direct assault but it was enabling.

My Friend, Are You A Troll Enabler ?

Go to TrollEnabler.Org for the meeting times and places of your local support group.

I am Jonny C.

No I didnt know that interesting fact. More reason than ever to delete the Murphy article IMO. His official site is now the subject of a BADSITES debate, with Dan Tobias chipping in and restoring the official site, which doesnt lead to any attack page. I wonder if it was Murphy or one of his band of fans who actually discovered the information (not difficult given the info on H's user page at the time), I imagine the latter and that they could eb much scarier to be on the wrong side of than Murphy oneself. .

[Jonny Cache]

SqueakBox,

The thing that people are finding out — as always the hard way, and very often to their considerable dismay — is that the Public Web Files that Wikipediots keep on living persons under the Xtremely euphemistic name of "Biographies" are inherently unstable and can blow up at any time.

Truly public persons often subscribe to "clipping services" that in the old days literally clipped items out of print publications that happened to mention the person in question. But who the heck but a highly-paid super-professional cloutbearer, rolling in the dough rock*star celebrity, independently wealthy blueblood, or member of the Dutch Royal Family could afford to hire someone to monitor their WP:BLP 24/7 and 365¼ days a year?

That is why people object to being "noted" by this gang of phreako kids that call themselves "encyclopedists". They should all stick to their tricyclopedals until they grow up.

Jonny

This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Fri 31st August 2007, 2:56pm

[blissyu2]

Actually this is rather controversial for a first post. I remember my first post on WR, also about me (very narcissistic, as I suppose many people are), but it wasn't as controversial as all of this. I had people saying I deserved what I got, and others say I didn't, and that was the end of that. This is perhaps the most controversial first post ever.

Perhaps we need to sit back and look at this some other time. Perhaps it should be in editors forum. And perhaps Col Scott should write on other topics in here for a while.

[everyking]

Murphy is a notable person, at least by Wikipedia's definition; he produces major films. At the same time, Murphy has a legitimate concern about the editing of his article. Why not just hard protect the article and allow editing to be done only by admins implementing the consensus of users discussing the subject on the talk page (including Murphy, presuming he wants a say)? That's a possible solution, it seems to me.

[blissyu2]

From what he said, he has a decent legal case. He should have the finances to be able to do it too. And there doesn't seem to be a major issue with international law or anything being hidden. So why not sue? Is it so hard to sue?

[ColScott]

From what he said, he has a decent legal case. He should have the finances to be able to do it too. And there doesn't seem to be a major issue with international law or anything being hidden. So why not sue? Is it so hard to sue?

Two points here neither related---

1- I have been involved in lawsuits before. I never have sued but there is always some asshole ready to claim shit. Natural Born Killers made people kill other people. Uh Huh. The director of Apt Pupil was some deranged homosexual. Etc etc. Some of them are listed on the main page of my site. They always suck. I won them ALL. But didn't win anything. The saying is that only the lawyers win and I believe that. Additionally, Hollywood hates the litigious. Even though I would be suing non Hollywood people who are clearly assholes committing crimes, I would be the guy suing. Finally, lawsuits eat time. Lots of it. Sinkhole of time. I'm busy- one big film came out in June, another comes out in a week and a third is editing. I should not HAVE to sue these punks.

2- Squeakbox- what the hell are you doing here? I can't figure you out. You seem smart and logical on WP. Very kind. But you also seem to be very much IN the cult as well. Didn't know you were allowed here if a cultist. You have been nice to me and my socks (sorry about the one make the Rasta Hilarious crack). I don't get it- my head hurts.

[blissyu2]

Wait on, you directed Natural Born Killers? You'd be quite a big name. Wow, we have a big name Hollywood director writing on Wikipedia Review! Wow. Or were you the writer or something else?

I have never believed any of the nonsense about films influencing decisions, that's just stupid. People who want to do those things watch movies and listen to music to try to inspire them, but without the movies and music (etc) they'd just find something else to inspire them. They get the actual inspirations from their life experiences and their own beliefs, not from the films and music.

Lawsuits are a pain in the butt. I am having to sue one of my old landlords and its a real serious hassle. So we are just exchanging legal threats, and trying to sort something out. In the real world, outside of Wikipedia-land, that's how it usually works. Its just that in Wikipedia-land, legal threats are suddenly bad, and they encourage people breaking the law ahead of people who are victimised. I am seriously opposed to their NLT rule. They shouldn't ban people for legal threats - they should ban people for failing to adequately respond to legal threats. Its just wrong on so many levels that they do that. They then make it difficult to sue people, and difficult to continue with legal action, because they put obstacles in the way, and serve to protect people who are breaking the law. Just the same, you seriously should sue them. Really. Its a strong case. Combine with Daniel Brandt, and do it together, as your cases are similar. Actually go to court. Do it. We'll all help you.

As for Squeakbox, well, just remember that not everyone who comes to Wikipedia Review is a critic. Squeakbox seems to be the enemy of Jonny Cache, and that seems to be his main reason to be here. I could be wrong of course.

Anyone can come here, its just that topics will be directed in a certain way.

[Kato]

Just to clarify something.

This is our 15 year old editor, Saturday. Writing about Don Murphy, award winning film producer.

