The Chipster goes on strike, -- cabal in disarray? Options

[guy]

It's a witchhunt I tell you! The anti-semites have won the day and are polishing their jack boots as we speak!

What? Berlet isn't Jewish, is he?

[nobs]

It's a witchhunt I tell you! The anti-semites have won the day and are polishing their jack boots as we speak!

What? Berlet isn't Jewish, is he?

Berlet's identity spoiler implies that he's not; but then again, all we have is the credibility of the author to on.

[Kato]

It's a witchhunt I tell you! The anti-semites have won the day and are polishing their jack boots as we speak!

What? Berlet isn't Jewish, is he?

Berlet's identity spoiler implies that he's not; but then again, all we have is the credibility of the author to on.

It is telling that an administrator at conservapedia is complaining about Berlet, whereas I find it offensive that Berlet invokes the slogans of international socialism to conduct his petty attacks. Years of solidarity movements, union battles and working class resistance in the face of private power, reduced by Berlet to some campaign against a marginal and powerless American independent. Liberals like Berlet have nothing to do with the socialist movement.

Some may view this as a sign that Berlet is holding a middle ground. It isn't. It is a sign that his POV is so damaged that he pisses everybody off. It is perfectly possible to hold a flexible POV on a difficult subject, working alongside other editors with different views, creating great articles for their own sake, not to push some view, dare I say it: collaborating. It isn't easy, but there are people who have done it a lot better than Berlet did. And in the end, the main threats to these good editors have come from powerful bullies like Berlet, SV, Jayjg etc.

[jorge]

It's a witchhunt I tell you! The anti-semites have won the day and are polishing their jack boots as we speak!

What? Berlet isn't Jewish, is he?

It was sarcasm Guy .

[Herschelkrustofsky]

It's a witchhunt I tell you! The anti-semites have won the day and are polishing their jack boots as we speak!

What? Berlet isn't Jewish, is he?

He's as WASPy as they come. His given name is John Foster Berlet, because his parents were great admirers of John Foster Dulles. The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree.

[jorge]

He's as WASPy as they come. His given name is John Foster Berlet, because his parents were great admirers of John Foster Dulles. The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree.

"According to Stephen Kinzer's 2006 book Overthrow, the firm benefited from doing business with the Nazi regime, and throughout 1934, Dulles was a very public supporter of Hitler. "

EDIT: I'm surprised Chip didn't remove that!

[It's the blimp, Frank]

Hey, Chip is not so slick. He immediated created User:Hardindr as a sock to evade his block, and then his sock got blocked, too.

[Derktar]

Hey, Chip is not so slick. He immediated created User:Hardindr as a sock to evade his block, and then his sock got blocked, too.

Hmm very intriguing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hardindr
Hardindr's Contribs

He shows up yesterday and begins editing Berlet's page and Lyndon Larouche, clearly he is familiar with wikipolicies as well:

Appeal of Indefinite Block to Arbitration Committee

I am appealing this indefinite block to the Arbitration Committee. I am emailing clerk User:Newyorkbrad to make a formal request. --Hardindr 00:26, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

So it's either Berlet or someone trying to make Berlet look foolish.

[Daniel Brandt]

How can anyone make Berlet look more stupid than Berlet is able to make himself look stupid?

In Lobster, #24, 1992 (yes, that's 1992!), I wrote this:

Berlet hand-delivered a letter to Oliver Stone dated January 16, 1992, in which he called on him to "distance yourself publicly from attempts by racist, anti-Jewish and pro-fascist groups to use your film JFK as a vehicle to promote bigoted theories claiming Jewish control of U.S. foreign policy and the CIA..."

Oliver Stone? Come on, now. Mr. Stone may take a snort occasionally, but he's not in serious danger of being used by that vast right-wing conspiracy. Berlet is a maniac, and the sooner Wikipedia blocks him permanently, the better off Wikipedia will be.

He's been pulling this shit for a long, long time.

[Somey]

Berlet hand-delivered a letter to Oliver Stone dated January 16, 1992, in which he called on him to "distance yourself publicly from attempts by racist, anti-Jewish and pro-fascist groups to use your film JFK as a vehicle to promote bigoted theories claiming Jewish control of U.S. foreign policy and the CIA..."

Was he even watching the right movie?

Because y'know, 1992... that was back in the days of VCR's, before everyone had DVD players. It was pretty easy to record over your copy of JFK with a completely different movie, such as Der Ewige Jude, or maybe a Leni Riefenstahl picture such as Triumph of the Will.

It would actually explain a lot of things...

[Herschelkrustofsky]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hardindr
Hardindr's Contribs

He shows up yesterday and begins editing Berlet's page ...

...a few hours after Cberlet was blocked by Thatcher131.

[Poetlister]

He's as WASPy as they come. His given name is John Foster Berlet

Berlet is a WASP name?

