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I find it odd that the ONLY TWO attack sites mentioned explicitly are ED and WR. What about Wikitruth? Is that not considered to be an attack site? I am sorry, but some of the most vicious attacks on ED are carbon copies of what was written on Wikitruth, and Wikitruth does out editors. They were the first ones to out the various transsexual administrators (Kelly Martin, Ambi, etc). I just find it hypocritical that they don't mention Wikitruth.
Furthermore, they pre-suppose what the purpose of the sites are.
ED - the purpose of ED is primarily to make fun of Live Journal, then later MySpace, Blogger, and other blogs. This has been extended to include Furry places, 4chan and Wikipedia. Wikipedia represents a tiny portion of what they do. Furthermore, ED has a policy not to use people's real names unless they are common knowledge or they gave their real names themselves. Whilst I do agree that ED is an attack site, by any sensible definition, it is not an outing site, and if any outing happens there, that is not the primary purpose of the site.
WR - the purpose of WR is to criticise aspects of Wikipedia, both macro and micro. WR criticises the major problems with Wikipedia's structure as well as individual examples of this. In analysing the individual examples, on occasion real world information must be given in order to properly prove it. Whilst WR does tolerate individuals moaning about their bans, that is far from the point of it, and it is far from a requirement of WR that someone must first be banned from Wikipedia (nor even that they must have ever used Wikipedia as an editor).
Wikitruth - the purpose of Wikitruth is primarily to uncensor deleted articles, and secondly to analyse controversial administrators and policies. Wikitruth IS an outing site (the two above are not). I just find it amazing that Wikitruth is not mentioned in this lot.
Wikipedia Watch - this is fundamentally an outing site, designed to out the real life identities of Wikipedia administrators and abusive users, and secondly to state individual criticisms.
Antisocialmedia - whilst it does include Wikipedia, it is not limited to it. I don't know a lot about it so can't comment too much more on it.
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Now, as far as I know, the top 4 listed there are the 4 main sites with regards to discussion of Wikipedia. Now, I think that it is quite accurate to label Wikitruth and Wikipedia Watch as outing sites. It is not accurate to label WR or ED as outing sites. It is accurate to describe ED as an attack site. However, it is not accurate to describe the others as attack sites, at least not in the context of trying to do real world harm.
I find it a little odd that firstly they attribute the wrong definitions, and secondly that they fail to mention the only site that they consider to be prominent enough to be worth its own article - Wikitruth.
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the fieryangel ARBCOM Badsites Sun 16th September 2007, 9:02pm Viridae I'm not seeing the point.
I also disagree wit... Sun 16th September 2007, 10:35pm LamontStormstar These days, JzG seems motivated mainly by his hatr... Sun 16th September 2007, 10:37pm Kato The proposal is this:
I thought this forum had a ... Sun 16th September 2007, 10:44pm SqueakBox
The proposal is this:
I thought this forum had a... Sun 16th September 2007, 11:31pm  The Joy
I added that "There are lots of not banned r... Sun 16th September 2007, 11:36pm  Kato
I added that "There are lots of not banned r... Sun 16th September 2007, 11:49pm Nathan I think the phrase "properly/justly banned... Sun 16th September 2007, 10:58pm tarantino Here Moreschi critiques the critics and equates ED... Mon 17th September 2007, 5:13am Jonny Cache We read all these books in high school.
