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Jonny Cache
post Sun 21st October 2007, 2:25pm
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Picking up on one of Kato's «Key Questions» and generalizing another:
  • What is the root problem in Wikipedia?
  • What do all of these episodes we keep watching have in common?
I suggest that the answer will come from pursuing the question:

What is the real purpose of those who control Wikipedia?

Maybe it's just me, but I don't think we have to watch every last episode of the Wikipediot Soap Opera, much less every spin-off like Citzendium, ConservaToryPedia, VergoPedia, AdNauseaPedia that comes down the WikiPike in order to figure out the answer to this question once and for all.

So permit me to extract my most recent mini-manifesto on this score from the pages of the Soap Opera Digest (SOD) — where it is likely to get buried beneath the fray of WhoScrewedWhoToday — and reprint it here.

I keep trying to share what clues I've gathered, but folks at The Wikipedia Review are as just as blind as folks at Wikipedia and all the clueless InterNeuts in the Wowie-Zowie-Web-O-Sphere.

Maybe folks didn't read the same books My Generation did in school and college. The scenario was laid out clearly enough in all of those Prophetically Dystopian novels of my childhood, and the basic principles of media dynamics that are involved in Wikipediac Devolution were all laid out by Marshall McLuhan so long ago that they passed from Archetype to Cliche when I was an Undergrub, and apparently into Oblivion now.

You all keep being distracted by one damn Message after another when you ought to be looking at the kind of Medium that is being so craftily crafted under your very noses.

For example, people on all sides waste so gawdawful much time trying to figure out what side the Cabal is on — when it comes to this or that economic, political, religious, or scientific tiff.

The Cabal is not on any side but the Cabal's side.

Sure, maybe the Cabal is taking the side of North-North-West Eurasia today, but it can just as easily shift to taking the side of Southerly Eurasia any time that it becomes convenient to do so.

What does that mean for the Media Operating Characteristic (MOC) that will selected as their Most Favoured MOC?

It means that their Most Favoured MOC cannot allow itself to get phase-locked forever into any one POV. More precisely, it must be agile enough to shift its phase 180° in a period of time just ε-greater than the modal attention span of the viewing public.

How long is that?

Your Mullage May Vary, but if we look at the US case in the last Dubya-Dubya Police Action, the US media were reporting on the Future Sea Battle for just about 6 months before it started to look downright silly not to go ahead and have it.

Six months is not exactly turning on a dime, and I think that the Powers That Bee are probably trying to get that down to a temporal turning radius ≤ 6 weeks.

For now …

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QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 19th December 2007, 11:36am) *

One of the ways to avoid shattered expectations is to organize around an express Social Contract. That's not a very popular approach, although it's been used in some notable Linux open source projects. Google also has a Social Contract with its employees.

Wikipedia has expressly rebuffed the idea of a Social Contract model.


I do not know how you took them, but I read Wikipedia's mass of policy and guideline pages as an implicit social contract. I held up my end of the bargain — those who arrogated to themselves the name of "community" did not.

