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| Piperdown |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=158758673
Cliffb reverted as "sockpuppet of banned user". Nevermind that a quick wikipedia review of Cliffb's editing reveals no such thing. Samiharris is out of control. Good thing tag teamer Gary...er...um...Mantanmoreland is there to revert, so "samiharris" doesn't get a 3RR. |
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| Daniel Brandt |
Tue 25th September 2007, 1:10pm
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Chip Berlet is known for two main themes in his career, at least since the 1980s. Before the 1980s he was regarded as a more conventional leftist, but since the 1980s he has spent a lot of energy criticizing both the left and the right.
One constant theme of Berlet's is that the LaRouche organization is cultic, fascist, and dangerous. The second theme is that leftists who demonstrate an interest in conspiracy theories are a discredit to other correct-thinking leftists, and are dangerously close to rightists who spout conspiracy theories. Whether these leftists that Berlet criticizes are evil or just stupid, is something that Berlet hasn't quite decided yet. (This includes all conspiracy theories, even well-researched ones such as the 1960s assassinations of JFK, RFK, and MLK.) As an alternative to what Berlet regards of "conspiracism" among progressives, he has embraced political correctness in its most perverted form — the "identity politics" that has been funded from above. The Ford Foundation, with its close connections to U.S. intelligence, started pumping money into women's studies, Black studies, and Chicano studies in the early 1970s. McGeorge Bundy was president of the Ford Foundation when this began. Today the Ford Foundation is funding Berlet's group, which was founded by a bunch of trust-fund feminist types back in the early 1980s. (The Wikipedia bio on McGeorge Bundy is very understated on his intelligence connections. For example, William Bundy, his brother, was in the CIA the entire time, and the Ford Foundation worked rather closely with the CIA during the 1950s.) Berlet has also worked with the Anti-Defamation League in order to research rightists. He's pro-Israel. I believe that the "identity politics" that emerged in the 1970s was funded from above as a means of countering the "power structure research" that was beginning to become popular among New Left veterans. These New Left veterans like myself were almost all white males, who figured out very early that U.S. policy in Vietnam could not withstand scrutiny at any level whatsoever. A connection was becoming evident between U.S. corporate capitalism and U.S. foreign policy. The same people were running both. (It's easier to make this point now than it was a few years ago. All you have to do is look at U.S. policy in Iraq.) The white male U.S. New Left was crushed by "identity politics" in the 1970s. It only took a few years before the feminists chased us out of our offices. We were left in the street with a confused look on our faces, hanging on to our research files, and muttering phrases such as "interlocking corporate directorates." Now here's a conspiracy theory that you can play with: Jayjg in his RfA said that he was in his 40s and works in management. Might he be referring to financial management? Lyndon LaRouche says a lot of things that don't make any sense to me. Much of this has to do with the philosophy of science. However, in the one area of international finance, I have been following him and I respect his opinions. Beginning in 1993, LaRouche and his organization have been speaking out on the topic of Wall Street derivatives, and how they threaten to push the international monetary system over the edge. This is still a huge topic, and I believe we'll be hearing much more about this in the next few years. The LaRouche people have been saying things about the greed on Wall Street that Wall Street doesn't want people to hear. Berlet on Wikipedia has been protected by SlimVirgin and Jayjg. Slim might be someone's agent and so might Jayjg. Slim has also been protecting Gary Weiss on Wikipedia. I suspect that people in high places know that the international monetary system is a house of cards. If and when it collapses, the last thing these people want is to discover that a few hundred editors on Wikipedia are trying to connect the dots and figure out who is responsible. These people in high places are using cabalists like Slim and Jayjg to make a preemptive strike that intends to "tame" Wikipedia on certain sensitive topics. Naked short selling sounds ugly to me, just like derivatives sounds ugly. Things that make Wall Street look ugly must not be allowed on Wikipedia, according to people in high places. I think Jimbo knows what's happening, but I don't think he started it. This goes higher than Jimbo. |
| Herschelkrustofsky |
Sun 30th September 2007, 3:07pm
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Chip Berlet is known for two main themes in his career, at least since the 1980s. ... The second theme is that leftists who demonstrate an interest in conspiracy theories are a discredit to other correct-thinking leftists, and are dangerously close to rightists who spout conspiracy theories. .. I think that if Karl Marx were alive today, Berlet would be penning character assassinations against him, branding him "conspiracist" for all the things he says about the capitalist class. I suspect that people in high places know that the international monetary system is a house of cards. If and when it collapses, the last thing these people want is to discover that a few hundred editors on Wikipedia are trying to connect the dots and figure out who is responsible. These people in high places are using cabalists like Slim and Jayjg to make a preemptive strike that intends to "tame" Wikipedia on certain sensitive topics. Naked short selling sounds ugly to me, just like derivatives sounds ugly. Things that make Wall Street look ugly must not be allowed on Wikipedia, according to people in high places. I think Jimbo knows what's happening, but I don't think he started it. This goes higher than Jimbo. I would add that there is a hefty effort to suppress any discussion of possible alternatives to present, failed policies. Will Beback, another major collaborator of the Chipster, went nuts trying to censor the article American System (economics,) which since my departure got transmogrified and redirected. |
| dtobias |
Sun 30th September 2007, 5:15pm
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I think that if Karl Marx were alive today, Berlet would be penning character assassinations against him, branding him "conspiracist" for all the things he says about the capitalist class. Not that there's anything wrong with bashing Marx... |
Piperdown Gary² and the Chipster: the bullying! the lying! Thu 20th September 2007, 1:53am
LamontStormstar I am starting to suspect The Wikimedia Foundation ... Mon 24th September 2007, 2:48am
jorge
I am starting to suspect The Wikimedia Foundation... Mon 24th September 2007, 8:55am
Kato
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Na... Mon 24th September 2007, 7:42pm
jorge
Attempts to rfc these situations, and bring them... Mon 24th September 2007, 10:24pm

