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Jenny Kleeman responds... QUOTE(Jenny Kleeman @ via return E-Mail, 6AM EST Thursday Dec 20)
Thanks for getting in touch. I don't think my reputation as a journalist would be enhanced by participating in the WR thread, but I appreciate you drawing my attention to it. There seems to be a degree of hysteria on the thread and I have neither the time nor the inclination to answer the barrage of questions about my identity, my sources, my experience and my beliefs that will inevitably follow should I involve myself in it.
Anyone is free to complain to my editor at the Observer, should they feel moved to do so. My original article was far longer than the one published, and it was cut down by sub editors into a shorter piece. Several paragraphs were removed, and I fear to the detriment of some of the sense of the article, which included a lengthy interview with Professor Bob Kowalski, Professor Emeritus at Imperial College. This happens sometimes. Even still, I stand by what was said in the published piece.
Thanks again for taking the time to contact me.
Best wishes
Jenny Kleeman
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 Robert Roberts Slim decided that leading british paper is not a reliable source Tue 18th December 2007, 8:34pm gomi In addition to the "Observer" they are t... Tue 18th December 2007, 8:50pm jorge
Now the Observer shouldn't be mentioned on [i... Tue 18th December 2007, 8:51pm  Disillusioned Lackey Well I think this was well done. (removing this o... Tue 18th December 2007, 9:38pm Proabivouac
Its the first decent thing SV has done in ages. ... Tue 18th December 2007, 9:52pm Disillusioned Lackey
[quote name='Disillusioned Lackey' post='68167' d... Tue 18th December 2007, 10:03pm thekohser
Well I think this was well done. (removing this ... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:13am Disillusioned Lackey
I'm throwing in my chip with Dan Tobias on th... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:24am wikiwhistle
Are you guys not aware that: Someone at Wikipe... Thu 20th December 2007, 1:09am Disillusioned Lackey
Lolololol Such papers wouldn't be so obligin... Thu 20th December 2007, 1:12am Disillusioned Lackey
This is the Guardian. Even The Sun wouldn't ... Thu 20th December 2007, 1:15am dtobias I don't like double standards. The WikiClique... Tue 18th December 2007, 11:22pm Proabivouac
I don't like double standards. The WikiCliqu... Tue 18th December 2007, 11:38pm Disillusioned Lackey
I don't like double standards. The WikiCliqu... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:27am jorge
[u]I'M JENNY KLEEMAN, I'M A JOURNALIST A... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:52am Amarkov I'm with Dan on this one. If Slim had done thi... Tue 18th December 2007, 11:30pm Moulton I agree with Dan, as well.
Consumers of Interne... Tue 18th December 2007, 11:39pm Proabivouac
I agree with Dan, as well.
Consumers of Intern... Tue 18th December 2007, 11:52pm Moulton I would be satisfied if an accountable admin assum... Tue 18th December 2007, 11:59pm Proabivouac
I would be satisfied if an accountable admin assu... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:03am thekohser
I would be satisfied if an accountable admin assu... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:22am Amarkov Anyway, if a leading paper has no issue with publi... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:00am Proabivouac
Anyway, if a leading paper has no issue with publ... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:12am Amarkov
[quote name='Amarkov' post='68202' date='Wed 19th... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:24am Moulton I don't think anyone really intended Wikipedia... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:33am Disillusioned Lackey
This was the crux of the issue that I fought. Wi... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:48am dogbiscuit
[quote name='Amarkov' post='68210' date='Tue 18th... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:57am Disillusioned Lackey
Anyway, if a leading paper has no issue with publ... Wed 19th December 2007, 1:31am dogbiscuit Well, I think it is rather amusing that they are b... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:06am Moulton Part of the problem is that a paper can legitimate... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:07am Amarkov We've got it. The person who wrote the article... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:34am Disillusioned Lackey
We've got it. The person who wrote the articl... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:42am Amarkov
[quote name='Amarkov' post='68213' date='Tue 18th... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:47am Disillusioned Lackey
No, that's not my point. There most certainly... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:52am Disillusioned Lackey
Rebuttal by Hewitt (which will never be as high ... Wed 19th December 2007, 1:09am dtobias
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AL... Wed 19th December 2007, 1:53am Derktar
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A... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:05am Disillusioned Lackey
What I think DL is getting at is that the "d... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:22am thekohser
...A Professor who has worked all his life for no... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:53am Disillusioned Lackey
Then, take it even further. The longer that yel... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:28am Proabivouac
What I think DL is getting at is that the "d... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:25am Disillusioned Lackey
So, to end censorship, it's necessary to supp... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:05am Proabivouac
[center][size=2]THE CENSORSHIP IS ON WIKIPEDIA
A... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:22am Disillusioned Lackey
The problem isn't the existence of the newspa... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:27am Amarkov Look, over there! It's a cow! Wed 19th December 2007, 1:18am Herschelkrustofsky
Excuse me, but who gives a crap about you?