[JohnA]

It is telling that an administrator at conservapedia is complaining about Berlet, whereas I find it offensive that Berlet invokes the slogans of international socialism to conduct his petty attacks. Years of solidarity movements, union battles and working class resistance in the face of private power, reduced by Berlet to some campaign against a marginal and powerless American independent. Liberals like Berlet have nothing to do with the socialist movement.

Wrong. Berlet is a Trotskyite. He is no liberal as his writings clearly show.

[Cedric]

Hee hee! I can never read one of these self-pitying "goodbye, cruel wiki!" messages from one of the cabalistas without thinking of the refrain to this old song:

I don't want to play in your yard,
I don't like you anymore,
You'll be sorry when you see me,
Sliding down our cellar door,
You can't holler down our rainbarrel,
You can't climb our apple tree,
I don't want to play in your yard,
If you won't be good to me.

And with alternate lyrics, probably more appropriate to Wikipedia:

Say say old enemy
Come out and fight with me
And bring your bb gun
And we'll have lots of fun
I'll scratch your eyes out
And make you bleed to death
And we'll be jolly enemies
Forever evermore.

[Somey]

Berlet is a WASP name?

I don't see why not...? I have a pet hornet named "Montreaux"...

I tried to think of a relevant acronym for his name, but the best one I could come up with was "RFC: John, Hitler's top bee." But that would just invoke Godwin's Law, I suppose.

[nobs]

It is telling that an administrator at conservapedia is complaining about Berlet, whereas I find it offensive that Berlet invokes the slogans of international socialism to conduct his petty attacks. Years of solidarity movements, union battles and working class resistance in the face of private power, reduced by Berlet to some campaign against a marginal and powerless American independent. Liberals like Berlet have nothing to do with the socialist movement.

Wrong. Berlet is a Trotskyite. He is no liberal as his writings clearly show.

Berlet's a Charter Member of the Enver Hoxha Society, and Enver Hoxha is no Trotskyite.

I do believe Berlet has a sock, but the name escapes me. It started with a W, if I recall, and was two names.

[Kato]

Berlet's a Charter Member of the Enver Hoxha Society, and Enver Hoxha is no Trotskyite.

I do believe Berlet has a sock, but the name escapes me. It started with a W, if I recall, and was two names.

That nonsense is just as wrong headed as Berlet's own missives, Nobs.

Possessing a genuine affection for Stalinism, in 1983 Berlet was a founding member of the "Chicago Area Friends of Albania," an organization whose mission.... BLAH BLAH BLAH

Berlet has all the attributes of the ex-Trotskyite scribe, the denunciations and the hyperbole. But that's about it. The guy who wrote your link is another screaming ex-Trotskyite scribe, Nobs. Why can't the pair of them just f-f-f-f-fade away.

[dtobias]

Socialist, Communist, Trotskyite, Stalinist... who cares? Just like horseshit, bullshit, chickenshit, and goatshit are all somewhat different from one another in composition, but they all stink, the same is true of all the different varieties of socialism.

[GlassBeadGame]

Socialist, Communist, Trotskyite, Stalinist... who cares? Just like horseshit, bullshit, chickenshit, and goatshit are all somewhat different from one another in composition, but they all stink, the same is true of all the different varieties of socialism.

So there is no meaningful difference between Pol Pot and Canada's New Democratic Party?

[nobs]

Berlet's a Charter Member of the Enver Hoxha Society, and Enver Hoxha is no Trotskyite.

I do believe Berlet has a sock, but the name escapes me. It started with a W, if I recall, and was two names.

That nonsense is just as wrong headed as Berlet's own missives, Nobs.

Possessing a genuine affection for Stalinism, in 1983 Berlet was a founding member of the "Chicago Area Friends of Albania," an organization whose mission.... BLAH BLAH BLAH

Berlet has all the attributes of the ex-Trotskyite scribe, the denunciations and the hyperbole. But that's about it. The guy who wrote your link is another screaming ex-Trotskyite scribe, Nobs. Why can't the pair of them just f-f-f-f-fade away.

Examining all the evidence, Berlet's association with the Chicago Area Stalinist Association probably should not be interpreted in that type of ideological context. After the Russian Wheat Deal of 1973, Soviet commodity traders, that is to say the KGB, became very active in Chicago Commodity markets. Here we need to reexamine the activities of other friends of Berlet who got filthy stinking rich on Chicago Commodity markets in the 1980s (remember, for example, how the Soviets manuipualted the price of gold in 1980 when it shot up to $875 per oz from about a $320 base after the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. Coincidentlally, the Soviets were the worlds second largest gold producer and seller as price floated inadvertantly high for much of the 1980s). This is where Berlet's financial angel, Richard Dennis comes back in the picture.

Then we have Berlet's longtime association with the commie rag, Guardian whom Wilfred Burchett wrote for in the 1950s in between coercing confessions from American POWs during the Korean War. Oddly, Berlet stopped writing for Guardian about three months before it, and the Soviet Union, both went out of existence when Gorbachev pulled the plug in 1992.