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Leading Wikipedia editor to visit Israel
Jerusalem Post, Israel -39 minutes ago
By HERB KEINON In an acknowledgement of the importance that the Internet encyclopedia Wikipedia has in shaping opinion, the Foreign Ministry is bringing one ...


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post Sun 9th December 2007, 6:41pm
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lovely.

he literally shows his ass on WP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Shankbone

Does WP really want the kiddies to see this sort of thing? And when did WP turn into "mygayspace".

Not that there's anything wrong with that in the right setting, but not on WP, its not supposed to be a socialnetworking site for any sort of orienatations ;-)

How is this "contributing to an encyclopedia"? And why has Ryulong (well, RU, David might be quite long, perhaps if you check this he might show you) not put the hammer of the wikideletionsavingkb's gods upon this:
User:DavidShankBone/BodyParts

Next item for consideration:

Have these "2" users ever voted on the same issue, or tag-team edited the same article?

User:Hu12
User:David Shankbone (formerly DavidShankBone)

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post Sun 9th December 2007, 6:50pm
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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 9th December 2007, 6:41pm) *

lovely.

he literally shows his ass on WP

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_Shankbone

Does WP really want the kiddies to see this sort of thing? And when did WP turn into "mygayspace".

Danny Wool's boyfriend?

QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 9th December 2007, 6:41pm) *

Next item for consideration:

Have these "2" users ever voted on the same issue, or tag-team edited the same article?

User:Hu12
User:David Shankbone (formerly DavidShankBone)

I'm not sure about that- the edits don't seem to coincide particularly. But as DL said he doesn't seem to have edited anything on Law or Finance so he may have separate accounts for the purpose.

There are NO Shankbones in Whitepages .
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post Sun 9th December 2007, 7:50pm
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I'm not sure about that- the edits don't seem to coincide particularly. But as DL said he doesn't seem to have edited anything on Law or Finance so he may have separate accounts for the purpose.

I'm sorry, but I suggested that someone else go look. I haven't looked. But if I did, that's what I'd look for. And do it fast, so as to avoid the usual WR-related WP-alteration

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There are NO Shankbones in Whitepages .


Shankbone is zeroa (shankbone), one of the components of the seder plate.

There's plenty about David Shankbone in Google, including New York city social networking things. Besides, if he's going to Israel and has his name in the media, it's probably his name.

No one lists in the white pages anymore. Esp. if you are a semi-public figure or female.

Lots of people don't even have fixed lines anymore - just a cell, which wouldn't show up in the white pages either.

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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 2:50pm) *
Shankbone is zeroa (shankbone), one of the components of the seder plate.

This observation seems to have gone by unnoticed, so let me elaborate.

On the Jewish holiday of Passover (Feast of the Paschal Lamb), there is a symbolic food symbolizing each part of the Passover Story. The Paschal Lamb is symbolized by a shankbone on the Seder Plate.

This is one of the few places in culture where the term 'shankbone' has any symbolic meaning.
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QUOTE(Moulton @ Sun 9th December 2007, 8:27pm) *

QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 2:50pm) *
Shankbone is zeroa (shankbone), one of the components of the seder plate.

This observation seems to have gone by unnoticed, so let me elaborate.

On the Jewish holiday of Passover (Feast of the Paschal Lamb), there is a symbolic food symbolizing each part of the Passover Story. The Paschal Lamb is symbolized by a shankbone on the Seder Plate.

This is one of the few places in culture where the term 'shankbone' has any symbolic meaning.


there is neither here nor there, but per antisocialmedia.net sleuthing, weiss used to go by "pascallamb" or "pascalamb" for an aol account on "usenet".

So did Shankbone adopt this surname as a meatspace name as well? If there's no record of it ever being used a real-world surname, it wouldn't be the first case of a flamboyant self-promoter taking on a stage name in the real world.

and what makes one a "leading" wikipedia editor? self declaration?

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post Sun 9th December 2007, 8:47pm
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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 9th December 2007, 8:41pm) *

there is neither here nor there, but per antisocialmedia.net sleuthing, weiss used to go by "pascallamb" or "pascalamb" for an aol account on "usenet".

So did Shankbone adopt this surname as a meatspace name as well? If there's no record of it ever being used a real-world surname, it wouldn't be the first case of a flamboyant self-promoter taking on a stage name in the real world.

What a bizarre coincidence. Both he and Weiss seem to have a connection to Fordham University. I can't find any record of a David Shankbone being linked to anything before he created his Wikipedia account in 2006.
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 9th December 2007, 8:47pm) *

QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 9th December 2007, 8:41pm) *

there is neither here nor there, but per antisocialmedia.net sleuthing, weiss used to go by "pascallamb" or "pascalamb" for an aol account on "usenet".

So did Shankbone adopt this surname as a meatspace name as well? If there's no record of it ever being used a real-world surname, it wouldn't be the first case of a flamboyant self-promoter taking on a stage name in the real world.

What a bizarre coincidence. Both he and Weiss seem to have a connection to Fordham University. I can't find any record of a David Shankbone being linked to anything before he created his Wikipedia account in 2006.


weiss has no connection with fordham whatsoever. that was part of his essjay attempt to try and pretend he is something he's not in order to gain higher ground of neutrality or expertise in controversial matters.

he was trying to appear neutral on judaical topics on wp by posing as a catholic. he ain't. he's also not in/from New Mexico as his Lastexit "alternate account" claims either.