And I assert that I am not stocking him, and that he is being his usual arrogant self. He will continue to say I am stalking him because it gives him an excuse to slam me at every opportunity, even though I am not. When will people realise that this man is a fucking jerk who will say shit about anyone, that he is just lying and trying to make me look bad. [[User:Saturday]]

And Jimbo's "community" did nothing. Still do nothing.

[ColScott]

Just to clarify something.

This is our 15 year old editor, Saturday. Writing about Don Murphy, award winning film producer.

And I assert that I am not stocking him, and that he is being his usual arrogant self. He will continue to say I am stalking him because it gives him an excuse to slam me at every opportunity, even though I am not. When will people realise that this man is a fucking jerk who will say shit about anyone, that he is just lying and trying to make me look bad. [[User:Saturday]]

And Jimbo's "community" did nothing. Still do nothing.

the sad thing is that the guy still emails my hotmail account almots daily and if you look at his contribs he continues the obsession- editing only things about me- and did not heed the very good advice he was given.

[Jonny Cache]

Some kind o weird, betta-have-been-accidental deletion happened to the following post —

Squeakbox — what the hell are you doing here? I can't figure you out. You seem smart and logical on WP. Very kind. But you also seem to be very much IN the cult as well. Didn't know you were allowed here if a cultist. You have been nice to me and my socks (sorry about the one make the Rasta Hilarious crack). I don't get it — my head hurts.

The motivation of characters like Squeakbox is actually a key question in the puzzle of What Makes Jimmy Run — in other words, what keeps Wikipedia going in spite of everything so far.

I did not run into Squeakbox myself in the year I was there, but I did know many characters like him. They are, left to themselves, very nice people. They will sit and chat with you on your talk page, very simpatico-like, when you've been blocked from editing anywhere else. You might say they are nice to a fault, since their compelling need for camaraderie and for everyone to "just get along" will lead them to stab you in the back when you least expect it — well, least expect it the first couple of times — and if not that, then at least to stand by in silence when others take you down, or else just to split, as they "really hate to see" that kind of thing happen, so they just close their eyes when it does.

But Jimbo's Con Job absolutely depends on these kinds of characters — among a cast of many others, for instance, Warriors of the Saturday variety — so everything is done to keep them in the system, at least, for now.

Jonny

This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Fri 31st August 2007, 3:30pm

[Emperor]

Just to clarify something.

This is our 15 year old editor, Saturday. Writing about Don Murphy, award winning film producer.

A quick trip to IMDB will tell you that Don Murphy is no lightweight.

By the way, if you are Mr. Murphy, I've got this great screenplay to show you and I can bring you a hundred 15-year-olds to smack around if it helps. (I'll just drive through the mall with a net.)

[BobbyBombastic]

I believe that ColScott published identifying information about HighinBC on his blog which the GNAA used to troll and harrass HighinBC. So it wasn't a direct assault but it was enabling.

Troll enabling...I am thinking about collecting the more dramatic and nonsensical phrases that are used by the Wikipedia faithful, and this was a very good contribution. Thanks.

Welcome to the forum ColScott! I'll leave it to you to figure out Squeakbox, I've had trouble with that myself. There are a few people here that do not agree with a lot of what we say and some others that damn our very existence! They are very much Wikipedia cult members. You may find that your philosophy of not banning is very similar to how this board is ran. It's very easy to call them on most of their bullshit anyway, so it is useful that they come here with their arguments. You will find that WR is, in general, liberal in the way of allowing people to disagree, definitely more so than Wikipedia. That is one of WR's strengths.

So again, welcome, and I am very happy you joined WR. Don't let some of the Wikipedia brainwashed from Jonestown Walestown here antagonize you, they end up sticking their foot in their mouth in the end. It seems like it's predestined!

[blissyu2]

Oh I just gave a movie review for transformers. 5 1/2 out of 10 I gave it. Was okay, too much CGI, way too complicated, needed a few sex scenes to add to the movie. A sequel could be really good though. I tend to be a harsh rater though, that was one of the highest ratings I've given for a while (I gave Simpsons 3). I haven't seen any of the others on the IMDB list.

I have written my own novel, which is just begging to be made in to a movie. It's technically science fiction, but not really. More like Star Wars (if you think Star Wars is science fiction, then so is my novel), but its not like Star Wars at all other than genre. Your stereotypical good vs evil, right and wrong, good triumphs over evil, with lots of plot twists, but typical fairytale in terms of goodness, and gets pretty deep in terms of message, with many medieval elements, magic, high tech stuff and general all-round good stuff. Of course, I haven't actually published it yet. But if you want to see it, I can send it to you and see if you want to work with it. Seriously, I thought it'd be a best seller. Not joking here. I think its the best story ever told, very different in terms of originality, but not so far different as to confuse people. Certainly kicks Harry Potter's butt.

But hey I'm dreaming here. I've been trying to finish writing it for the past 15 years, and nobody is going to take something that I can't decide on the finer points of, let alone one that hasn't even been published. Ah well.

Sorry, was day dreaming there.

So yeah, what were we talking about? 15 year old boys? Well, in my story, when they start off, they are 12, although by the end they are 23. You could play them with 15 year old actors if you liked, maybe even the whole way through if you really wanted, just change how they look as they "age". And my target audience was meant to be teens.

Oh shit can we get back on track here? Anyone? Nup I'm gone.

[Emperor]

Oh shit can we get back on track here? Anyone? Nup I'm gone.

Are you ok? Maybe you should go sleep it off.