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Jonny Cache   The WikiPedia Medium Is The WikiPedia Massage   Sun 21st October 2007, 2:25pm
the fieryangel   [b][i]What is the real purpose of those who cont...   Sun 21st October 2007, 3:22pm
Jonny Cache   [b][i]What is the real purpose of those who cont...   Sun 21st October 2007, 3:42pm
Jonny Cache   I am reviving this thread on account of its releva...   Fri 14th December 2007, 12:32pm
Moulton   It occurs to me that there is a clue in Jimbo...   Fri 14th December 2007, 12:51pm
WhispersOfWisdom   It occurs to me that there is a clue in Jimbo...   Fri 14th December 2007, 3:28pm
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Moulton' post='66675' date='Fri 14th...   Fri 14th December 2007, 3:45pm
Jonny Cache   We have been observing a social phenomenon and tes...   Tue 18th December 2007, 4:30am
Disillusioned Lackey   Google, however, is positioned to provide alterna...   Fri 14th December 2007, 7:21pm
Jonny Cache   Work In Progress — Picking up on one of Kato...   Fri 14th December 2007, 1:11pm
Saltimbanco   What is the real purpose of those who control Wik...   Fri 14th December 2007, 3:56pm
Jonny Cache   [b][i]What is the real purpose of those who contr...   Fri 14th December 2007, 6:48pm
Saltimbanco   I don't see much about Wikipedia that could b...   Fri 14th December 2007, 7:49pm
Jonny Cache   I don't see much about Wikipedia that could ...   Fri 14th December 2007, 8:02pm
Jonny Cache   Let us try to stick with the question of what purp...   Fri 14th December 2007, 8:23pm
Moulton   It occurs to me that a thorough analysis will exam...   Fri 14th December 2007, 3:52pm
Jonny Cache   It occurs to me that a thorough analysis will exa...   Fri 14th December 2007, 4:04pm
WhispersOfWisdom   http://www.electronista.com/articles/07/12/14/goog...   Fri 14th December 2007, 3:53pm
Moulton   Purposive systems can have both expressed and impl...   Fri 14th December 2007, 4:25pm
Jonny Cache   Purposive systems can have both expressed and imp...   Fri 14th December 2007, 4:34pm
Moulton   I plan to be on the lookout for chiastic anti-stru...   Fri 14th December 2007, 4:43pm
Jonny Cache   A major theme in systems science is the duality be...   Fri 14th December 2007, 7:42pm
Saltimbanco   If I understand you, Jonny, I don't think I ag...   Sat 15th December 2007, 6:39am
Jonny Cache   Salt, This is not a day when I can focus, except ...   Sat 15th December 2007, 3:18pm
Jonny Cache   [i]I continue to continue … [quote name='Saltim...   Sat 15th December 2007, 10:46pm
Saltimbanco   You appear to putting forth what is known in semi...   Sun 16th December 2007, 2:51am
Saltimbanco   I have a logical-semiotic quibble with the term Â...   Sun 16th December 2007, 2:29am
Jonny Cache   I have a logical-semiotic quibble with the term ...   Sun 16th December 2007, 3:44am
Saltimbanco   So the generic question is — «[b][i]How Do Wi...   Sun 16th December 2007, 4:28am
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='67263' date='Sat ...   Sun 16th December 2007, 4:34am
Saltimbanco   I guess I give more weight to the "pretty go...   Sun 16th December 2007, 4:57am
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='67263' date='Sat ...   Sun 16th December 2007, 5:10am
Jonny Cache   [i]… and flowers never bend … [quote name='Sa...   Sun 16th December 2007, 4:30pm
Saltimbanco   You seem to be equivocating the term «[i]Backgro...   Mon 17th December 2007, 1:41am
WhispersOfWisdom   Does anyone really believe that there is any incen...   Sun 16th December 2007, 3:04am
Saltimbanco   Let me clarify that I think Wikipedia works pretty...   Sun 16th December 2007, 3:22am
WhispersOfWisdom   In order for Wikipedia to ever effectively compete...   Sun 16th December 2007, 3:52am
Saltimbanco   Possibly I have a greater general contempt for mos...   Sun 16th December 2007, 5:34am
Jonny Cache   Possibly I have a greater general contempt for mo...   Sun 16th December 2007, 5:50am
Saltimbanco   I disagree, Jon. First, how much do you ever real...   Sun 16th December 2007, 6:09am
Jonny Cache   I disagree, Jon. First, how much do you ever rea...   Sun 16th December 2007, 6:18am
Saltimbanco   I have to pack it in for the day, but I remind yo...   Sun 16th December 2007, 4:26pm
WhispersOfWisdom   I have to pack it in for the day, but I remind y...   Sun 16th December 2007, 4:57pm
Jonny Cache   I disagree, Jon. First, how much do you ever rea...   Mon 17th December 2007, 12:46am
Saltimbanco   Point 1. I'm not talking about knowing what ...   Mon 17th December 2007, 1:07am
Moulton   Above the fold, Wikipedia is a volatile compendium...   Sun 16th December 2007, 9:31am
Jonny Cache   I think that there is an important distinction bet...   Mon 17th December 2007, 1:56am
Saltimbanco   How is the latter background information, though? ...   Mon 17th December 2007, 2:01am