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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 9th December 2007, 8:49pm) *

weiss has no connection with fordham whatsoever. that was part of his essjay attempt to try and pretend he is something he's not in order to gain higher ground of neutrality or expertise in controversial matters.

he was trying to appear neutral on judaical topics on wp by posing as a catholic. he ain't. he's also not in/from New Mexico as his Lastexit "alternate account" claims either.

Do you know where Weiss studied? Anyway, he clearly has a strong interest in Fordham for whatever reason due to his edits, so maybe Mr."Pascalamb" is a friend of Mr. "Shankbone"?

"On the Jewish holiday of Passover (Feast of the Paschal Lamb), there is a symbolic food symbolizing each part of the Passover Story. The Paschal Lamb is symbolized by a shankbone on the Seder Plate."
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 9th December 2007, 10:12pm) *

QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sun 9th December 2007, 8:49pm) *

weiss has no connection with fordham whatsoever. that was part of his essjay attempt to try and pretend he is something he's not in order to gain higher ground of neutrality or expertise in controversial matters.

he was trying to appear neutral on judaical topics on wp by posing as a catholic. he ain't. he's also not in/from New Mexico as his Lastexit "alternate account" claims either.

Do you know where Weiss studied? Anyway, he clearly has a strong interest in Fordham for whatever reason due to his edits, so maybe Mr."Pascalamb" is a friend of Mr. "Shankbone"?

"On the Jewish holiday of Passover (Feast of the Paschal Lamb), there is a symbolic food symbolizing each part of the Passover Story. The Paschal Lamb is symbolized by a shankbone on the Seder Plate."


according to weiss, he is an alumnus of Northwestern University in Chicago, degree in journalism. No graduate degrees noted, and no mention of a second career pursuing an mba at fordham, just 'criticising' Patrick Byrne on stock message boards and blogs for 2 years with his equal rights to point out how many testicles Byrne has, long before Wordbomb started on WP or with Overstock.

weiss is born and bred New Yorker. he is also a Bronx School of Sci/Math (or close to that name) graduate. Fordham is a very well known New York institution. I know these things because Mantanmoreland tells us so on WP.

If you're trying to paint yourself as a Jesuit/Catholic New Yorker, Fordham is the Notre Dame of NYC. This is also the same reason he chose to pick out a prominient catholic church in NYC to create an article on. As well as a BLP of a NYC priest noted for his Catholic-Jewish relations efforts. This is all to provide some wikistreet cred that his a noble and unbiased Martin-Luther-Started-Nazism efforts ;-)

although he forgot to log in once and gave away his DTCC second career. like a cat with allergies, he has more careers than walter mitty.

samiharris probably posted from a Northwestern IP, fwiw, in what appeared to be a similar "forgot to login" oops on an article with no edits for months, then suddenly a NWU IP followed by a samiharris edit. I forget what article, let me look up my old WP userpage to see the link.

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This article had no edits for a long time, then 2 posts within minutes http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=116670435 - one from a Northwestern University IP.....
, the other samiharris

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Funny, there is an epinions account named pascalamb that says that "Born to Steal: When the Mafia Hit Wall Street " is an excellent book- imagine that!!
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 9th December 2007, 10:25pm) *

Funny, there is an epinions account named pascalamb that says that "Born to Steal: When the Mafia Hit Wall Street " is an excellent book- imagine that!!


yes, that aol account is duly noted on ASM for much more than that. It was amazing to me what ASM was able to show based on an email address used in Businessweek over 10 years ago.

There are some very good reasons that ASM was able to come to its conclusions, and WP'ians think so highly of those facts they've decided to WP:IAR and call it rubbish. That's unspeakable and unlinkable.

But for Brandt, it's OK to run down draft card burning incidnets from 1969.
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Apparently he had a constipated cat named Sammy... did this cat have a surname?
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QUOTE(jorge @ Sun 9th December 2007, 10:38pm) *

Apparently he had a constipated cat named Sammy... did this cat have a surname?


it could have been a hairy cat named sammy. changed to "i" to protect the innocent kitty. LOL !!

when i followed through ASM's trails to those links, i actually became more sympathetic to the guy. i really don't think we'd be offering much to WR by going down that road here, unless its something that specifically points to WP abuse. Although the history of sockpuppetry and POV pushing before WP is consistent with his WP activities.

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True, there's no evidence he's done anything ill. Just seems amazingly happy cooperating with Wikipedia, to do fun things. Which is fine, except for that it's such a moral sewer, that anyone who does that is (unfortunately) suspect.
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QUOTE(Disillusioned Lackey @ Sun 9th December 2007, 10:46pm) *

True, there's no evidence he's done anything ill. Just seems amazingly happy cooperating with Wikipedia, to do fun things. Which is fine, except for that it's such a moral sewer, that anyone who does that is (unfortunately) suspect.


there's not much ill evidence any more, but old diffs show he went on a Link Spam rampage in 2006 to include weiss's latest book in any remotely related article, and to talk to himself (as noted by Thatch & Fred) to give appearances of "consensus" in very heated wikiwars.

This is very much doing ill in Wikiterms, and Wordbomb was quite right to point it out to slim. Who was quite wrong to pass on that "private email" to weiss, and superficially declare it meaningless on-wiki.

Of course Byrne having made Slimmy cry in nineteen eighty-something had nothing to do with all that, because we know SV isnt the kind of gal to hold 15 year grudges against people, like say, Pierre Salinger.
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