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> Norms Of Research Methodology (NORM's), You Say You're A Professional What ???
Jonny Cache
post Tue 4th September 2007, 2:52pm
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The title may be a whitewash, but (groan) at least the article is an acknowledgement that something unprofessional did happen, unlike the quickly deleted subpages.


"Unprofessional?" Isn't the whole point of Wikipedia to be unprofessional? To be a professional, you need the following:
  1. Advanced training and/or education
  2. An ethics code separate from that of the enterprise you associate with
  3. Substantial discretion over your job
None of these are present at Wikipedia. To expect "professionalism" from them is to misunderstand what a professional is.


I'm not sure this is a good description of professionalism, and the only point of these that Wikipedians *might* not meet is the first one. All of them apply their own ethic code, and as an undirected volunteer you have substantial discretion over your job. Editors aren't forced to make any edits, and admins aren't forced to take any actions. We all have discretion. We all have our own ethics code, although there are some rules, I've never had a job without rules. And while many Wikipedians have little or no formal training, there are lots of Wikipedias with extensive formal training. Check out the math articles, it's rife with genuine Ph.D.s (which is evident just from the writing), and being mostly "nerds", many have at leave reasonable training (bachelors or what have you).

We're not professional because we don't get paid. I meet all three of those points, (more or less - I'm in the middle of a Ph.D. so how "advanced" my education is can be debated — I have a four year honours degree in science, you may not consider that "advanced"), but I'm not a professional, I edit Wikipedia as a hobby.


In ordinary usage, being a professional means you get paid, as in professional hitman. Sorry, gals, hitmen as a rule are a hidebound traditional sexist bunch — and there's a thick, even •proof glass ceiling among hit professors, and even though we all know there are many fine hitmisses, hitnymphs, and hitwomen, somehow those more PC termsofart just ain't made the hit parade yet, with or without a •.

Where was I ??? Oh yeah, professionalism …

The question is whether Wikipediots observe Norms Of Research Methodology (NORM's) that are analogous to those observed in the relevant professions.

Now that is such a good question that I think it's worth starting another thread devoted to discussing it — give me a second, as thinking up new titles is always something of a strain for me.

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post Wed 5th September 2007, 1:46am
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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Tue 4th September 2007, 7:52am) *
In ordinary usage, being a professional means you get paid, as in professional hitman.

If getting paid is the only criteria for being a professional, then the word means nothing at all.
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QUOTE(Pwok @ Tue 4th September 2007, 9:46pm) *

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Tue 4th September 2007, 7:52am) *

In ordinary usage, being a professional means you get paid, as in professional hitman.


If getting paid is the only criteria for being a professional, then the word means nothing at all.


I realize that we've all been developing bad cases of TSAS;DR>1L@AT in recent years, but anyone who reads >1¶ of what I wrote would recognize that the 1st ¶ was little more than a comic warmup to the main punchline of the piece.

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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Tue 4th September 2007, 7:00pm) *

TSAS;DR


What's that mean? I asked before.
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QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Tue 4th September 2007, 10:45pm) *

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Tue 4th September 2007, 7:00pm) *

TSAS;DR


What's that mean? I asked before.


And I answered it before.

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Jonny Cache   Norms Of Research Methodology (NORM's)   Tue 4th September 2007, 2:52pm
Jonny Cache   Just so you know where I'm coming from, I...   Tue 4th September 2007, 3:32pm
Jonny Cache   Just So You Know Where I'm Coming From (The Ne...   Tue 4th September 2007, 4:52pm
LamontStormstar   I thought you did more of truth theory. But Wikip...   Tue 4th September 2007, 10:13pm
Pwok   In ordinary usage, being a professional means you ...   Wed 5th September 2007, 1:46am
LamontStormstar   TSAS;DR What's that mean? I asked before.   Wed 5th September 2007, 2:45am
Jonny Cache   TSAS;DR What's that mean? I asked before....   Wed 5th September 2007, 3:16am
Pwok   I didn't see the other posts. Sorry.   Wed 5th September 2007, 2:10am
Jonny Cache   I didn't see the other posts. Sorry. Okay, ...   Wed 5th September 2007, 2:22am
LamontStormstar   Sorry J, I missed that thread somehow.   Wed 5th September 2007, 3:54am


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