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the fieryangel
post Sat 24th November 2007, 2:07pm
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Pop that popcorn and take your seats!


Private Musings brings up the not-so-secret "secret mailing list" here....

Wikidiots are already trying to put out the flames...

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Statement by uninvolved party Stephan Schulz (talk)

I would suggest to withdraw this request for now, or alternatively for the ArbCom to reject it without prejudice. There is a very active and productive RfC pertinent to this topic, and an action by ArbCom would be premature at this time. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 12:24, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Statement by uninvolved party Alecmconroy

I concur-- insofar as this Arbcom applies to Durova, it's entirely unnecessary. She's an "Administrators open to recall" whose set her limit at 5 users. The count that have requested recall/desysop now stands at I believe 20+, so a new RFA is a certainty.

To file an Arbcom case now, demanding a forcible desysop, is to Assume Bad Faith, in essence "expecting her to reneg on her recall promise". There is no reason whatsoever to suspect this-- she'll agree to a new RFA, and in all likelyhood she'll pass it too. I'd suggest withdrawing the RFAr, or at least withdrawing her from it. --Alecmconroy (talk) 13:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


Now, I don't believe that they're going to accept this for a minute....but it could get, um, interesting even if they don't.....

I think that Greg needs to add "FREE DUROVA!" items to his shop!

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post Sat 24th November 2007, 4:31pm
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He's a smart one. He gave the snowball the gentle push it needed (remember, he was the first guy to imply that Durova had broken protocol/wikietiquette/common sense).


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She has spoken!
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Interrupting a short wikibreak to make a statement here. It surprises me that this was initiated just a few hours after the RFC on my conduct got certified. I have always welcomed the Committee's scrutiny and continue to welcome it. DurovaCharge! 16:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


She's no stranger to the Ways of the Arbcom, she's used the get-out-of-jail-via-wikibreak card.

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QUOTE(cyofee @ Sat 24th November 2007, 4:31pm) *

She has spoken!
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Interrupting a short wikibreak to make a statement here. It surprises me that this was initiated just a few hours after the RFC on my conduct got certified. I have always welcomed the Committee's scrutiny and continue to welcome it. DurovaCharge! 16:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)


She's no stranger to the Ways of the Arbcom, she's used the get-out-of-jail-via-wikibreak card.


Am I the only one here who feels sorry for her? Take away her adminship, fine. But to have to go through a public arb com free-for-all; that's probably the worst punishment possible.

Jimbo did a horrible thing when he created Wikipedia's arbitration committee. And apparently it was intentional, because he hasn't even tried to get rid of it.
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post Sun 25th November 2007, 6:21pm
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QUOTE(anthony @ Sun 25th November 2007, 5:24pm) *

Am I the only one here who feels sorry for her? Take away her adminship, fine. But to have to go through a public arb com free-for-all; that's probably the worst punishment possible.

No, to go through what Poetlister and others have gone through on Durova's say-so is worse. At least Durova has done something to deserve it.
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the fieryangel   Durova_and_Jehochman Arb-com case is opened!   Sat 24th November 2007, 2:07pm
WhispersOfWisdom   Statement by uninvolved party Alecmconroy I concur...   Sat 24th November 2007, 2:35pm
the fieryangel   Userhu12 weighs in on the question : Uninvol...   Sat 24th November 2007, 2:43pm
the fieryangel   Yes, I have noticed that. He's really squirmi...   Sat 24th November 2007, 2:51pm
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