May ... Wed 19th December 2007, 1:25am Moulton I'm probably biased about the case of Carl Hew... Wed 19th December 2007, 12:49am Amarkov After taking a few deep breaths...
I believe that... Wed 19th December 2007, 1:34am Disillusioned Lackey
After taking a few deep breaths...
I believe tha... Wed 19th December 2007, 1:37am Moulton The article in the UK Sunday Observer might well f... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:09am Moulton I think there is a good story to be told here, but... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:34am Moulton At this point, I would request that someone contac... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:55am thekohser
At this point, I would request that someone conta... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:05am Poetlister
I set out to do it, but I could not find an e-mai... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:10pm wikiwhistle
At this point, I would request that someone conta... Thu 20th December 2007, 1:13am Disillusioned Lackey
Me too- journalists especially ones from reputabl... Thu 20th December 2007, 1:18am Moulton Greg, she writes for the Business Section, so you ... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:36am Disillusioned Lackey
Greg, she writes for the Business Section, so you... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:40am Moulton She may decline to respond, but given that her rep... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:43am Disillusioned Lackey
She may decline to respond, but given that her re... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:45am Moulton It doesn't matter. We have an ethical obligat... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:47am Disillusioned Lackey
It doesn't matter. We have an ethical obliga... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:49am Moulton I'm not interested in writing a letter to the ... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:51am Disillusioned Lackey
I'm not interested in writing a letter to the... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:55am Moulton I accept that you do not understand or appreciate ... Wed 19th December 2007, 4:04am Disillusioned Lackey
I accept that you do not understand or appreciate... Wed 19th December 2007, 4:10am Moulton [quote name='Moulton' post='68294' date='Tue 18th ... Wed 19th December 2007, 4:34am jorge I don't think I have seen any negative coverag... Wed 19th December 2007, 10:46am jorge Doh, I forgot Seth Finkelstein ....the reason is t... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:06pm Disillusioned Lackey
Doh, I forgot Seth Finkelstein ....the reason is ... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:22pm Disillusioned Lackey
What I propose is not a strategic tack at all, si... Wed 19th December 2007, 2:08pm Moulton [quote name='Disillusioned Lackey' post='68354' da... Wed 19th December 2007, 4:59pm Daniel Brandt Don't forget that the managing editor of the G... Wed 19th December 2007, 3:49pm Piperdown
Don't forget that the managing editor of the ... Wed 19th December 2007, 4:07pm jorge
Don't forget that the managing editor of the ... Wed 19th December 2007, 4:08pm jorge
[quote name='Daniel Brandt' post='68371' date='We... Wed 19th December 2007, 6:56pm No one of consequence I think you should stop chewing on your aluminium ... Wed 19th December 2007, 7:49pm jorge
I think you should stop chewing on your aluminium... Wed 19th December 2007, 9:06pm wikiwhistle
So the article that SlimVirgin i.e. Linda Mack w... Thu 20th December 2007, 1:17am jorge
[quote name='jorge' post='68415' date='Wed 19th D... Thu 20th December 2007, 2:37pm Saltimbanco I wonder if any of Linda Mack's "friends... Wed 19th December 2007, 8:52pm Moulton
Why should there be any questions about her ident... Thu 20th December 2007, 4:14pm Poetlister
someone upstream wondered aloud if jennykleeman@g... Thu 20th December 2007, 4:28pm Moulton Perhaps she doesn't want to write stories that... Thu 20th December 2007, 4:33pm Poetlister
Perhaps she doesn't want to write stories tha... Thu 20th December 2007, 4:41pm Disillusioned Lackey
Perhaps she doesn't want to write stories th... Thu 20th December 2007, 6:02pm Moulton I'm a little confused. The complaints, upthre... Thu 20th December 2007, 4:46pm Somey I doubt that Ms. Kleeman is particularly biased in... Thu 20th December 2007, 4:57pm jorge
I doubt that Ms. Kleeman is particularly biased i... Thu 20th December 2007, 6:13pm Disillusioned Lackey What galls me is how she took the words of the ban... Thu 20th December 2007, 6:21pm jorge Look at my post above- is there any evidence she h... Thu 20th December 2007, 6:27pm jorge
Look at my post above- is there any evidence she ... Thu 20th December 2007, 6:30pm jorge Archive of Ms Kleeman's Guardian articles here... Thu 20th December 2007, 6:46pm Poetlister
Y'all have to remember that she's a freel... Thu 20th December 2007, 8:47pm Moulton I've closed my E-Mail dialogue with Jenny Klee... Thu 20th December 2007, 5:12pm thekohser Well, that was a whole lotta worthless. I've ... Thu 20th December 2007, 6:00pm Moulton Mebbe she'd be interested in writing a story a... Thu 20th December 2007, 6:12pm Moulton In all fairness, I doubt Jenny Kleeman has a lot o... Thu 20th December 2007, 6:30pm
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