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Anaheim Flash
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Sat 20th October 2007, 3:09pm) *

That's Jossi Fresco, press contact and spokesman for The Prem Rawat Foundation, and OWNer of several WP articles relating to his spiritual leader.

The articles over which Jossi exerts ownership include:-

* Prem Rawat

* Teachings of Prem Rawat

* Hans Ji Maharaj

* Divine Light Mission

* Elan Vital

* TPRF

* Ron Geaves

The most egregious bias in these articles relates to the use of academic references where only a very limited number of academics are permitted as ‘approved’ sources while others are wholly excluded. In effect a single ‘school’ of ‘religious scholars’ forms 90% of all the references allowed by Jossi and/or his two ‘team Rawat’ editors Rumiton and Momento. These scholars include Ron Geaves who has been a follower of Rawat for over 30 years – for a criticism of Geaves’ writing about Rawat see: : http://www.prem-rawat-critique.org/geaves.htm. That same website carries a detailed criticism of Jossi’s works - http://www.prem-rawat-critique.org/wp_rebu..._distortion.htm

QUOTE(Prem Rawat Critique.org)
The Wikipedia articles on Prem Rawat, his father, their supporting organisations and teachings are sourced on a very limited range of academics, with the bulk of references being made to authors who have links to the cult apologist organisation CESNUR[1], [2] Much of the Wikipedia material about Prem Rawat is based on an unreferenced biography published by Prem Rawat’s followers and heavily promoted on followers’ web-sites

There’s a thorough deconstruction of Wikipedia’s treatment of the Rawat cult at http://www.mikefinch.com/mj/art/md.htm

Jossi finally acknowledge he had a conflict of interest in 2007, though he doesn’t say what that conflict actually is i.e which part of the Rawat empire actually pays his salary or issues his contract. And although Jossi no longer edits the main article, he still actively admins anything he doesn’t agree with.

Although the wikidashboard shows critical editors have contributed to the Rawat article, assessment of the talk pages – endlessly archived – shows almost every contribution not from Jossi, Momento, Rumiton and from the now ‘deceased’ Zappaz, was challenged by those four editors, often on the most spurious grounds.

