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| Proabivouac |
Sun 10th February 2008, 1:44am
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G-dett and Cool hand Luke's sections draw attention to idiosyncratic "phraseologies" shared by both Mantanmoreland and Samiharris accounts, with Alanyst providing edit time analysis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SirFozzi...igation/SandboxThis looks promising, to say the least. What is needed is more of the same. Such evidence, in combination with a plausible motivation scenario, was enough to convict Oldwindybear straightaway, and, after much strife, convince ArbCom in the SevenOfDiamonds case: I bear no ill will towards Mantanmoreland/Samiharris. The few interactions I've had with him were entirely positive, and several of his friends I would call mine as well. But as the evidence approaches the overwhelming - as I sadly imagine it will - the deception that has been foisted upon the project, up to the very highest levels of authority, and the questions of corruption which inevitably follow from its recognition…well, this is serious stuff, folks. There's a lot of money and more than one real-life reputation riding on these issues. A serious shake-up is in order - blocking one retired sock isn't remotely sufficient. Anyone who might reasonably be expected to have known about this should be very closely examined. This post has been edited by Proabivouac: Sun 10th February 2008, 2:19am
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| Piperdown |
Fri 15th February 2008, 8:42pm
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QUOTE(No one of consequence @ Fri 15th February 2008, 8:23pm)  The Varkala Time Warp is truly a smoking gun and I suppose that people who are deeply into the controversy have known about it for some time, but as a casual reader of WR and a never-reader of any of the parties' blogs, I've never heard of it before. I am curious to see how Guy and Jimbo respond here, but don't be so "inside" yourselves that you assume that every fact you know was also known all along to all the Wikipedians involved.
It's been known to every Arbcommer 2006-2007, and up to the toppermost of the wikimost. They all read ASM religiously, and they all tried to make sure other WP'ians didn't. Now you know why. I found out, and verified on my own ability to click URL links lol, just by googling for few minutes. WP 'crats think we're stupid, us peasants toiling the article fields. I doubt Jimmyhat's flipflopping show, but I do believe his statement that he and MM don't get along. I would imagine that his first interaction was a legal threat, based on what i can see happened during the oct-nov 2006 GW article AFD cover-up. I am reading between the lines, and guessing what i would have done if I were GW. It's all so agatha christie.... This post has been edited by Piperdown: Fri 15th February 2008, 8:46pm
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Proabivouac Sir Fozzie's investigation Sun 10th February 2008, 1:44am Peter Damian
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I agree. Ironically, I don't think I should b... Sun 10th February 2008, 9:31pm   Amarkov
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Well, yes, they could demand to check your credit... Sun 10th February 2008, 10:36pm WordBomb
Well, yes, they [i]could demand to check your cre... Sun 10th February 2008, 10:51pm WhispersOfWisdom ^ This, of course, is the reason why KNOL and MSFT... Sun 10th February 2008, 11:17pm Moulton I said a long time ago that the players with deep... Mon 11th February 2008, 4:01pm Proabivouac From Alanyst and Cool Hand Luke:
"removing/rv... Mon 11th February 2008, 4:55am The Wales Hunter He's trying to use technicalities to get out o... Wed 13th February 2008, 12:28am Kato According to Morven, Mantanmoreland has a good cas... Wed 13th February 2008, 12:42am The Wales Hunter You're not the only one who is sitting here, s... Wed 13th February 2008, 12:50am Poetlister
Mantanmoreland is now claiming there is no disput... Wed 13th February 2008, 1:14pm Kato My God. He did say "lack of a dispute". ... Wed 13th February 2008, 12:55am Achromatic
My God. He did say "lack of a dispute".... Wed 13th February 2008, 12:57am Somey My God. He did say "lack of a dispute". ... Wed 13th February 2008, 1:22am Proabivouac
Morven, though... that's a pretty stupid move... Wed 13th February 2008, 1:51am  LamontStormstar
Um, no, nice try…User:Samiharris is still editi... Wed 13th February 2008, 2:01am   The Wales Hunter
Um, no, nice try…User:Samiharris is still edit... Wed 13th February 2008, 2:02am    Achromatic
Although they did manage to "retire" fr... Wed 13th February 2008, 3:08am The Wales Hunter http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid... Wed 13th February 2008, 1:27am The Wales Hunter MONGO has agreed with Morven's view :lol: Wed 13th February 2008, 1:56am Proabivouac
MONGO has agreed with Morven's view :lol:
I ... Wed 13th February 2008, 6:08am  Kato
Mantanmoreland abused the harassment meme to suck... Wed 13th February 2008, 9:57am Viridae
Although they did manage to "retire" f... Wed 13th February 2008, 5:26am Kato Jimbo writes on Wikiback
Just to follow up.
I ha... Wed 13th February 2008, 9:17am Proabivouac Just to follow up.
