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post Fri 8th February 2008, 4:24pm
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Hipocrite is a BASITES troll of the worst variety. He's not so much pro-Gary Weiss as he is anti-Wikipedia Review, which he sees as taking a unified stance against Weiss.
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post Fri 8th February 2008, 4:33pm
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QUOTE(LamontStormstar @ Fri 8th February 2008, 11:05am) *

why's pouponontoast so interested in defending gary weiss?

The only connection between them is poupon supposedly uses proxies/tor and one of gary weiss's accounts were found to use proxies.

I thought the user:hypocrite guy who poupon used to be was just some mongo buddy trying to hide the 9/11 truth, not into naked short selling and stuff. I mean the guy isnt gary weiss... right?
Actually, I have evidence that Hipocrite lives in Wyoming, and MONGO admits working for the National Forest Service (which owns about half of Wyoming). Considering there are about 1,000 people in the whole state (+/- 500,000) one has to wonder if they might be the same person.

I would also note that from the beginning, Weiss has worked his way down the foodchain in his recruitment of protectors. Tell me this doesn't represent the various strata of the Wikipedia power structure:
  1. SlimVirgin
  2. Jayjg
  3. Jimbo Wales
  4. David Gerard
  5. JzG
  6. Georgewilliamherbert (aka Jeff Albertson)
    -----entering the non-admin layer-------
  7. MONGO
  8. EFKAH (Editor Formerly Known as Hipocrite) aka PouponOnToast


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post Fri 8th February 2008, 5:45pm
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So Gary gets away with abusive sockpuppeting again. And again. An again.

The sockpuppeting rules on WP are a farce.

He double votes and triple bully reverts.

He talks to himself. Crazy shit.

He proxies.

He takes out personal real vendettas on WP.
1 - Julian Robertson (lawsuit)
2 - Russ Baker (competitor for occupational award)
3 - Patrick M Byrne (internet wars started Jan 2006. Byrne publicly accused MM's friends/colleagues of yellow journalism and worse, before that in 2005)
4 - Judd Bagley. (If Judd was evil he'd sue WP for his name being slandered all over it)

I know I'm missing some of his targets.

He gets busted on it. His socks get quietly taken away to the "promise you wont post with your main bully account dear sir!" farm.

He main abusive account is let go free continually.

That is Total Bullshit. Total.

Mantanmoreland, I hope you are being "kept up nights" and "having a nervous breakdown". Phrases you used to badger me on WP. You have a self-projection problem, idiot. How's it feel to get the light shone on your abuse?

WP, does he get three strikes? What about the rest of us who didn't do anything wrong in the first place.


Christofurio has been curiously silent on this affair since he came out of the Wikicloset (to his credit).

If Russ Baker could be contacted and invited to WR, and Devlin, that would be really insightful. Robertson would have a gag order so no go there, lol.

I'm sure ArghCom would get some choice retorts from MM's industry buttie Christofurio on what they were doing on WP. That was one tag teamer that wasn't a MM sock. Rare occurence.

I wonder if Cade "Meet the" Metz reads W-R and is following this. Anyone feel another Register coming on?

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post Fri 8th February 2008, 6:06pm
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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Fri 8th February 2008, 1:45pm) *
So Gary gets away with abusive sockpuppeting again. And again. An again.
I'm not sure what you're looking at, but I think it's far too early to reach that conclusion.

Samiharris is gone, and Mantanmoreland is flapping in the wind. Even JzG, while still lying, is hedging.

I predict that in order to avoid the ignominy of being pronounced "Gary Weiss," Mantanmoreland will also bolt before the day is over.

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post Fri 8th February 2008, 6:12pm
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QUOTE(WordBomb @ Fri 8th February 2008, 6:06pm) *

QUOTE(Piperdown @ Fri 8th February 2008, 1:45pm) *
So Gary gets away with abusive sockpuppeting again. And again. An again.
I'm not sure what you're looking at, but I think it's far too early to reach that conclusion.

Samiharris is gone, and Mantanmoreland is flapping in the wind. Even JzG, while still lying, is hedging.