LamontStormstar
Well, Weiss is a financial journalist and Wales ... Mon 24th September 2007, 10:34pm

jorge
Well, Weiss is a financial journalist and Wales... Mon 24th September 2007, 10:56pm


Piperdown
[quote name='LamontStormstar' post='51627' date='... Tue 25th September 2007, 1:29am


jorge
[quote name='LamontStormstar' post='51627' date=... Tue 25th September 2007, 11:13am

nobs
[quote name='jorge' post='51624' date='Mon 24th S... Tue 2nd October 2007, 5:18pm

Herschelkrustofsky
Who is [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_... Tue 2nd October 2007, 9:31pm

nobs
Who is [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard... Tue 2nd October 2007, 9:39pm

dtobias
Perhaps more significantly, the WP article reveal... Tue 2nd October 2007, 11:19pm

nobs
[quote name='nobs' post='52679' date='Tue 2nd Oct... Wed 3rd October 2007, 12:27am

GlassBeadGame
[quote name='nobs' post='52679' date='Tue 2nd Oc... Wed 3rd October 2007, 12:33am
Somey Somey recently concluded that Gary Weiss was large... Tue 25th September 2007, 7:07am

Kato
At one point I had a theory which suggested that ... Tue 25th September 2007, 11:35am


jorge
[b]Berlet argues that as they interacted, some of... Tue 25th September 2007, 11:55am


Kato
[b]Berlet argues that as they interacted, some o... Tue 25th September 2007, 12:17pm


Emperor
Berlet is absolutely full of crap. He is the one ... Thu 27th September 2007, 5:55pm


Kato
This statement was challenged and the resulting p... Thu 27th September 2007, 5:59pm


Emperor
This statement was challenged and the resulting ... Thu 27th September 2007, 7:25pm


Kato
I was responding to a false and inflammatory post... Thu 27th September 2007, 7:58pm

Herschelkrustofsky
At one point I had a theory which suggested that ... Thu 27th September 2007, 2:59pm

GlassBeadGame
[quote name='Somey' post='51719' date='Tue 25th S... Thu 27th September 2007, 3:41pm

Daniel Brandt
One of the appealing features of the Marxist ver... Thu 27th September 2007, 5:29pm

Herschelkrustofsky
One of the appealing features of the Marxist ve... Thu 27th September 2007, 9:11pm

Daniel Brandt
LaRouche was interested in class consciousness up... Thu 27th September 2007, 11:35pm

Jonny Cache
Still, I think LaRouche is much too optimistic ab... Fri 28th September 2007, 12:12am

Herschelkrustofsky
I had never heard of Henry Carey before. This hel... Fri 28th September 2007, 7:04am
Piperdown
[quote name='Piperdown' post='50812' date='Thu 20... Fri 19th October 2007, 12:06am
Nathan Where's the doppelganger thread you mention? T... Tue 25th September 2007, 1:32am
Piperdown
Where's the doppelganger thread you mention?
... Tue 25th September 2007, 1:34am
Kato The second theme is that leftists who demonstrate ... Tue 25th September 2007, 11:07pm
Herschelkrustofsky
Chip Berlet is known for two main themes in his c... Sun 30th September 2007, 3:07pm
Jonny Cache Thanks for the explanation, Daniel, this stuff has... Tue 25th September 2007, 1:36pm
Kato
Thanks for the explanation, Daniel, this stuff ha... Wed 26th September 2007, 7:15pm
Somey I can see how the Chipster shouldn't be seen a... Sun 30th September 2007, 3:53pm
guy
the Religious Right in the USA, who he refers to ... Sun 30th September 2007, 5:08pm
GlassBeadGame
[quote name='Somey' post='52353' date='Sun 30th S... Sun 30th September 2007, 5:29pm
guy
Anyways, I was taught that Methodist were Baptist... Sun 30th September 2007, 5:32pm
Herschelkrustofsky
That is to say, one thing we've failed to not... Mon 1st October 2007, 3:48am
Joseph100
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