The logic... Mon 17th September 2007, 5:42am dtobias
I find it a little odd that firstly they attribut... Mon 17th September 2007, 12:22pm  the fieryangel
I find it a little odd that firstly they attribu... Mon 17th September 2007, 12:33pm   Herschelkrustofsky
Well, Dan, your "rutabaga" post was pur... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:08pm    Derktar Although Mr. Tobias and Cla68 are doing their best... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:16pm     dtobias
Although Mr. Tobias and Cla68 are doing their bes... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:30pm      Jonny Cache
[quote name='Derktar' post='50411' date='Mon 17th... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:35pm      blissyu2
[quote name='Derktar' post='50411' date='Mon 17th... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:36pm      everyking
[quote name='Derktar' post='50411' date='Mon 17th... Mon 17th September 2007, 5:49pm       dtobias
Dan, it says you do "not appear to recognise... Mon 17th September 2007, 6:04pm        GlassBeadGame
Dan, it says you do "not appear to recognis... Mon 17th September 2007, 6:23pm       Jonny Cache
Dan, it says you do "not appear to recognise... Mon 17th September 2007, 6:08pm        SqueakBox
Dan, it says you do "not appear to recognis... Mon 17th September 2007, 6:25pm         Jonny Cache
[quote name='Jonny Cache' post='50455' date='Mon ... Mon 17th September 2007, 6:32pm         the fieryangel
Can we spend the next 10 pages arguing the differ... Mon 17th September 2007, 9:02pm     the fieryangel
Although Mr. Tobias and Cla68 are doing their bes... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:34pm     guy
Edit: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia... Mon 17th September 2007, 8:12pm      GlassBeadGame
Edit: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi... Mon 17th September 2007, 8:44pm       Jonny Cache
[quote name='guy' post='50477' date='Mon 17th Sep... Mon 17th September 2007, 8:56pm        GlassBeadGame
Actually, yer rite, but's not gravitation —... Mon 17th September 2007, 9:07pm         Jonny Cache
Actually, yer rite, but's not gravitation â€... Mon 17th September 2007, 9:42pm         Piperdown
Actually, yer rite, but's not gravitation â€... Mon 17th September 2007, 11:47pm          Somey Attack sites is all about the Gary.
If only more p... Tue 18th September 2007, 4:57am           SqueakBox
Attack sites is all about the Gary.
If only more ... Tue 18th September 2007, 6:59pm            Derktar Ya gotta love Fred
4 minutes later his response ... Tue 18th September 2007, 9:09pm             Jonny Cache
There used to be things like DocDemons or RSS F... Tue 18th September 2007, 9:18pm              Derktar
There used to be things like DocDemons or RSS ... Tue 18th September 2007, 9:20pm             guy
If that principle were accepted, then the truth (... Tue 18th September 2007, 10:34pm              Unrepentant Vandal
If that principle were accepted, then the truth ... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:07pm               SqueakBox
If that principle were accepted, then the truth... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:11pm                Derktar
I dont believe we need to inform Jimbo of rubbish... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:17pm                Unrepentant Vandal There is no project apart from its members
You d... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:18pm                 SqueakBox
There is no project apart from its members
You ... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:31pm                  Unrepentant Vandal I think do no harm is far more important than wrii... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:39pm the fieryangel The very best "proposed remedy" in an Ar... Mon 17th September 2007, 9:11am guy Indeed. Mon 17th September 2007, 11:47am  Derktar
Indeed.
The more I look at that the more I thin... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:38pm   dtobias
The more I look at that the more I think it's... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:46pm    Derktar
The more I look at that the more I think it... Tue 18th September 2007, 12:10am blissyu2 So Wikipedia Watch, whose entire point of existing... Mon 17th September 2007, 1:05pm D.A.F. You know what is the most disgusting thing in all ... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:01pm GlassBeadGame I hope Dan doesn't suffer too badly from this ... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:48pm the fieryangel
...or maybe it by design. Perhaps WP has figured... Mon 17th September 2007, 3:58pm blissyu2 There are a number of issues that I have with this... Mon 17th September 2007, 5:01pm blissyu2 The evidence page seems to be quite good so far (w... Mon 17th September 2007, 7:16pm blissyu2 Wow. Note this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wik... Tue 18th September 2007, 2:32am Jonny Cache
Wow. Note this:
WP:R4Arbitrariness/Attack Sites... Tue 18th September 2007, 2:39am LamontStormstar I can't post all the quote for some reason as ... Tue 18th September 2007, 2:38am Robster They've tossed DennyColt under the bus, offici... Tue 18th September 2007, 3:56am dtobias The proposal to sanction me was posted by a now-bl... Tue 18th September 2007, 4:41am GlassBeadGame
The proposal to sanction me was posted by a now-b... Tue 18th September 2007, 6:07am BobbyBombastic For anyone who may have missed it, El C seems to ... Tue 18th September 2007, 5:50am Somey [size=1]On an unrelated note, while searching what... Tue 18th September 2007, 6:17am Jonny Cache I think we have to give Durova some kinda prize â€... Tue 18th September 2007, 10:34am KamrynMatika A few more abitrators besides the ever-transparent... Tue 18th September 2007, 2:34pm Herschelkrustofsky
Kirill Lokshin (one of my favourite arbs, come to... Tue 18th September 2007, 3:04pm BobbyBombastic Particularly interesting:
I suppose the 'ri... Tue 18th September 2007, 4:18pm  Piperdown
[quote name='KamrynMatika' post='50587' date='Tue... Tue 18th September 2007, 4:32pm  Yehudi
But even the "good editors" who realize... Tue 18th September 2007, 6:07pm   BobbyBombastic
But even the "good editors" who realiz... Wed 19th September 2007, 5:40am badlydrawnjeff lol at solidarity. Tue 18th September 2007, 11:07pm Derktar
lol at solidarity.