I predict that in order to avoid the ignominy of being pronounced "Gary Weiss," Mantanmoreland will also bolt before the day is over.


if sami was allowed to "retire" without a block (as I was done to), then MM was let off the hook. Butwill the WP community over-ride the few wikicompromised admin(s) who are letting this happen?

people have painted the reputation of their adminships into a corner and they wont let the facts get in the way. We saw that with the history of what happened to the One Day Wonder Wordbomb before all this, and the farce that was my block review.

even money says sami even went to a public wifi or a mobile ISP just to post today and continue the checkuser farce.

Did they use the same web browser versions, oh admins? you guys collect that info.

You're telling me that for as long as IP records exist, there isn't one instance of Samiharris editing from a non-proxy IP? From the same Verizon IP pool as MM?

There needs to be more (but privacy compliant of course) disclosure on what Checkusering those two accouts found.

Analyzing edit timing is nice and telling, but won't be enough to overcome the b.s. excuses that come back from Team Gary about it.

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post Fri 8th February 2008, 6:16pm
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The articles gary weiss controlled need to be completely rewritten.

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post Fri 8th February 2008, 11:51pm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=190063429

Heh. It's hard to keep things straight, isn't it, MantanHarris?
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post Sat 9th February 2008, 12:04am
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QUOTE(WordBomb @ Fri 8th February 2008, 1:06pm) *

I predict that in order to avoid the ignominy of being pronounced "Gary Weiss," Mantanmoreland will also bolt before the day is over.


I now pronounce you man and Weiss... you may kiss the sockpuppet.

I note that JzG said "I would be very angry and disappointed if Mantanmoreland were to be credibly identified as Weiss"... so, everybody who wants to see JzG angry and disappointed, get cracking on proving this identification credibly!
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post Sat 9th February 2008, 12:27am
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QUOTE(Aloft @ Fri 8th February 2008, 3:51pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=190063429

Heh. It's hard to keep things straight, isn't it, MantanHarris?


In fairness, I'd say he pasted that from an email of someone else's analysis of his editing, hence the error
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post Sat 9th February 2008, 12:31am
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Bentheadvocate has set out a pretty good alternate theory, way to think outside the box!
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Has anyone advanced the position that they might be gay lovers using the same computer, and one uses proxies so they won't both get blocked? just a thought. BETA 21:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
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post Sat 9th February 2008, 12:44am
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QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 8th February 2008, 6:27pm) *

QUOTE(Aloft @ Fri 8th February 2008, 3:51pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=190063429

Heh. It's hard to keep things straight, isn't it, MantanHarris?


In fairness, I'd say he pasted that from an email of someone else's analysis of his editing, hence the error
What leads you to believe that?

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Well, gay lovers might run afoul of this policy.
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post Sat 9th February 2008, 12:50am
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QUOTE(Aloft @ Fri 8th February 2008, 4:44pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 8th February 2008, 6:27pm) *

QUOTE(Aloft @ Fri 8th February 2008, 3:51pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=190063429

Heh. It's hard to keep things straight, isn't it, MantanHarris?


In fairness, I'd say he pasted that from an email of someone else's analysis of his editing, hence the error
What leads you to believe that?


Just a guess, really - I could see it happening very easily. I also suspect a lot of folks' inboxes are very busy right now ....
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post Sat 9th February 2008, 12:58am
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QUOTE(Aloft @ Fri 8th February 2008, 11:51pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=190063429

Heh. It's hard to keep things straight, isn't it, MantanHarris?


ROFLMAO.

It's hard to maintain a web of lies, and he always slips up. Tomstoner slip-up (finally getting airplay today).

I was very resistant to pegging Sami as Gary/MM. I was convinced that Gary was smarter than that, and like Christofurio, Gary had found another Journaslistisimpatico to play with. I was convinced by an IP edit before login slip up than Sami was editing from Northwestern U in Chicago. Maybe that was Gary visting the old school. NWU alumnus. That IP then Sami edit was on Short&Distort I believe, around 3/07. I'd detailed that on my Piperdown/1 subpage that had 150 views while undeleted on during my GerardScamBlock review the other week.

But I saw Word's IP evidence here. Samiharris is Gary Weiss. And we already know Mantanmorelad (aka Frankie "Byrne has one Ball" Darrow" on stock message boards) is GW from a litany of Varkala plus many more coicidences that are too many to be coincidences.

