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Herschelkrustofsky
post Fri 19th October 2007, 12:43am
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JzG delivers a tour d'horizon of all our latest threads, for the benefit of the ArbCom. Then Charles Matthews restates it.
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post Sun 21st October 2007, 4:10am
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Could some mod please just move the pic parts to the tarpit, where there's an explicit warning on the door, so AB will shut the hecque up?

We all know that nothing above is porn in any post-Victorian sense of the word — there's more explicit stuff than that on the CBC for Pete's sake — not to mention vastly more degrading stuff on Wikipedia, and if AB doesn't quit going on and on about it, I'll personally start dragging some of that over here.

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post Sun 21st October 2007, 7:23am
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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sun 21st October 2007, 5:10am) *

not to mention vastly more degrading stuff on Wikipedia, and if AB doesn't quit going on and on about it, I'll personally start dragging some of that over here.

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QUOTE(Nathan @ Sun 21st October 2007, 8:16am) *

Sounds sensible to me.

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post Sun 21st October 2007, 9:55am
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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sun 21st October 2007, 5:10am) *

not to mention vastly more degrading stuff on Wikipedia, and if AB doesn't quit going on and on about it, I'll personally start dragging some of that over here.


I think that the main thing that this points out is that the main problem with such content on WP is that one does not have a choice as to whether or not one wishes to view it. One happens upon an article and suddenly one has to deal with "Elbow bondage" and everything that represents, whether one wants to or not.

Recently, I was tricked into visiting a site called 2girls1cup which features graphic scatological content. I consider myself pretty open to all forms of sexuality, but I just don't get this type of behavior. However, as long as I don't have to actually see it, the idea wasn't a problem.

Being tricked into watching this film made me physically sick and very angry. I didn't need to see these images and once I had, I could not take them back. I still retch when I think about this. It brought home to me that some images that I find to be interesting or neutral might make others have the same sort of reaction that I had with this scat site.

So, the fact that WP is not censored means that suddenly you have to deal these things, and once you see them, you can't take them back. This is not necessarily a good thing.

For AB,

To understand exactly why this "big bust models" issue came up, JzG had been documented as having made the statement that there were no important female opera composers because there were none on his Ipod, which has been much discussed in feminist musicology circles as being sexist.

Greg made the discovery using Wikiscanner that JzG was editing lots of articles about "big bust" models and then contrasted them with the portraits of Dame Ethel Smyth :

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and Judith Weir :

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Two important female opera composers.

Suddenly, his POV bias becomes much more apparent....

So, it wasn't all about the gratuitous porn images....although part of it was.

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Herschelkrustofsky   JzG: Wikipedia Review superfan   Fri 19th October 2007, 12:43am
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the fieryangel   Besides, which would cause your wife more humili...   Fri 19th October 2007, 1:17pm
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Herschelkrustofsky   Perhaps we could all agree that the point about Jz...   Sun 21st October 2007, 6:09am
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