Well, he has to say somethin... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:08pm dtobias How about this one:
Funny... NPA wasn't in ... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:26pm Derktar
How about this one:
Funny... NPA wasn't in... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:30pm Castle Rock JzG argues that there is no encyclopedic purpose t... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:45pm Unrepentant Vandal Don't worry about Mr. Chapman, he's nuts. ... Tue 18th September 2007, 11:53pm Castle Rock I strongly urge everyone here to read SchmuckyTheC... Wed 19th September 2007, 5:08am Kato You've got to hand it to Charles Matthews.
A... Wed 19th September 2007, 9:05pm Jonny Cache
You've got to hand it to Charles Matthews.
... Wed 19th September 2007, 9:19pm Kato [b]The squelxifiction of Saint Tobias
[center]A... Thu 20th September 2007, 2:35am Jonny Cache
[size=3][u][b]The squelxifiction of Saint Tobias ... Thu 20th September 2007, 3:00am  Kato
Damn! Ya scooped me! Scooped me good... Thu 20th September 2007, 3:16am   Jonny Cache
Saint Tobias lays out his argument [url=http://en... Thu 20th September 2007, 5:42am    Somey Martyrdom is not absolutely necessary but it would... Thu 20th September 2007, 6:40am     the fieryangel
Martyrdom is not absolutely necessary but it woul... Thu 20th September 2007, 8:26am BobbyBombastic Excuse me, but what the hell is Fred doing on the ... Thu 20th September 2007, 5:17am The Joy Wait a minute... didn't FloNight and SlimVirgi... Thu 20th September 2007, 6:27am the fieryangel
What I'm getting at is: Does FloNight have a... Thu 20th September 2007, 8:40am Daniel Brandt
Wait a minute... didn't FloNight and SlimVirg... Thu 20th September 2007, 1:02pm Jonny Cache "Self Assessment Of Conflicts Of Interest... Thu 20th September 2007, 2:04pm blissyu2 They have added proposed decisions now:
http://en... Thu 20th September 2007, 2:43pm Jonny Cache
They have added proposed decisions now:
[url=htt... Thu 20th September 2007, 2:48pm Daniel Brandt I hope FloNight is prepared to defend her failure ... Thu 20th September 2007, 9:10pm Jonny Cache
I hope FloNight is prepared to defend her failure... Thu 20th September 2007, 9:26pm Derktar
I hope FloNight is prepared to defend her failure... Thu 20th September 2007, 10:40pm  Kato Funnier are Fred Bauder's fire and brimstone p... Thu 20th September 2007, 11:27pm   Piperdown
Funnier are Fred Bauder's fire and brimstone ... Thu 20th September 2007, 11:33pm   SqueakBox
Funnier are Fred Bauder's fire and brimstone ... Fri 21st September 2007, 1:26am    Kato
That's Fred for you. He called the pedophile ... Fri 21st September 2007, 7:09pm The Joy And on St. Tobias' Feast Day, we shall feast u... Thu 20th September 2007, 11:32pm
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