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> Odd nature, sockpuppet of FeloniousMonk, Arbitration Committee overlooks it
Proabivouac
post Sun 25th November 2007, 7:29am
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As the world gasps at the absurdity of Durova’s evidence against the “ripened sock” User:!!

http://www.wikitruth.info/index.php?title=...Sekret_Evidence

let’s not overlook another allegation of sockpuppetry, this one infinitely more compelling, involving not a purported WR troll, but the respected administrator FeloniousMonk:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req....B7_contribs.29

Now, I’ve absolutely nothing against FeloniousMonk. I recall him as a reasonable and capable administrator, who in this instance appears to be standing up to classic POV-pushing. He probably just lost it faced with the futility of a system in which content is decided by edit-warring and numbers, and, yes, sockpuppets on all sides (most of whom, it should be emphasized, are home-grown and have nothing to do with WR or trolls.)

But the fact is that FM has sockpuppeted, not due to privacy concerns or to escape harassment, but to gain an upper hand in a content dispute through work/home tag-teaming - the most classic and indisputably abusive use of socks.

And the Arbitration Committee does nothing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...Community_urged

Is it that they’re too clueless to confidently arrive at a decision, even with all this evidence (to which much more might be added?) Is it that they(like me, and probably many of us here) agree with the content FM and his sockpuppet User:Odd nature is pushing? Or is it that, as a well-regarded administrator, FM’s misbehavior has been willfully overlooked?

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post Sun 9th December 2007, 7:00pm
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FM (or MF as I like to use *grin*) falsely accused me of "sockpuppetry." Here's what I wrote for the Wiki noticeboard:

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FM has been violating WP:AGF and making baseless accusations against me. This started when he "discovered" that I had not been logging in to my user account to edit. (The story behind that is a long one, but to be brief, I am no longer regularly editing and have retired my username.) In not logging in, my IP address was used and, like many IP addresses, it is not static - the last three digits change from time to time - something completely out of my control. FM immediately started accusing me of sockpuppeting, ignoring AGF (which is strongly encouraged for admins here and for handling possible sockpuppets here). I have never denied I was still editing and never hid my identity for any reason. I readily admitted that I was Jinxmchue. This information, however, did not stop FM from continuing to make his accusation and claiming I was doing it do disrupt, avoid blocks, and to disassociate my edits with my username. I asked him to provide proof of his accusations, but he simply ignored my request and described it as "trolling." Of course, his sockpuppeting accusations were never officially made on WP:SSP (and it's not in the November archive, either), likely due to him knowing that the accusation lacked merit. Evidence for FM's behavior can be seen in the following links:


Links here.

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Furthermore, when admin Guettarda wrongly re-blocked me for supposedly violating an edit block (see here), I requested a block removal. FM (along with Guettarda) has been intimately involved in the issues involving editing an article which led to my initial block. Despite this gross conflict of interest, FM handled the block removal request (denying it, of course). Admins with the same agendas and POV working together like this to prevent their admin actions from being questioned and possibly reversed is simply astounding and should not be allowed. A neutral admin should have handled the block removal request.

FM's hostile attitude towards me is unacceptable (and I admit my hostile reactions towards his behavior were also unacceptable, but I don't have admin powers to abuse).


The whole issue of "disruption MF made was based upon my defending the rightful removal of anti-ID blogs as a reference from a couple of ID articles. (They didn't fit the very narrow definition of acceptable blogs under WP:V.) I was accused of "edit-warring" despite the fact that wars require two sides to fight it. No one else was held to the same standard, of course, because they were defending the inclusion of the anti-ID blogs.

So you'll understand and excuse me for taking exception to the portrayal of MF as "a reasonable and capable administrator."
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QUOTE(jinxmchue @ Sun 9th December 2007, 11:00am) *

FM (or MF as I like to use *grin*) falsely accused me of "sockpuppetry." Here's what I wrote for the Wiki noticeboard:

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FM has been violating WP:AGF and making baseless accusations against me. This started when he "discovered" that I had not been logging in to my user account to edit. (The story behind that is a long one, but to be brief, I am no longer regularly editing and have retired my username.) In not logging in, my IP address was used and, like many IP addresses, it is not static - the last three digits change from time to time - something completely out of my control. FM immediately started accusing me of sockpuppeting, ignoring AGF (which is strongly encouraged for admins here and for handling possible sockpuppets here). I have never denied I was still editing and never hid my identity for any reason. I readily admitted that I was Jinxmchue. This information, however, did not stop FM from continuing to make his accusation and claiming I was doing it do disrupt, avoid blocks, and to disassociate my edits with my username. I asked him to provide proof of his accusations, but he simply ignored my request and described it as "trolling." Of course, his sockpuppeting accusations were never officially made on WP:SSP (and it's not in the November archive, either), likely due to him knowing that the accusation lacked merit. Evidence for FM's behavior can be seen in the following links:


Links here.