Jossi also promotes Rawat associates Linda and Alvarro Pascotto, writing them up at Article Hub http://www.articlehub.com/authors/Jossi-Fresco.html.
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Anaheim Flash   User:Jossi and the Rawat cult articles   Sun 13th January 2008, 12:30pm
Yehudi   Welcome Anaheim Flash. This looks like a good exa...   Sun 13th January 2008, 12:44pm
Kato   Lets just simplify things a little for the benefit...   Sun 13th January 2008, 3:14pm
Kato   Despite the very plausible claims made here that J...   Sun 13th January 2008, 7:11pm
bluevictim   Despite the very plausible claims made here that ...   Sun 16th March 2008, 11:05pm
Moulton   It's like being both a referee and a player.   Sun 13th January 2008, 7:43pm
guy   It's like being both a referee and a player. ...   Sun 13th January 2008, 10:18pm
Kato   Jossi has long been identified as one of Jayjg...   Sun 13th January 2008, 8:34pm
Moulton   It's a recipe for corruption, and few can resi...   Sun 13th January 2008, 10:22pm
EternalIdealist   From what I can find it seems that Jossi declared ...   Thu 17th January 2008, 12:17am
Kato   Many of the critical editors appear to be involve...   Thu 17th January 2008, 3:47am
EternalIdealist   Many of the critical editors appear to be involv...   Thu 17th January 2008, 3:54am
Jonny Cache   flippant lawsuits [color=crimson][font=arial bl...   Thu 17th January 2008, 4:12am
Anaheim Flash   Many of the critical editors appear to be involv...   Thu 7th February 2008, 12:28pm
Jonny Cache   Article previously discussed at: [url=http://wik...   Thu 17th January 2008, 4:04am
Derktar   And don't forget the Incredibly Ridiculous Es...   Thu 17th January 2008, 4:08am
Moulton   Motto of the Cabal of Trial Lawyers: "First ...   Thu 17th January 2008, 2:03pm
Kato   This thread forms the basis of a piece that appear...   Wed 6th February 2008, 11:13pm
thekohser   This thread forms the basis of a piece that appea...   Thu 7th February 2008, 12:06am
LamontStormstar   This thread forms the basis of a piece that appea...   Thu 7th February 2008, 3:42am
Kato   Looking at the Prem Rawat talk page, back in Decem...   Thu 7th February 2008, 10:35am
Kato   There's a discussion on the Conflict of Intere...   Thu 7th February 2008, 3:34pm
Kato   It just gets worse... Here's Jossi on User:Sp...   Thu 7th February 2008, 4:13pm
Jonny Cache   Look, Dudes et Dudatrixes, I think it's pretty...   Thu 7th February 2008, 4:30pm
Kato   Oh and I might as well point out on this thread th...   Thu 7th February 2008, 5:48pm
Kato   Jossi responds to Cade Metz http://en.wikipedia.o...   Fri 8th February 2008, 4:12am
Jonny Cache   Yes, but let's face it, Wikipedia is nothing l...   Fri 8th February 2008, 4:40am
Kato   Cade Metz hit the nail firmly on the head – and ...   Fri 8th February 2008, 5:23am
the fieryangel   Someone brought this up on Jimbo's page.... ...   Fri 8th February 2008, 10:48pm
sarcasticidealist   Someone brought this up on Jimbo's page.... ...   Fri 8th February 2008, 10:54pm
the fieryangel   Actually, he was blocked for a week for general ...   Fri 8th February 2008, 11:02pm
sarcasticidealist   [i]Au contraire, his post over at the Village pump...   Fri 8th February 2008, 11:05pm
the fieryangel   [quote name='the fieryangel' post='77918' date='F...   Fri 8th February 2008, 11:19pm
BobbyBombastic   I do not see anything strange at all in his behav...   Sat 9th February 2008, 12:12am
Proabivouac   I'm not certain who wrote these particular pas...   Sat 9th February 2008, 4:27am
Piperdown   Mark Devlin not only cannot edit articles on Metro...   Sat 9th February 2008, 1:33pm
Piperdown   .....and it's Jimbofficial. He doesn't hav...   Sat 9th February 2008, 1:56pm
tarantino   jossi has a firmer grasp on Rawat related articles...   Sat 9th February 2008, 2:55pm
Proabivouac   jossi has a firmer grasp on Rawat related article...   Sun 10th February 2008, 7:30am
Anaheim Flash   What insufferable nonsense. Insufferable yes, but...   Sun 10th February 2008, 9:43am
Proabivouac   Insufferable yes, but the process of legitimizati...   Sun 10th February 2008, 10:07am
tarantino   [quote name='tarantino' post='77996' date='Sat 9t...   Sun 10th February 2008, 2:38pm
Piperdown   The Two Year Timeout Factor (precedent: The SweetB...   Sat 9th February 2008, 6:16pm
Anaheim Flash   More revelations about "unbiased" source...   Sun 10th February 2008, 8:14pm
Piperdown   Has someone alerted the ever-vigilante Slimmy abou...   Sun 10th February 2008, 8:57pm
Kato   An arbcom case has been brought over tendentious e...   Sun 16th March 2008, 10:56pm
Jonny Cache   An arbcom case has been brought over tendentious ...   Sun 16th March 2008, 11:07pm
Kato   This guy gets it. A good post below from the ARBCO...   Tue 1st April 2008, 4:46am
Somey   Business as usual! Move along folks... nothi...   Tue 1st April 2008, 5:17am
Kato   Yes. When the Wikipedia gets me really down, when ...   Fri 11th April 2008, 5:50am
tarantino   After nearly a month of inactivity, they're cl...   Sun 11th May 2008, 11:24pm
Piperdown   why is this editor, Jossi, as freshly done below, ...   Wed 8th October 2008, 3:30am
sarcasticidealist   There may be a disclaimer on his sub-page (that an...   Wed 8th October 2008, 4:14am
Piperdown   [quote name='Piperdown' post='134688' date='Tue 7...   Wed 8th October 2008, 11:16pm
Cla68   [quote name='Piperdown' post='134688' date='Tue ...   Wed 8th October 2008, 11:49pm
Milton Roe   why is this editor, Jossi, as freshly done below,...   Wed 8th October 2008, 4:36am
Anonymous editor   speaking of this, an article on the Prem Rawat Fou...   Wed 8th October 2008, 5:11am
Piperdown   Some things never change. here, today, a WP a...   Sun 9th November 2008, 7:15pm
Piperdown   check out Jossi Fresco, PR shill for Prem Rawat, a...   Thu 13th November 2008, 12:57am
Piperdown   Top 25 mainspace article edits 1. Prem_Rawat -...   Thu 13th November 2008, 1:17am
Piperdown   Cripple Fight !!!! http://en.wiki...   Thu 13th November 2008, 4:46am
Cla68   Cripple Fight !!!! [url=http://e...   Thu 13th November 2008, 6:30am
sarcasticidealist   And, he is careful to arguably act within the COI ...   Thu 13th November 2008, 7:17am
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='Cla68' post='141281' date='Wed 12th ...   Thu 13th November 2008, 7:47am
wikiwhistle   [quote name='Piperdown' post='141277' date='Thu 1...   Thu 13th November 2008, 5:56pm
Cla68   [quote name='Piperdown' post='141277' date='Thu ...   Thu 13th November 2008, 11:56pm
Heat   Wasn't there a senior admin who is also a Moon...   Thu 13th November 2008, 4:16pm
Hipocrite   Wasn't there a senior admin who is also a Moo...   Thu 13th November 2008, 4:24pm
Heat   So really there's a crying need for Cultopedia...   Thu 13th November 2008, 6:00pm
Kato   So really there's a crying need for Cultopedi...   Thu 13th November 2008, 6:08pm
Heat   So really there's a crying need for Cultoped...   Thu 13th November 2008, 6:26pm
Piperdown   So really there's a crying need for Cultopedi...   Fri 14th November 2008, 5:58pm
wikiwhistle   So really there's a crying need for Cultoped...   Fri 14th November 2008, 6:01pm
Piperdown   People do know. I thought it had been made clear...   Fri 14th November 2008, 6:06pm
Piperdown   http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid...   Fri 14th November 2008, 6:28pm
Kato   I find Jossi's long term relationship with the...   Fri 14th November 2008, 6:39pm
Heat   Wikipedia is a cult magnet   Sat 15th November 2008, 3:56am


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