JzG Gone Again, stalking, harassment, robbery, rape, prank phone calls, toilet paper Options

[GlassBeadGame]

There are worse things to be addicted to than websites. Like drugs, whether of the
legal or illegal variety. And drugs, at least the legal kind, are better than self-injury.
And self-injury is better than suicide attempts.

All happiness is addictive, really. And treatment programs don't work for a lot of
people. I mean, they get 'better', but then as soon as something traumatic happens
they crawl back into the bottle, or whatever their addiction is. Many addictions
you recover from simply by getting addicted to something else.

Anyway, not saying JzG is an addict, but even if he is, I don't care, I'm probably
much worse.

I would think it would matter how it effected your life more than the particulars of the addiction.

[AB]

I would think it would matter how it effected your life more than the particulars of the addiction.

When life is pain, addiction can help distract a person from being completely miserable.

[GlassBeadGame]

I would think it would matter how it effected your life more than the particulars of the addiction.

When life is pain, addiction can help distract a person from being completely miserable.

My understanding of addiction is that at some point it causes more pain than it ameliorates.

[AB]

My understanding of addiction is that at some point it cause more pain than it ameliorates.

Well, which d'ye think sounds worse? A. Remaining completely and utterly miserable
24/7 and becoming more and more hopeless the more you get used to it. B.
Alternating between misery and happiness (or at least some sort of relief, if not outright
happiness), where the sharp contrast makes the misery seem that much worse.

[GlassBeadGame]

My understanding of addiction is that at some point it cause more pain than it ameliorates.

Well, which d'ye think sounds worse? A. Remaining completely and utterly miserable
24/7 and becoming more and more hopeless the more you get used to it. B.
Alternating between misery and happiness (or at least some sort of relief, if not outright
happiness), where the sharp contrast makes the misery seem that much worse.

I have made the big decision
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
'Cause when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the dropper's neck
When I'm closing in on death
And you can't help me not, you guys
And all you sweet girls with all your sweet silly talk
You can all go take a walk
And I guess that I just don't know

--- Lou Reed, Heroin

I have had some bad things happen to me. My responses have not always been adaptive. Still, I can not envision anything like "24/7"s of misery for any prolonged period of time. I have no problem with people choosing the pleasures of drugs or other addictions. Being addicted to an encyclopedia, however, just seems silly. The Velvet Underground would never write songs about Wikipedia.

[Moulton]

The Velvet Underground would never write songs about Wikipedia.

Prolly not, but in the spirit of the Glass Bead Game, I am wont to write songs about Homo Ludens...

Funeral March of the Marionettes

Midi Accompaniment: http://ultra.musenet.org:8020/media/alhitch.mid

Homo Ludens is on the loose!
Homo Ludens escaped the noose!

He's on a spree!
What can this be?

Maybe he's cooked his goose.

[Jonny Cache]

My understanding of addiction is that at some point it causes more pain than it ameliorates.

Well, which d'ye think sounds worse?

1. Remaining completely and utterly miserable 24/7 and becoming more and more hopeless the more you get used to it.
2. Alternating between misery and happiness (or at least some sort of relief, if not outright happiness), where the sharp contrast makes the misery seem that much worse.

I have made the big decision
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
'Cause when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the dropper's neck
When I'm closing in on death
And you can't help me not, you guys
And all you sweet girls with all your sweet silly talk
You can all go take a walk
And I guess that I just don't know

— Lou Reed, Heroin

I have had some bad things happen to me. My responses have not always been adaptive. Still, I can not envision anything like "24/7"s of misery for any prolonged period of time. I have no problem with people choosing the pleasures of drugs or other addictions. Being addicted to an encyclopedia, however, just seems silly. The Velvet Underground would never write songs about Wikipedia.

Having survived the 60's — don't ask me how, dumb luck, I guess — and having watched not a few of my generational cohort fall prey to addictions and cults of all kinds, if nothing else I did at least learn to recognize the bad seed before it flowers and bears its full harvest.

Wikipedia is a BADSEED, one of the baddest I ever did see.

Jonny

This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Mon 5th November 2007, 12:33am

[AB]

I have made the big decision
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
'Cause when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the dropper's neck
When I'm closing in on death
And you can't help me not, you guys
And all you sweet girls with all your sweet silly talk
You can all go take a walk
And I guess that I just don't know

--- Lou Reed, Heroin

I have had some bad things happen to me. My responses have not always been adaptive. Still, I can not envision anything like "24/7"s of misery for any prolonged period of time. I have no problem with people choosing the pleasures of drugs or other addictions. Being addicted to an encyclopedia, however, just seems silly. The Velvet Underground would never write songs about Wikipedia.

Hey, it's better than being addicted to physical pain.

Hymn to Physical Pain

Dread Mother of Forgetfulness
Who, when Thy reign begins,
Wipest away the Soul's distress,
And memory of her sins.

The trusty Worm that dieth not--
The steadfast Fire also,
By Thy contrivance are forgot
In a completer woe.

Thine are the lidless eyes of night
That stare upon our tears,
Through certain hours which in our sight
Exceed a thousand years:

Thine is the thickness of the Dark
That presses in our pain,
As Thine the Dawn that bids us mark
Life's grinning face again.

Thine is the weariness outworn
No promise shall relieve,
That says at eve, "Would God 'twere morn"
At morn, "Would God 'twere eve!"

And when Thy tender mercies cease
And life unvexed is due,
Instant upon the false release
The Worm and Fire renew.

Wherefore we praise Thee in the deep,
And on our beds we pray
For Thy return that Thou may'st keep
The Pains of Hell at bay!

