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> MarkSweep up at RFAR
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post Mon 6th March 2006, 2:20am
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MarkSweep has finally been brought to ArbCom. Ironically enough, by Ms Kelly Martin.

Provisional page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...kSweep.2C_et_al
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post Mon 6th March 2006, 3:40am
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And once again, I'm being railroaded.
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post Sun 19th March 2006, 6:52am
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So what?
What a lame topic.
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post Sun 19th March 2006, 7:44am
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Jesus, more userbox bullshit? I'm glad I stayed out of that.
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post Sun 19th March 2006, 8:53am
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The evidence page remains:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req..._et_al/Evidence

and the case is still running, new address here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...kSweep%2C_et_al

What's the bet that the regular Wikipedia Review poster will get screwed over.

Same thing happened to Karmafist, so there's a precedent set now.
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post Fri 24th March 2006, 10:33am
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Big deal!
What a loser NSLE is. This pro-Wikipedia admin must've an agenda in creating an account here.
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post Fri 24th March 2006, 3:35pm
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Thanks batfink crazy Gerard. Assuming of course that you're David Gerard. Anyway, I hope that you have an entertaining time here.
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post Fri 24th March 2006, 7:24pm
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he's been here for ages
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post Tue 4th April 2006, 1:03am
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They've passed their "remedy" against me.

"For his poor judgment, uncommunicativeness, wheel warring, and other misuses of administrator tools including rollback and blocking powers, Guanaco is desysopped. In view of his previous desysopping, he may not request to have his adminship restored."
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post Tue 4th April 2006, 1:18am
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I'm enjoying how the ArbCom can't decide on what to do with MarkSweep. He clearly abused his powers, however due to a lack of history they're debating on whether he should or shouldn't be desysopped. Sadly they seem to have missed his previous deletion sprees of userboxes...at least it looks like if he does keep his adminship, he'll be banned from touching userboxes.

Sorry Guanaco, I really think they were way too harsh on you. You've got to first pass thorugh the ArbCom hurdle to get the right back to reapply. At least that'll silence some of the critics on RfA who'll use the ArbCom case against you.
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post Tue 4th April 2006, 1:22am
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I still have an appeal to Jimbo outstanding.
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post Tue 4th April 2006, 1:30am
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I do feel it was harsh on Guanaco as well, and perhaps they felt they could put down a harsher punishment than was necessary due to his previous infringements. Ridiculous.
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post Tue 4th April 2006, 6:54am
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At a minimum, he should be allowed to apply for re-sysopping. I mean, can they ban someone from being an admin? That seems to be rather stupid.

But then again, they banned Everyking from commenting on admin decisions, which is equally as stupid.
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post Tue 4th April 2006, 7:24am
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Guanaco, Everyking, and Karmafist are "unpopular" admins. Any admins who don't agree with the status quo, and are vocal enough about it, sometimes get hitlisted by the Cabal. It's obvious that Raul654 does not think highly of Guanaco. Everyking and Snowspinner Phil Sandifer have been in numerous disputes, and the Cabal thinks more highly of Phil than of Everyking. Look at some of the frequent personal attacks and uncivil statements that Phil makes, for instance. He is rarely ever warned for it, much less blocked.

On the other hand, were another user who was not a lapdog were to make such statements, they'd quite possibly be blocked without warning.

The Cabal makes decisions based on who they like and who they do not. The Cabal likes Marksweep. They do not like Guanaco.
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post Tue 4th April 2006, 8:02am
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They also like some regular editors, like Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters and Antaeus Feldspar, who get away with murder. Yet when others do even the slightest unpopular thing, like say Mistress Selina Kyle, they get themselves blocked.

Lulu and Antaeus are very unpopular users, but loved by the cabal. If they weren't, I am quite sure they'd both have been on the indef banned list long ago.
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post Tue 4th April 2006, 8:15am
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That's because [[WP:BITE]] (Don't bite the newbies) doesn't, in fact, exist in practice, and [[WP:AGF]] only applies to the group that is Cabal-Approved™.

As I've said before, there is another corrollary to Raul's first Law.

Raul's First Law Much of Wikipedia's content, and all of the day to day functions are overseen by a small core of the most dedicated contributors. These users are the most valuable resource Wikipedia has.
Corollary - Of these highly dedicated users who have left, the vast majority left as a result of trolls, vandals, and/or POV warriors - typically not as a result of any one particular user, but from the combined stress of dealing with many of them. Consequently, such problem users should be viewed as Wikipedia's biggest handicap.
Aardvark's Corollary - There inevitably comes a point when those who believe themselves to be in the first group will assume that users who disagree with their actions strongly enough must belong to the second group.
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post Tue 4th April 2006, 9:26am
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Ah yes, like Rick K, who left apparently because he was being harassed by a few regular level editors, who he wanted to ban, but couldn't get them banned.
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