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QUOTE(jorge @ Wed 6th February 2008, 4:04pm)  QUOTE(Amarkov @ Wed 6th February 2008, 11:48pm)  Wikipedia is often compared to an MMORPG. But it's more like a huge paper RPG, where the GM is biased and the high level players like to gang up against everyone else.
The question is, do Durova, GeorgeWilliamHerbert and JzG really believe that Samiharris and Mantanmoreland are not accounts run by Gary Weiss, or, are they just liars? I particularly liked this retort: QUOTE The methods that have been used to pursue this deserve our principled opposition: ban evasion, malicious cookies, privacy invasion, etc. That is no way to settle anything and the Wikipedians who construe any merit in the substance of that accusation ought to have posted the RFCU themselves. They should also have either persuaded the individual to refrain from unethical methods or, at least, they should have declared their disapproval; failure to do so tarnishes the reputations of these otherwise upstanding Wikipedians, who ought not to be lending their credibility to underhanded endeavors. If someone wants to really pursue this, the letigimate method would be to post an analysis in user space detailing specifics from the public edit histories with diffs, such as this assertion that these two accounts answer questions that were posed to the other: where? when? how often? and for how long? Roll up your sleeves, dig through the diffs, and do actual research to give us a fair basis for discussion. DurovaCharge! 22:03, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
Spoken like someone who truly knows how to roll up her sleeves, dig through the diffs, and come up with completely off-base accusations against dedicated contributors to the encyclopedia. Fozzie, this truly is amazing how it's drawing out all the best Wikipedia has to offer, and apparently offering them about 12 feet of self-threading noose-quality rope. -- Man On The Scene (talk) 00:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC) Bam.
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Kato Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Samiharris Wed 6th February 2008, 7:17am Derktar
We should see what develops in the next week or t... Wed 6th February 2008, 7:24am Herschelkrustofsky When users are banned based on Checkuser evidence,... Wed 6th February 2008, 7:34am Lar
When users are banned based on Checkuser evidence... Wed 6th February 2008, 12:49pm  Kato
[quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='77419' dat... Wed 6th February 2008, 1:04pm gomi More evidence here of a double-standard. Slim, Ja... Wed 6th February 2008, 8:21am Viridae Eiting from an open proxy is not banned, the accou... Wed 6th February 2008, 8:54am gomi
Eiting from an open proxy is not banned, the acco... Wed 6th February 2008, 9:10pm Kato Oh deary me... :lol:
JzG swoops in...
* This s... Wed 6th February 2008, 10:46am dogbiscuit
Oh deary me... :lol:
JzG [url=http://en.wikipe... Wed 6th February 2008, 11:10am WordBomb
Oh deary me... :lol:
JzG [url=http://en.wikipe... Wed 6th February 2008, 6:16pm  LamontStormstar
If they delete the RfCU based on the convenient p... Wed 6th February 2008, 8:15pm  guy
I insist they also delete the entire article on [... Wed 6th February 2008, 11:07pm Robster Editing via open proxies may not be banned -- but ... Wed 6th February 2008, 12:11pm LamontStormstar You know I've seen enough socks banned for ans... Wed 6th February 2008, 2:39pm guy If they can't get a positive Checkuser they us... Wed 6th February 2008, 5:36pm Aloft Looks like the party has moved to WP:AN now. Wed 6th February 2008, 11:13pm Derktar
Looks like the party has moved to WP:AN now.
Qui... Wed 6th February 2008, 11:20pm  jorge The hypocrisy is quite incredible. If these accoun... Wed 6th February 2008, 11:41pm Amarkov This is an opportunity to get some experience poin... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:08am Kato Heerres[color=red]JzG
What? :blink:
[i]Judd Bag... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:09am Nathan Back when I was a lad I was taught that anythign c... Thu 7th February 2008, 1:34am dtobias WordBomb, if the user that started the Checkuser r... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:14am jorge
WordBomb, if the user that started the Checkuser ... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:21am  Derktar
WordBomb, if the user that started the Checkuser... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:24am   Amarkov
[quote name='jorge' post='77561' date='Wed 6th Fe... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:28am WordBomb WordBomb, if the user that started the Checkuser r... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:45am  Amarkov I'm perfectly willing to start a discussion on... Thu 7th February 2008, 2:52am  Proabivouac
I refer to my earlier point: I think pretty much ... Thu 7th February 2008, 5:28am   Proabivouac Mongo's request for a full sockpuppet report s... Thu 7th February 2008, 8:09am    Kato Why isn't this being handled by Arbcom? In the... Thu 7th February 2008, 8:30am  Aloft As soon as Weiss is gone, I'll be gone.You rea... Thu 7th February 2008, 7:19am Amarkov I would've been willing to bring it up, if som... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:23am Robster You could bring an ironclad case, with IP address ... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:30am jorge
You could bring an ironclad case, with IP address... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:43am dogbiscuit Entertaining as it is watching the usual subjects ... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:48am WordBomb
Entertaining as it is watching the usual subjects... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:55am  Derktar Let's not forget Fred Bauder's comment tha... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:56am   Piperdown
Let's not forget Fred Bauder's comment th... Thu 7th February 2008, 2:37am    Derktar
Let's not forget Fred Bauder's comment t... Thu 7th February 2008, 2:41am     Piperdown
[quote name='Piperdown' post='77583' date='Wed 6t... Thu 7th February 2008, 2:42am      Piperdown
I might just go digg up those diffs where ... Thu 7th February 2008, 2:14pm jorge
Entertaining as it is watching the usual subjects... Thu 7th February 2008, 1:12am Viridae
Eiting from an open proxy is not banned, the acc... Thu 7th February 2008, 2:49am Piperdown Viridae steps up to the plate and hits a triple. T... Thu 7th February 2008, 3:07am LamontStormstar It's likely Samiharris is the account using op... Thu 7th February 2008, 3:35am Derktar
It's likely Samiharris is the account using o... Thu 7th February 2008, 3:38am  LamontStormstar
[quote name='LamontStormstar' post='77595' date='... Thu 7th February 2008, 3:57am Piperdown Why lil GW couldn't get adminship
a - mantanm... Thu 7th February 2008, 3:38am Piperdown oh boy, G-Dett is in the WP:AN house.