Jonny Cache   I have no idea what you just said. You are engagi...   Mon 17th December 2007, 2:48am
Saltimbanco   I hadn't thought we'd even gotten that far...   Mon 17th December 2007, 3:31am
Moulton   Perhaps this is a good juncture to rephrase the ob...   Mon 17th December 2007, 3:40am
Jonny Cache   Perhaps this is a good juncture to rephrase the o...   Mon 17th December 2007, 2:58pm
Jonny Cache   For The Master Of The Games On His Birthday Do we...   Mon 17th December 2007, 3:48am
Moulton   Pictures! Post pictures, please.   Mon 17th December 2007, 3:43pm
Jonny Cache   Pictures! Post pictures, please. Flash, and...   Mon 17th December 2007, 10:00pm
Moulton   A lot of what we are watching looks like Machiavel...   Tue 18th December 2007, 4:48am
Jonny Cache   A lot of what we are watching looks like Machiave...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:02am
Jonny Cache   Moulton, Here is what I find annoying, and it...   Tue 18th December 2007, 3:26pm
Moulton   Well, there's this model, adapted from a gener...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:11am
Jonny Cache   Well, there's this model, adapted from a gene...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:14am
Moulton   What about the producers of the show? They're ...   Tue 18th December 2007, 6:29am
Jonny Cache   What about the producers of the show? They...   Tue 18th December 2007, 6:44am
Moulton   The folks at Google are not boobs, and they didn...   Tue 18th December 2007, 1:37pm
Jonny Cache   The folks are Google are not boobs, and they didn...   Tue 18th December 2007, 1:44pm
Moulton   Please refactor that.   Tue 18th December 2007, 2:00pm
Jonny Cache   Please refactor that. Sorry, it's a prime i...   Tue 18th December 2007, 2:20pm
Moulton   Harrumph.   Tue 18th December 2007, 2:30pm
Saltimbanco   Producers? For the whole thing? No. Not because i...   Tue 18th December 2007, 3:49pm
Jonny Cache   Producers? For the whole thing? No. Not because ...   Tue 18th December 2007, 4:10pm
Moulton   I think it's a false conclusion. The producer...   Tue 18th December 2007, 3:54pm
Moulton   Compare Intelligent Design to System Design and Me...   Tue 18th December 2007, 4:11pm
Jonny Cache   Compare Intelligent Design to System Design and M...   Tue 18th December 2007, 4:20pm
Moulton   Well, we're back to original intended purposes...   Tue 18th December 2007, 4:23pm
Jonny Cache   Well, we're back to original intended purpose...   Tue 18th December 2007, 4:34pm
Moulton   What I see the system doing is tending, over time,...   Tue 18th December 2007, 4:46pm
Jonny Cache   What I see the system doing is tending, over time...   Tue 18th December 2007, 4:58pm
Moulton   You keep calling Wikipedia dysfunctional. Yes, it...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:03pm
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='68081' date='Tue ...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:15pm
Jonny Cache   [quote name='Jonny Cache' post='68081' date='Tue...   Tue 18th December 2007, 6:34pm
Moulton   I dunno who the mit-wearers are, nor do I know wha...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:19pm
Jonny Cache   I dunno who the mit-wearers are, nor do I know wh...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:24pm
Moulton   The compressed dump of WP will fit on a DVD and is...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:34pm
Jonny Cache   The compressed dump of WP will fit on a DVD and i...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:42pm
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Jonny Cache   The point being that pulling the plug doesn...   Tue 18th December 2007, 5:56pm
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The Joy   I think I understand what Jonny is talking about. ...   Tue 18th December 2007, 8:09pm
Moulton   That's my point. The drama takes on a life of...   Tue 18th December 2007, 8:14pm
Saltimbanco   I think Jonny, apart from not having named in deta...   Tue 18th December 2007, 9:16pm
Moulton   I tend to go along with the Lord of the Flies mode...   Tue 18th December 2007, 9:21pm
Jonny Cache   Moulton, Saltimbanco, Put Down The Remote !...   Tue 18th December 2007, 10:25pm
Moulton   Please refactor.   Tue 18th December 2007, 10:28pm
Jonny Cache   Please refactor. One thing that keeps the con g...   Tue 18th December 2007, 11:00pm
Saltimbanco   One thing that keeps the con game going is that t...   Wed 19th December 2007, 1:04am
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Moulton   Trust is a fragile thing. Once broken, it's v...   Tue 18th December 2007, 11:15pm
Moulton   Wikipedia may well be a confidence game. But if s...   Wed 19th December 2007, 2:19am
Jonny Cache   Wikipedia may well be a confidence game. But if ...   Wed 19th December 2007, 2:40am
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