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Furthermore, when admin Guettarda wrongly re-blocked me for supposedly violating an edit block (see here), I requested a block removal. FM (along with Guettarda) has been intimately involved in the issues involving editing an article which led to my initial block. Despite this gross conflict of interest, FM handled the block removal request (denying it, of course). Admins with the same agendas and POV working together like this to prevent their admin actions from being questioned and possibly reversed is simply astounding and should not be allowed. A neutral admin should have handled the block removal request.

FM's hostile attitude towards me is unacceptable (and I admit my hostile reactions towards his behavior were also unacceptable, but I don't have admin powers to abuse).


The whole issue of "disruption MF made was based upon my defending the rightful removal of anti-ID blogs as a reference from a couple of ID articles. (They didn't fit the very narrow definition of acceptable blogs under WP:V.) I was accused of "edit-warring" despite the fact that wars require two sides to fight it. No one else was held to the same standard, of course, because they were defending the inclusion of the anti-ID blogs.

So you'll understand and excuse me for taking exception to the portrayal of MF as "a reasonable and capable administrator."



FM and cohorts (OrangeMarlin et. al), that's their focus mainly and they seem to have a tight control on ID articles, regularly tag-teaming to keep things their way. They also seem to have some ties with Slim and JzG, but it isn't always so lovey-dovey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?limit=...&year=&month=-1
And by simply looking at contribs you can see the further muddying of the waters on Gary Weiss related material.
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Proabivouac   Odd nature, sockpuppet of FeloniousMonk   Sun 25th November 2007, 7:29am
Moulton   FeloniousMonk, Odd Nature, KillerChihuahua, Orange...   Sun 25th November 2007, 1:10pm
jinxmchue   FeloniousMonk, Odd Nature, KillerChihuahua, Orang...   Sun 9th December 2007, 4:57am
guy   Well, that explains a lot. Is anyone on that lis...   Sun 9th December 2007, 9:25am
Moulton   [quote name='Moulton' post='62199' date='Sun 25th ...   Sun 9th December 2007, 1:14pm
Disillusioned Lackey   I think Felonius monk is Lar. Both Felonius Monk ...   Sun 9th December 2007, 1:47pm
Amarkov   Looking at the workshop page, where the only peopl...   Sun 25th November 2007, 6:49pm
dtobias   Felonious Monk is the one who left this beauty of ...   Sun 25th November 2007, 8:18pm
tarantino   Felonious Monk is the one who left this beauty of...   Sun 25th November 2007, 10:41pm
Moulton   Thuggery operates at the bottom-most rung of the K...   Sun 25th November 2007, 8:50pm
Joseph100   Thuggery operates at the bottom-most rung of the ...   Mon 3rd December 2007, 12:25pm
Selina   he's always been one of Slimvirgin's croni...   Sun 25th November 2007, 10:01pm
The Adversary   FeloniousMonk is an admin we should have "rev...   Wed 28th November 2007, 9:42am
Moulton   Getting back to Tarantino's speculation that O...   Sun 2nd December 2007, 3:01pm
Joseph100   Getting back to Tarantino's speculation that ...   Sun 2nd December 2007, 4:08pm
tarantino   I'ts so asinine the countless hours, energy, ...   Sun 2nd December 2007, 4:42pm
Somey   It's a classic case of WP phrasing: "...o...   Sun 2nd December 2007, 4:46pm
Moulton   That was a good post, Somey. It summed things up ...   Sun 2nd December 2007, 5:20pm
Moulton   If FeloniousMonk works for IBM, then Odd Nature (a...   Sun 9th December 2007, 1:54pm
Disillusioned Lackey   If FeloniousMonk works for IBM, then Odd Nature (...   Sun 9th December 2007, 2:52pm
Disillusioned Lackey   If FeloniousMonk works for IBM, then Odd Nature (...   Sun 9th December 2007, 7:29pm
Moulton   You aren't suffering under the illusion that p...   Sun 9th December 2007, 8:18pm
Piperdown   [quote name='Disillusioned Lackey' post='65377' d...   Sun 9th December 2007, 8:29pm
Disillusioned Lackey   doing tracerts to determine an ibm employee consp...   Mon 10th December 2007, 11:22am
jinxmchue   And anything remotely related to ID - e.g. peopl...   Mon 10th December 2007, 4:53am


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