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| Moulton |
Wed 5th December 2007, 1:01pm
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From a comment on Jimbo's talk page... QUOTE New people arrive, having bought into the PR, edit for a while, and then either align with the ruling Cabal or get disgusted and leave. Anyone who dissents is accused of trolling, disruption, or not being here to write an encyclopedia. People get banned all the time, their talk pages are locked, with no discussion permitted within the community, and appeals only to Arbcom. To which I would only add that it currently takes about 3 months to get a Request for Arbitration filed after being blocked. I was blocked on September 11th (ominous date, eh?) and I finally managed to get a Request for Arbitration posted on December 3rd after many failed attempts.
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| Cynick |
Wed 5th December 2007, 1:08pm
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QUOTE(Jonny Cache @ Wed 5th December 2007, 12:46pm)  In prospect of that con∑ation devoutly to be 4stalled — we wish! — I propose that we scoop these 4 Hearsemen of the Hypocalypse with our own True2Life account. All you need is at least half a dozen individuals (using real names) to contribute a chapter to a book, plus an introduction, citations, and publish on www.lulu.com. You'll just need an editor to handle "house style" (the format of citations will be tricky since many will be URLs linking to Wiki diffs), but I reckon it would be a winner.
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| Moulton |
Wed 5th December 2007, 1:42pm
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Wikipedia purports to be a rule-driven system, so participating in Wikipedia is a little bit like playing Chess, Checkers, or Go. However, every move can be challenged if the challenger can cite a rule that the move violates. That makes every participant both a player and a self-appointed referee. As a result, the most experienced Wikipedians become very adept at gaming the system. Rather than participate with an ethic of crafting accurate articles in a responsible manner, they adopt the personal goal of winning the current match with the adversarial editor at hand. Of course the outcome of any rule-driven game is arbitrary. It just depends on which player is better at citing and exploiting the rules. When this practice is combined with the tendency to cherry-pick which reported claims found in the world's media to elevate to the unwarranted status of facthood, one finds a miasma of half-truths, misinformation, unwarranted inferences, and political spin-doctoring masquerading as verified fact.
Superficially, Wikipedia may look like a high-tech encyclopedia. But in many ways it functions as a Massive Multi-Player Online Role-Playing Game (MMPORG), not unlike Dungeons and Dragons. Guilds, cliques, and cabals battle it out on a daily basis. Like Chess, one tries to marginalize opposing pieces, or remove them entirely from the playing board. To survive on Wikipedia, it helps to be mean-spirited, evasive, and allied to a powerful guild that protects its own brethren.
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| Jonny Cache |
Wed 5th December 2007, 1:52pm
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τα δε μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε
        
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 5th December 2007, 9:42am)  Wikipedia purports to be a rule-driven system, so participating in Wikipedia is a little bit like playing Chess, Checkers, or Go. However, every move can be challenged if the challenger can cite a rule that the move violates. That makes every participant both a player and a self-appointed referee. As a result, the most experienced Wikipedians become very adept at gaming the system. Rather than participate with an ethic of crafting accurate articles in a responsible manner, they adopt the personal goal of winning the current match with the adversarial editor at hand. Of course the outcome of any rule-driven game is arbitrary. It just depends on which player is better at citing and exploiting the rules. When this practice is combined with the tendency to cherry-pick which reported claims found in the world's media to elevate to the unwarranted status of facthood, one finds a miasma of half-truths, misinformation, unwarranted inferences, and political spin-doctoring masquerading as verified fact.
Superficially, Wikipedia may look like a high-tech encyclopedia. But in many ways it functions as a Massive Multi-Player Online Role-Playing Game (MMPORG), not unlike Dungeons and Dragons. Guilds, cliques, and cabals battle it out on a daily basis. Like Chess, one tries to marginalize opposing pieces, or remove them entirely from the playing board. To survive on Wikipedia, it helps to be mean-spirited, evasive, and allied to a powerful guild that protects its own brethren.
No , the Standard Wiki-Party Line is precisely that Wikipedia is NOT a rule-driven system. I know this from the time when I knew the party line by heart and was often found catechizing it for the de-in-struction of other hapless brainwashees. If you want to be cute — and I know you do — you could say that Wikipedia is not a Rule Based System (RBS) but a Rule Debasing System (RDS). Jon Awbrey This post has been edited by Jonny Cache: Wed 5th December 2007, 1:52pm
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| Disillusioned Lackey |
Wed 5th December 2007, 4:21pm
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Wed 5th December 2007, 8:42am)  Wikipedia purports to be a rule-driven system, so participating in Wikipedia is a little bit like playing Chess, Checkers, or Go.
No. The Wikipedia MMPORG is like either: - OUTSIDE THE CABAL - Riding in the STAR WARS Millennium Falcon, dodging asteroids and evading space fire from attack ships of Darth Vader's goons.
- IN THE CABAL - Living in the Death Star, following the bidding of Darth Vader and his stormtroopers. Then you are ok, until he randomly decides to off you. But mostly you are safe there.
This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Wed 5th December 2007, 4:25pm
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