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post Sun 16th September 2007, 1:38am
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For Example —

http://wikidashboard.parc.com/wiki/Charles_Peirce

You can set the preferences to show more than the default display.

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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sat 15th September 2007, 7:38pm) *

For Example —

http://wikidashboard.parc.com/wiki/Charles_Peirce

You can set the preferences to show more than the default display.

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Who is parc.com? They can't be the Palo Alto folks, can they? They don't display a homepage at http://parc.com/. How do they figure into this tool?
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post Sun 16th September 2007, 2:04am
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sat 15th September 2007, 10:01pm) *

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sat 15th September 2007, 7:38pm) *

For Example —

http://wikidashboard.parc.com/wiki/Charles_Peirce

You can set the preferences to show more than the default display.

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Who is parc.com? They can't be the Palo Alto folks, can they? They don't display a homepage at http://parc.com/. How do they figure into this tool?


Only PARC that I know.

Some of the buttons in the lower blue bar give info.

DIGG IT : http://wikidashboard.parc.com/

There's some discussion on the Wikienlist, too.

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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sat 15th September 2007, 8:04pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sat 15th September 2007, 10:01pm) *

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sat 15th September 2007, 7:38pm) *

For Example —

http://wikidashboard.parc.com/wiki/Charles_Peirce

You can set the preferences to show more than the default display.

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Who is parc.com? They can't be the Palo Alto folks, can they? They don't display a homepage at http://parc.com/. How do they figure into this tool?


Only PARC that I know.


Some of the buttons in the lower blue bar give info.

DIGG IT : http://wikidashboard.parc.com/

There's some discussion on the Wikienlist, too.

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They do appear to be the PARC folks. I didn't know they were still around. Glad for that.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sat 15th September 2007, 10:11pm) *

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sat 15th September 2007, 8:04pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sat 15th September 2007, 10:01pm) *

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sat 15th September 2007, 7:38pm) *

For Example —

http://wikidashboard.parc.com/wiki/Charles_Peirce

You can set the preferences to show more than the default display.

Jonny cool.gif


Who is parc.com? They can't be the Palo Alto folks, can they? They don't display a homepage at http://parc.com/. How do they figure into this tool?


Only PARC that I know.

Some of the buttons in the lower blue bar give info.

DIGG IT : http://wikidashboard.parc.com/

There's some discussion on the Wikienlist, too.

Jonny cool.gif


They do appear to be the PARC folks. I didn't know they were still around. Glad for that.


Blog 4 Public Discussion

A Question Wrapped In A Comment By Yours Truly

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This is a revolutionary tool for us wiki-watchers. biggrin.gif

Good spot Jonny.
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Also does edit analysis for individual editors, for example:

http://wikidashboard.parc.com/wiki/User:SlimVirgin

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You need to use the "www": http://www.parc.com/
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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sun 16th September 2007, 4:45am) *

Also does edit analysis for individual editors, for example:

http://wikidashboard.parc.com/wiki/User:SlimVirgin

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I've been playing with it ever since I got it out of the wrapper.

But isn't this *gasp* stalking? ohmy.gif

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I don't know what that means anymore.
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Sat 15th September 2007, 9:48pm) *

You need to use the "www": http://www.parc.com/


Thanks. I hate to go off topic but why does a subdomain "http://wikidashboard.parc.com/..." work but not the domain itself "http://parc.com/"? I never understood when "www" was required and thought modern browsers could sort it out anyway.
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QUOTE(Kato @ Sat 15th September 2007, 11:57pm) *

But isn't this *gasp* stalking? ohmy.gif


Yes, but it's Slik Stalking

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I see that SlimV has made 413 edits to former Coventry City goalkeeper, and bland local TV soccer results reader, David Icke. Admittedly, the man had a mid life crisis of profound proportions and thought he was God. But if you knew Icke the way I knew Icke, then you'd find SVs obsession more than a little amusing.



Ah! I see the connection. It's apparent anti-Semitism yet again (groan - sorry guys). After being ridiculed in the UK for telling everyone he was God, and performing the most spectacular about-turn a bland sports results reader could possible take, Icke went to the US to make a fortune ranting about shape shifting lizards taking over the world. wacko.gif

Unbeknownst to the now befuddled Icke, the Jewish anti-defamation league took the lizard references to be code words for Jews, and subsequently, Icke has spent the rest of his "career" insisting that no - he does actually mean shape shifting lizards. People who recalled his scary but hilarious maroon phase in the UK just before his exile to the States, were pretty satisfied with Icke's explanation. And everyone just laughed. But SV is there to pin the anti-semitism slur on this nit-wit's biography nonetheless. And keep pinning it again and again and again. This has got to stop. Oh, it has. laugh.gif

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It's a neat tool. Sort of a cross between Wannabe Kate and Aka's Page History Statistics Tool. It doesn't seem to work on pages which have an emdash (—) in the title, though.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sun 16th September 2007, 12:00am) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Sat 15th September 2007, 9:48pm) *

You need to use the "www": http://www.parc.com/


Thanks. I hate to go off topic but why does a subdomain "http://wikidashboard.parc.com/..." work but not the domain itself "http://parc.com/"? I never understood when "www" was required and thought modern browsers could sort it out anyway.