Do not f-ck... Thu 7th February 2008, 3:47am Piperdown and wait til the sun also rises over Cla68's r... Thu 7th February 2008, 4:00am Miltopia Poupon is most certainly Hipocrite, there's no... Thu 7th February 2008, 4:24am Derktar
Poupon is most certainly Hipocrite, there's n... Thu 7th February 2008, 4:35am  Aaron Brenneman Slightly off topic
People often complain that Wiki... Thu 7th February 2008, 5:21am Kato I think people should certainly research the Gary ... Thu 7th February 2008, 6:19am Proabivouac
Yet the likes of JzG and others have consistently... Thu 7th February 2008, 6:37am  Kato
I'm afraid so. I would find it difficult to b... Thu 7th February 2008, 6:42am dogbiscuit
I think people should certainly research the Gary... Thu 7th February 2008, 8:33am  Lar
I think people should certainly research the Gar... Thu 7th February 2008, 1:23pm   dogbiscuit
But I think if WordBomb was socking in regard to ... Thu 7th February 2008, 2:17pm   WordBomb Excellent post. I did not take WR very seriously i... Thu 7th February 2008, 5:10pm    Proabivouac I find your vandalism… …both hilarious, and dr... Thu 7th February 2008, 6:48pm    Disillusioned Lackey
But this was Miami to Wikipedia's Havana, and... Thu 7th February 2008, 7:02pm     Proabivouac
But the rules are applied at-will and at the behe... Thu 7th February 2008, 7:11pm      dogbiscuit
... there is no discrete way to politely but firm... Thu 7th February 2008, 7:23pm       Disillusioned Lackey
... there is no discrete way to politely but firm... Thu 7th February 2008, 7:33pm        Proabivouac
I think you maid (sic) an unintentional joke, on ... Thu 7th February 2008, 7:52pm         Disillusioned Lackey
Right. But that doesn't help them any when t... Thu 7th February 2008, 7:58pm          Proabivouac
Wikipedia is routinely damaging to people for ver... Thu 7th February 2008, 9:54pm    Proabivouac
I'm not interested in veering off into semant... Thu 7th February 2008, 7:02pm     Disillusioned Lackey
Classically, yes, but it's also commonly used... Thu 7th February 2008, 7:04pm WordBomb [*]Take a look at [url=http://www.google.com/custo... Thu 7th February 2008, 5:43pm Amarkov I see that people are continuing to resort to the ... Thu 7th February 2008, 6:54am Miltopia Maybe it's just a hobby.
Maybe he just likes ... Thu 7th February 2008, 12:57pm Piperdown my insight into his mindset was looking at him tal... Thu 7th February 2008, 5:48pm Aloft Once again, Cla68 knocks one out of the park:
htt... Fri 8th February 2008, 12:30am LamontStormstar why's pouponontoast so interested in defending... Fri 8th February 2008, 3:05pm WordBomb
why's pouponontoast so interested in defendin... Fri 8th February 2008, 4:33pm  Piperdown So Gary gets away with abusive sockpuppeting again... Fri 8th February 2008, 5:45pm   WordBomb So Gary gets away with abusive sockpuppeting again... Fri 8th February 2008, 6:06pm    Piperdown
So Gary gets away with abusive sockpuppeting agai... Fri 8th February 2008, 6:12pm    dtobias
I predict that in order to avoid the ignominy of ... Sat 9th February 2008, 12:04am  Kato
Georgewilliamherbert (aka Jeff Albertson)
I thou... Sat 9th February 2008, 1:05am   One
[quote name='WordBomb' post='77851' date='Fri 8th... Sat 9th February 2008, 3:24am   WordBomb
[quote name='WordBomb' post='77851' date='Fri 8th... Sat 9th February 2008, 6:36am Miltopia Hipocrite is a BASITES troll of the worst variety.... Fri 8th February 2008, 4:24pm LamontStormstar The articles gary weiss controlled need to be comp... Fri 8th February 2008, 6:16pm Aloft http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid... Fri 8th February 2008, 11:51pm Alison
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldi... Sat 9th February 2008, 12:27am  Aloft
[quote name='Aloft' post='77931' date='Fri 8th Fe... Sat 9th February 2008, 12:44am   Alison
[quote name='Aloft' post='77931' date='Fri 8th F... Sat 9th February 2008, 12:50am Piperdown
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldi... Sat 9th February 2008, 12:58am Castle Rock Bentheadvocate has set out a pretty good alternate... Sat 9th February 2008, 12:31am dtobias Well, gay lovers might run afoul of this policy. Sat 9th February 2008, 12:45am Piperdown WP Folks, you keep on getting this part wrong:
La... Sat 9th February 2008, 1:25am Proabivouac
WP Folks, you keep on getting this part wrong:
L... Sun 10th February 2008, 9:17am LamontStormstar The things Wikipedia doesn't get. Let's se... Sat 9th February 2008, 2:51am
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