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post Sun 18th November 2007, 6:47pm
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:07pm
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That is by far Durova's worst nightmare and as far as I am concerned, the vexatious nature by which Durova has operated will come to a swift end...now.

The nail was just tapped, then pounded into the Durova credibility coffin. It is long gone.

The vitriolic condemnation of Durova may appear shortly, but I suggest remaining calm and simply nod your heads. ohmy.gif

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QUOTE(msharma @ Sun 18th November 2007, 6:47pm) *


What a nutjob.

And of course Crum comes in, and under false pretenses (again, SlimVirgin II, Electric Boogaloo) rv's the evidence that can and will be used against Durova in the near future.

There was no privacy concern in those edits, just the concern that it makes durova look bad.

Someone needs to call Crum375 on his ongoing bullshit in that regard.
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:07pm
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It's just unbelievable that such an indisputably good contributor could be blocked without even a shred of evidence being presented. I hope this isn't the wave of the future, out of the blue blocks of good contributors based on secret investigative techniques with no opportunity for community review.
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:10pm
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QUOTE(everyking @ Sun 18th November 2007, 7:07pm) *

It's just unbelievable that such an indisputably good contributor could be blocked without even a shred of evidence being presented. I hope this isn't the wave of the future, out of the blue blocks of good contributors based on secret investigative techniques with no opportunity for community review.


Durova is trying to cover her Walter Mitty Delusional Ass now.

Claiming that for 2 weeks this "proof" was passed around the WP Noblesse Oblige, and only enforced when it was certain.

Of course, no one on the ANI page knows WTF she is talking about. They weren't in the wagon circle I guess.
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:11pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm..._of_User:.21.21


It is finished.

Will Jimmy come to the rescue? Not!!!!!

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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:12pm
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Someone's gonna get banned. Interesting that the thread is being archived for [[User:!!]]'s privacy, when no information about him was revealed. Privacy or merely hiding Durova's embarassment? Lol, not hard to figure out which.
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:20pm
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I don't get it. Someone was blocked because of secret magical evidence that nobody knows about, the evidence turns out to be faulty... and nobody cares? I mean, that's happened before, certainly, but never quite so blatantly...
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:21pm
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They can't ban the guy that wrote TWINKLE (though, on recent evidence, Guy might try). He's as untouchable as one can be. In anyone else, undoing that deletion would be a deathwish.


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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:22pm
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What's astonishing here is that an Admin not only admitted a mistake, but undid the damage.

That's virtually unprecedented in the annals of a dysfunctional bureaucracy.
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:23pm
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QUOTE(Amarkov @ Sun 18th November 2007, 7:20pm) *

I don't get it. Someone was blocked because of secret magical evidence that nobody knows about, the evidence turns out to be faulty... and nobody cares? I mean, that's happened before, certainly, but never quite so blatantly...


The only reason he was even unblocked is 'cause he has 100+ DYKs. Imagine how false positives that haven't been around for a while get treated. I bet their blocks don't even get questioned.
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:28pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm...idents#Followup


It sure looks like there is an election soon!

Politics as usual.
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:34pm
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QUOTE(KamrynMatika @ Sun 18th November 2007, 11:23am) *

QUOTE(Amarkov @ Sun 18th November 2007, 7:20pm) *

I don't get it. Someone was blocked because of secret magical evidence that nobody knows about, the evidence turns out to be faulty... and nobody cares? I mean, that's happened before, certainly, but never quite so blatantly...


The only reason he was even unblocked is 'cause he has 100+ DYKs. Imagine how false positives that haven't been around for a while get treated. I bet their blocks don't even get questioned.


Of course they don't. Why would Wikipedia want to be fair to newbies?
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 7:36pm
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QUOTE(Amarkov @ Sun 18th November 2007, 3:20pm) *

I don't get it. Someone was blocked because of secret magical evidence that nobody knows about, the evidence turns out to be faulty … and nobody cares? I mean, that's happened before, certainly, but never quite so blatantly …


I guess you never heard that story about Wiki-Pinocchio …

His Wiki-Proboscis Just Kept Getting —

longer
& longer
& longer
& longer
& longer
& longer
& longer

What people don't get until they have seen this trick a couple of dozen times — well, some of us get it after being fooled a couple of dozen times — it that this is precisely the way that the Big Lie is supposed to work, since people tend to get de-sensitized (what psychologists call "habituated") to each inexcrement in the size of the Big Lie, until pretty soon they are thinking that Pro-Bushkies that size are Normal.

Jon Awbrey

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"::This has been a tough call, but in my opinion a necessary one. I am very confident my research will stand up to scrutiny. I am equally confident that anything I say here will be parsed rather closely by some disruptive banned sockpuppeteers. If I open the door a little bit it'll become a wedge issue as people ask for more information, and then some rather deep research techniques would be in jeopardy. As I've said this before, take me to arbitration if you want to challenge this. I think I've said that enough times clearly - I opened this thread for exactly that purpose. More than half a dozen administrators have already seen this research. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Durova|<span style="color:#009">Durova</span>]]</font><sup>''[[User talk:Durova|Charge!]]''</sup> 17:16, 18 November 2007 (UTC)"

And of course, dissent is dissed because it will be from "banned users".

This stuff is right out of the East German Tribunal handbook.
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Q. What's the difference between CyberSleuthing and CyberStalking?

A. Well, there used to be a Wall between them, but they tore it down.

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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sun 18th November 2007, 7:42pm) *

Q. What's the difference between CyberSleuthing and CyberStalking?

A. Well, there used to be a Wall between them, but they tore it down.

Jonny cool.gif


Well, if Wordbomb does it, its the latter. If Durova does it, it's the former.
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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 18th November 2007, 3:43pm) *

QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Sun 18th November 2007, 7:42pm) *

Q. What's the difference between CyberSleuthing and CyberStalking?

A. Well, there used to be a Wall between them, but they tore it down.

Jonny cool.gif


Well, if Wordbomb does it, its the latter. If Durova does it, it's the former.


It's a well-known φact, and I have the evidentiary secretions to prove it, that Durova made a mint selling chunks of the Berlin Wall as Wiki-Pet Rocks.

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post Sun 18th November 2007, 8:16pm
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QUOTE(WhispersOfWisdom @ Sun 18th November 2007, 7:28pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm...idents#Followup


It sure looks like there is an election soon!

Politics as usual.


SWATJester's really piling in: "...what I've heard plenty of people saying on IRC....an editor so heavily involved in the SEO field, would use some "proprietary" investigative techniques on Wikipedia, ruin people's Wikipedia experience, and then refuse to provide any evidence to support the allegations out of a fear that those uber-valuable methods will become public...... Why are you sleuthing in the first place? Why, as it appears, is it your mission to hunt down other editors using private evidence?"

That's rough. Durova responds by complaining about IRC. And why not.
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post Sun 18th November 2007, 8:18pm
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QUOTE(msharma @ Sun 18th November 2007, 12:47pm) *


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%21%21

Can you figure out who this is?

What is a false positive?

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