I have my own opinions and beli... Wed 13th February 2008, 10:15am Error59 If Weiss had any balls, he would wait until SirFoz... Wed 13th February 2008, 11:00am Piperdown
If Weiss had any balls
Ironically, ask Mantamor... Wed 13th February 2008, 1:53pm The Wales Hunter A problem here is that if Mantanmoreland admits he... Wed 13th February 2008, 12:01pm The Wales Hunter Jimbo has now been reported to AN/I regarding the ... Wed 13th February 2008, 1:25pm Piperdown The elephant in the room - Yesterday Wikipedian us... Wed 13th February 2008, 1:34pm thekohser I didn't think I'd ever have anything to d... Wed 13th February 2008, 2:12pm  WordBomb
I didn't think I'd ever have anything to ... Wed 13th February 2008, 2:21pm  Piperdown my first take on the Kohsers activity on WP when I... Wed 13th February 2008, 2:28pm The Wales Hunter Response:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit... Wed 13th February 2008, 2:44pm Piperdown gary is sami is mantan is tomstoner is lastexit is... Wed 13th February 2008, 3:03pm Aloft I am not Samiharris, and neither I nor Samiharris ... Wed 13th February 2008, 3:37pm The Wales Hunter The RFC looks like it's turning towards real-l... Wed 13th February 2008, 3:48pm The Wales Hunter Tomstoner blocked as sockpuppet
http://en.wikiped... Wed 13th February 2008, 5:21pm Piperdown
Tomstoner blocked as sockpuppet
http://en.wikipe... Wed 13th February 2008, 5:38pm One This is moving really fast. I usually have somethi... Wed 13th February 2008, 7:09pm The Wales Hunter http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid... Wed 13th February 2008, 7:23pm One I have a bad feeling about this:
http://en.wikipe... Wed 13th February 2008, 7:59pm thekohser
I have a bad feeling about this:
http://en.wikip... Thu 14th February 2008, 2:52am The Wales Hunter Agreed. He'll get away with it. Someone like W... Wed 13th February 2008, 8:07pm Piperdown
Agreed. He'll get away with it. Someone like ... Wed 13th February 2008, 8:12pm WordBomb
Agreed. He'll get away with it. Someone like ... Wed 13th February 2008, 8:19pm Piperdown here's a clue, WP'ians, and for a growing ... Wed 13th February 2008, 8:23pm WhispersOfWisdom A kids version of peek-a-boo. How lame.
Anyone... Wed 13th February 2008, 8:25pm The Wales Hunter It's reached Arbcom. About the fifth venue in ... Wed 13th February 2008, 9:48pm Piperdown
It's reached Arbcom. About the fifth venue in... Wed 13th February 2008, 10:16pm One Yeah, I suspect ArbCom will produce something mutu... Wed 13th February 2008, 10:32pm LamontStormstar Most of gary's socks use famous people's r... Thu 14th February 2008, 8:20am Cedric Well, well! Isn't this precious!:
T... Thu 14th February 2008, 2:09pm  Achromatic The biggest word for me in Jimbo's quote is ... Thu 14th February 2008, 5:13pm Piperdown jimbo blanked the Fall 2006 [Gary Weiss] AFD debat... Thu 14th February 2008, 2:17pm The Wales Hunter But Jimbo admitting he had suspicion at least is s... Thu 14th February 2008, 2:17pm Piperdown what's my smoking gun, among many, is Varkala
... Thu 14th February 2008, 2:26pm One Holy shit. I know you guys have seen this before, ... Thu 14th February 2008, 2:52pm Piperdown
Holy shit. I know you guys have seen this before,... Thu 14th February 2008, 2:56pm WordBomb Holy shit. I know you guys have seen this before, ... Thu 14th February 2008, 3:59pm The Wales Hunter Things are moving fast.
Who will be the first to ... Thu 14th February 2008, 3:02pm Kato The conclusive edits for me were Mantan's occa... Thu 14th February 2008, 4:19pm The Wales Hunter They could take the Arbcom on a field trip to Weis... Thu 14th February 2008, 4:22pm Piperdown
I am disturbed by the thought that Sami and MM ar... Thu 14th February 2008, 4:31pm  The Wales Hunter
I am disturbed by the thought that Sami and MM a... Thu 14th February 2008, 4:45pm   WordBomb Also, MM's eagerness to have both accounts ans... Thu 14th February 2008, 5:20pm The Wales Hunter Arbcom has opened:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W... Thu 14th February 2008, 11:16pm guy The question is: have they both edited Twinkle Twi... Fri 15th February 2008, 12:36am The Wales Hunter WordBomb is SamiHarris :lol:
From Thatcher:
htt... Fri 15th February 2008, 12:48am WordBomb
[b]NO WAY.
NO WAY he actually wrote that!
L... Fri 15th February 2008, 2:24am The Wales Hunter Jimbo gives his evidence:
Evidence presented by J... Fri 15th February 2008, 2:37am Proabivouac Unbelievable.
These folks mimic to the point of p... Fri 15th February 2008, 2:46am Moulton Ultimately, what to believe or disbelieve comes do... Fri 15th February 2008, 4:08am guy Compare the treatment of Poetlister, where the evi... Fri 15th February 2008, 12:02pm Poetlister This and the JoshuaZ case. Yes, I voted the same ... Fri 15th February 2008, 1:18pm Piperdown
Enjoy, everybody, perhaps we should all club toge... Fri 15th February 2008, 6:41pm   guy
The Varkala Time Warp is truly a smoking gun and ... Fri 15th February 2008, 9:04pm The Wales Hunter So the evidence that (should) piece Weiss and Mant... Fri 15th February 2008, 6:49pm Piperdown
So it seems the evidence that (should) piece Weis... Fri 15th February 2008, 6:52pm
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