If a person were theoretically addicted to WP, I think it would be to the
community more than the encyclopaedia. Unfortunately, the WP community
only seems supportive until they betray you and sledgehammer your heart.

[Kato]

I probably got "addicted" to WP at one stage. But it wasn't the community or the drama, I hated all that. It was creating content for readers. I am addicted to the act of creating, polishing, tending and improving a body of work. I always have been. I'm really good at it. Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't and on WP there's only so many times you can keep a fixed grin before you think - sod this!

WP killed my previously healthy attitude towards creative collaboration.

[blissyu2]

(Deleted my own post. Too long, too personal, and too far off topic).

Just try to look for the positives if you can, and if you must use drugs, use them because you enjoy them, not because you are trying to forget.

[WhispersOfWisdom]

My understanding of addiction is that at some point it causes more pain than it ameliorates.

Well, which d'ye think sounds worse?

1. Remaining completely and utterly miserable 24/7 and becoming more and more hopeless the more you get used to it.
2. Alternating between misery and happiness (or at least some sort of relief, if not outright happiness), where the sharp contrast makes the misery seem that much worse.

I have made the big decision
I'm gonna try to nullify my life
'Cause when the blood begins to flow
When it shoots up the dropper's neck
When I'm closing in on death
And you can't help me not, you guys
And all you sweet girls with all your sweet silly talk
You can all go take a walk
And I guess that I just don't know

— Lou Reed, Heroin

I have had some bad things happen to me. My responses have not always been adaptive. Still, I can not envision anything like "24/7"s of misery for any prolonged period of time. I have no problem with people choosing the pleasures of drugs or other addictions. Being addicted to an encyclopedia, however, just seems silly. The Velvet Underground would never write songs about Wikipedia.

Having survived the 60's — don't ask me how, dumb luck, I guess — and having watched not a few of my generational cohort fall prey to addictions and cults of all kinds, if nothing else I did at least learn to recognize the bad seed before it flowers and bears its full harvest.

Wikipedia is a BADSEED, one of the baddest I ever did see.

Jonny

Like a pod full of bad seeds, Wikipedia is becoming. Many of the good seeds have left, fully disgusted by an utter lack of intelligence and an atmosphere void of charachter and integrity.

[WhispersOfWisdom]

I probably got "addicted" to WP at one stage. But it wasn't the community or the drama, I hated all that. It was creating content for readers. I am addicted to the act of creating, polishing, tending and improving a body of work. I always have been. I'm really good at it. Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't and on WP there's only so many times you can keep a fixed grin before you think - sod this!

WP killed my previously healthy attitude towards creative collaboration.

I think... the younger the crowd, the more likely you are going to finally puke your guts out.

I mean, many kids today do not even know what or where Vietnam is? 30 second attention spans and virtually no ability to do anything that does not directly connect to a power chord.

How many terms did FDR serve and what was his greatest accomplishment?

Guitar hero is more of a challenge than learning to play a real instrument.

How do we spell bubble? Roaring 20's.

My comment was originally directed toward JzG, because I think he is a WP addict of the first order.

The internet, in general, can be highly addictive. That is why I try to have a pubicist and marketing teams do the MySpace and WP thing. LOLS. Remember, I was deleted and I have sock puppets of me when I was never there?

This post has been edited by WhispersOfWisdom: Mon 5th November 2007, 3:10am

[Herschelkrustofsky]

The internet, in general, can be highly addictive. That is why I try to have a pubicist and marketing teams do the MySpace and WP thing.

I have long been of the opinion that MySpace was strictly for pubicists.

[blissyu2]

I have long been of the opinion that MySpace was strictly for pubicists.

Publicists?

I can never get my MySpace to work properly.

[WhispersOfWisdom]

I have long been of the opinion that MySpace was strictly for pubicists.

Publicists?

I can never get my MySpace to work properly.

http://www.MySpace.com/LeeNysted

http://www.MySpace.com/Nysted

http://www.MySpace.com/NystedMusic

500,000 little pubics have been there.

It is pubicists, btw. The entire site is run by sexuality and flash/flash. I could not take it.

It is all advertising and all hype.

[blissyu2]

Oh well perhaps I am better off to stick with little old MSN Spaces, where I write in my little blog, nobody reads it, nobody writes any comments, and I can just write to my heart's content. It looks terrible but hey.

Everyone has MySpace though I think. Even politicians have them. And musicians. If you like someone who is famous, you can just add their MySpace to yours as a friend, and then you feel like you're talking to a famous person. Even though they often get someone else to write their replies for them.

[Jonny Cache]

The internet, in general, can be highly addictive. That is why I try to have a pubicist and marketing teams do the MySpace and WP thing. LOLS. Remember, I was deleted and I have sock puppets of me when I was never there?

HaHa, we made you say pubicist !

Jonny

[gomi]

Having survived the 60's — don't ask me how, dumb luck, I guess — and having watched not a few of my generational cohort fall prey to addictions and cults of all kinds, ....

"I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked,
dragging themselves through the bit-drenched streets at dawn looking for an angry hack,
angelheaded hipsters burning for the ancient heavenly connection to the starry website in the machinery of night,
who poverty and tatters and hollow-eyed and high sat up smoking in the supernatural darkness of ... Wikipedia ..."

-- Jonny "Ginsberg" Cache

[AB]

Just try to look for the positives if you can, and if you must use drugs, use them because you enjoy them, not because you are trying to forget.

It's not about enjoying or forgetting. Enjoying... they don't really do that. Forgetting... well, I'd like to not be constantly thinking about these things all the time, but I already know the dangers of forgetting entire memories. It's more for numbing and distractability. I don't want to feel. Braindeadness is bliss. And if I can think about
something else, that's helpful. Being unconscious is even better.