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The Wales Hunter
post Thu 14th February 2008, 3:43pm
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Not sure if this is posted elsewhere, but in Poop's userpages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PouponOnToast/arb

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Illegal naked short selling is fraud. It is the creation of a sale transaction, for which the buyer's funds are taken, but no product is delivered. Apologists for the practice seek to introduce a number of straw man arguments, none of which address the core fraud in the practice, which as noted before, is illegal in all but a few instances - such as market maker exemptions.

It is difficult to argue with a straight face that there are benefits for the market to be had by defrauding investors, however that doesn't stop the perpetrators of the practice from advancing arguments supporting the practice. Some common arguments are that naked short selling is good for the market, as it can be used to combat other fraudulent activity, such as pump and dump schemes, where promoters pump a stock's value above fair value. It is simple to see the logical fallacy here, as it really argues that one fraud can be countered by allowing a different fraud - the "two wrongs make a right" fallacy.

Another canard that is floated by apologists for the illegal variant is that it increases liquidity, which is an argument that says that by increasing the amount of fraud, you increase the amount of trading, which increases the ability to buy and sell easily, and decreases spreads. Again, this argues for allowing investors to be defrauded, as the benefits to an efficient market in trading these frauds are supposed to outweigh the damage from the fraud itself.

Current legal naked shorting rules allow brokerages to make large profits doing "bona-fide market making" while stock markets are falling. The market maker exemption to the rules governing the practice is intended to allow market makers to naked short sell on a very temporary basis, in order to increase liquidity and stabilize markets. When this practice extends for more than a few days, it too crosses over from the legal variant, to the illegal variant - fraud.

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post Mon 30th August 2010, 4:56pm
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QUOTE(Castle Rock @ Mon 11th February 2008, 8:56pm) *
QUOTE(Piperdown @ Mon 11th February 2008, 4:49pm) *
QUOTE(tarantino @ Tue 12th February 2008, 12:44am) *
Many suspect he is a Hipocrite who vanished after a Java Virtual Machine predicted a lawsuit in his future.
Do tell.
Ha! Hipocrite ran afoul of Jeffrey Vernon Merkey who is only able to communicate in legal threats

Tarantino, what do you make of this? Is there a deeper connection between Poupon and OrangeMarlin than has previously been suspected?

Note also this subpage of Poupon, which links to this very thread. (And for completeness, we also note that Poupon was doing research on medical articles discussing Homeopathy, concerned about naked short selling, and otherwise becoming fed up in general.)

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post Mon 30th August 2010, 7:47pm
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QUOTE(The Wales Hunter @ Thu 14th February 2008, 8:43am) *

Not sure if this is posted elsewhere, but in Poop's userpages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:PouponOnToast/arb

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Illegal naked short selling is fraud.



PouponOnToast claimed to have a Ph.D. in economics.

Some early edits by Hipocrite were to the Wikipedia Investment banking article. He was comfortable referring to the "Glass-Steagall Act" as "G-S".

Hipocrite (also editing as "JBKramer", 64.95.38.193) had a serious interest in John Lott. I wonder if they have a real life connection.
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post Mon 30th August 2010, 9:41pm
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Very likely, John Lott was his thesis advisor in Economics. Has anyone looked up his Ph.D?
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post Tue 31st August 2010, 2:07am
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QUOTE(JWSchmidt @ Mon 30th August 2010, 7:47pm) *


PouponOnToast claimed to have a Ph.D. in economics.

Some early edits by Hipocrite were to the Wikipedia Investment banking article. He was comfortable referring to the "Glass-Steagall Act" as "G-S".

Hipocrite (also editing as "JBKramer", 64.95.38.193) had a serious interest in John Lott. I wonder if they have a real life connection.


Daniel logged Hipocrite's IP address once. It was from a netblock owned by Infinium Capital Management.

QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:56pm) *

Tarantino, what do you make of this? Is there a deeper connection between Poupon and OrangeMarlin than has previously been suspected?


Hipocrite and PouponOnToast edited mostly between 1200 and 2300 UTC. Orangemarlin edited mainly between 1400 and 800 UTC , claimed a medical degree and said he lives in Santa Barbara. He has accounts elsewhere that predate his wp involvement that say the same thing.
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post Fri 1st October 2010, 12:56am
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Tue 31st August 2010, 2:07am) *

QUOTE(JWSchmidt @ Mon 30th August 2010, 7:47pm) *


PouponOnToast claimed to have a Ph.D. in economics.

Some early edits by Hipocrite were to the Wikipedia Investment banking article. He was comfortable referring to the "Glass-Steagall Act" as "G-S".

Hipocrite (also editing as "JBKramer", 64.95.38.193) had a serious interest in John Lott. I wonder if they have a real life connection.


Daniel logged Hipocrite's IP address once. It was from a netblock owned by Infinium Capital Management.

QUOTE(Moulton @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:56pm) *

Tarantino, what do you make of this? Is there a deeper connection between Poupon and OrangeMarlin than has previously been suspected?


Hipocrite and PouponOnToast edited mostly between 1200 and 2300 UTC. Orangemarlin edited mainly between 1400 and 800 UTC , claimed a medical degree and said he lives in Santa Barbara. He has accounts elsewhere that predate his wp involvement that say the same thing.



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