It's all in the server-side configuration, not in the browser. While most sites are configured to work with or without the www, it depends on how the DNS and web server are set up. Traditionally, a hostname (whether "www" or a subdomain name) was needed because the main domain might be used for lots of things (FTP, e-mail, Telnet, Gopher, etc.) as well as the Web, but since the Web got popular it has tended to dominate.
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Sun 16th September 2007, 7:20am) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sun 16th September 2007, 12:00am) *

QUOTE(dtobias @ Sat 15th September 2007, 9:48pm) *

You need to use the "www": http://www.parc.com/


Thanks. I hate to go off topic but why does a subdomain "http://wikidashboard.parc.com/..." work but not the domain itself "http://parc.com/"? I never understood when "www" was required and thought modern browsers could sort it out anyway.


It's all in the server-side configuration, not in the browser. While most sites are configured to work with or without the www, it depends on how the DNS and web server are set up. Traditionally, a hostname (whether "www" or a subdomain name) was needed because the main domain might be used for lots of things (FTP, e-mail, Telnet, Gopher, etc.) as well as the Web, but since the Web got popular it has tended to dominate.


Thanks Dan. That is the most satisfying answer to that question I have ever seen.

Back to topic. WikiDashBoard is appears to be a valuable tool that can provide some good insights into individual edit patterns and edit conflicts on specific articles. As a means of learning about the tool I have found it useful to use it on articles that I have an intimate understanding of development in order to get a feel of how it can be used and interpreted. I suspect it will make itself useful frequently on WR.
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Wikipedia Review Outrigger —

Discussion of WikiDashBoard at the Augmented Social Cognition Blog

Let me begin by copying the texts of a few initial exchanges on the ASC blog. It will help me to draft my comments here first, as it drives my error-prone self a little bit nuts trying to work on a blog of the Moving Finger type.

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Jonny Cache said...

One question that many people have been asking for quite a while now is — How much of Wikipedia's better quality content has been contributed by editors who are now banned or indefinitely blocked from editing articles on the site? Go tuit!

September 15, 2007 7:26 PM (PDT)


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I would like remark on the following statement:

QUOTE(Bonwon Suh and Ed H. Chi @ 10 Sep 2007 PDT 16:28)

Because the information is out there for anyone to examine and to question, incorrect information can be fixed and two disputed points of view can be listed side-by-side. In fact, this is precisely the academic process for ascertaining the truth. Scholars publish papers so that theories can be put forth and debated, facts can be examined, and ideas challenged. Without publication and without social transparency of attribution of ideas and facts to individual researchers, there would be no scientific progress.

Source. PARC : ASC and WikiDashboard : Providing Social Transparency to Wikipedia


Though I realize this statement may have been tong in cheek (TIC), it behooves me to flag its laughability against the mere chance that anyone might take it seriously. That laughability is evident to anyone who has participated with a clear head in Wikipedia long enough to see the difference between its "espoused values" and its "enacted values" (Argyris & Schon) and to recognize how it works in practice, as opposed to its image in the belief system of its True Believers.

Disclosure. Jon Awbrey and Jonny Cache are two authorships of the same person.

September 16, 2007 10:00 AM (PDT)


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Reflecting on your comments made me realize that perhaps that is the reason why we don't see academic research published without creditials attached to the papers.

Interestingly, however, some conferences in academic circles do require papers to be submitted anonymously, and only after acceptance of the paper are the identities of the authors revealed. This is done to protect publication by reputation (and reputation alone).

In either case, a paper is never published without a verifiable identity. In fact, it is now considered unethical to publish without verifiable data. So no matter what, the part of our blog that is not tongue-in-cheek is that transparency is necessary to ensure data and input can be traced and verified. Knowing an article is written mostly by anonymous contributions or by a single author without verifiable authority ought to raise some flags about the accuracy of the article.

Anyway, thanks for the comments.

September 16, 2007 10:31 PM (PDT)


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