Who's crossed swords with Julian Robertson, Russ Baker, & Patrick Byrne, 3 diverse and obscure characters, on WP and in real life? Who's edited WP about Varkala, and Forbes from Varkala?

One man.

And he's dancing as fast as he can on WP.
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post Sat 9th February 2008, 1:05am
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QUOTE(WordBomb @ Fri 8th February 2008, 4:33pm) *

Georgewilliamherbert (aka Jeff Albertson)

I thought there was an article on Herbert at one point. Jeff Albertson? What?

http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showt...8671&hl
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WP Folks, you keep on getting this part wrong:

Lastexit is the sock that Fred busted, not Tomstoner. No one called MM out on Tomstoner until now.

Gary Weiss admitted on his blog (long gone) that he edited wikipedia along with his nephew who was "visiting" him. LOL. And they had to converse on talk pages instead of across a room. Someone sent me a link to that a long time ago, and it's gone daddy gone.

Lastexit claims to be an uncle of anohter WP'ian. He was also forced to put "alternate account" on his page.

That same day that Mantanmoreland put on his page that he is a nephew on another wikipedian. Which he later deleted.

This is all on my piperdown/1 subpage, as well as on the post I pasted here in the past 24 hours with the WP links to all of this.

DoRight is another SPA sock he never got called on either. Or Emilywelles, a foray into montypythonery.

For the post pattern trackers, look at

Naked City (TV series)

on WP.

as Tomstoner/Emilywelles, he edited that article. As MM, he started/edited articles on that shows's cast members. What with his Tomstoner show shut down the same time as his Lastexit (from Brooklyn! Get it?) show.

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The things Wikipedia doesn't get. Let's see...

* WordBomb has sufficiently done what wikipedia calls "heavily stalking" of the Gary Weiss socks so if WordBomb knows they're all one person, then you better believe they are.
* WordBomb has never been wrong about wikipedia stuff.
* WordBomb already has proof the accounts are one person based on what either Crum or SlimVirgin (I get those two mixed up) often call "IP catching tricks".

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QUOTE(Kato @ Sat 9th February 2008, 1:05am) *

QUOTE(WordBomb @ Fri 8th February 2008, 4:33pm) *

Georgewilliamherbert (aka Jeff Albertson)

I thought there was an article on Herbert at one point. Jeff Albertson? What?

http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showt...8671&hl

Them's the funnies, kid! Jeff Albertson is the name of "Comic Book Guy" on the Simpsons. There's another thread about that allegedly striking resemblance.
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QUOTE(Kato @ Fri 8th February 2008, 9:05pm) *

QUOTE(WordBomb @ Fri 8th February 2008, 4:33pm) *

Georgewilliamherbert (aka Jeff Albertson)

I thought there was an article on Herbert at one point. Jeff Albertson? What?
Sorry. Sometimes I project my formerly unhealthy Simpsons trivia prowess onto others. Jeff Albertson is the name of the character who runs the Android Dungeon on The Simpsons. I had previously posted this image to the Tar Pit, with the challenge to spot the subtle differences between the image of Albertson and GHW's self portrait:
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QUOTE(Piperdown @ Sat 9th February 2008, 1:25am) *

WP Folks, you keep on getting this part wrong:

Lastexit is the sock that Fred busted, not Tomstoner. No one called MM out on Tomstoner until now.

Exactly what WordBomb has been saying this entire time from his "morally depraved, but true"™ attack site.
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Gary Weiss admitted on his blog (long gone) that he edited wikipedia along with his nephew who was "visiting" him. LOL. And they had to converse on talk pages instead of across a room.

Just like administrator/puppeteer Orderinchaos, his ex-gay lover, and his ex-gay lover's new gay lover, all hovering around the same computer, taking turns logging in and communicating with one another that way - ArbCom let him off the hook, even after two of his socks being caught in a positive CU.
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Lastexit claims to be an uncle of anohter WP'ian. He was also forced to put "alternate account" on his page.
That same day that Mantanmoreland put on his page that he is a nephew on another wikipedian. Which he later deleted.

Sigh. How about this: I live in a refugee camp with 253 other people, all gay, hindu and related, using one computer. If you block my 253 socks, you're anti-gay, anti-hindu, anti-family and closed-minded. Did I mention I'm a triple amputee and a war veteran? What kind of people are you? Oh yeah, "assume good faith!"

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