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post Wed 5th March 2008, 5:38am
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Wed 5th March 2008, 4:31pm) *

JzG is the Anton Chigurh of Wikipedia. He won't change at all. He didn't change when others attempted dispute resolution with him before, and he seems more determined than ever to ignore whatever advice is given to him. He is invincible with his posse of supporters.

Say, Viridae, I never pictured you as a Tommy Lee Jones. wink.gif


Haha - thats really Cla68's role I am assuming. (now I am going to have to watch that movie)
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post Wed 5th March 2008, 5:55am
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QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 5th March 2008, 12:38am) *

Haha - thats really Cla68's role I am assuming. (now I am going to have to watch that movie)


Me too.

Is there anyone on WP that JzG trusts wholeheartedly who would be able to convince him to sin no more? Or is he pretty much beyond all hope at this point?
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post Wed 5th March 2008, 6:08am
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Wed 5th March 2008, 4:55pm) *

QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 5th March 2008, 12:38am) *

Haha - thats really Cla68's role I am assuming. (now I am going to have to watch that movie)


Me too.

Is there anyone on WP that JzG trusts wholeheartedly who would be able to convince him to sin no more? Or is he pretty much beyond all hope at this point?


I havent seen any evidence of such a person.
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post Wed 5th March 2008, 6:16am
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Well, Jimbo would probably be able to, but then someone would have to convince him that Guy is actually doing something wrong...
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post Wed 5th March 2008, 6:36am
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Fresh off the talk page presses! Apparently, I'm a hypocrite because people who respond to absolutely everything with an irrelevant two sentence comment eventually tick me off. Until I am completely saintly under all circumstances, I may not complain about people who tell others to "fuck off".

Oh, and I'm told nobody cares about me. I feel so unloved.

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post Wed 5th March 2008, 8:18am
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QUOTE(Amarkov @ Wed 5th March 2008, 7:36am) *

Fresh off the talk page presses! Apparently, I'm a hypocrite because people who respond to absolutely everything with an irrelevant two sentence comment eventually tick me off. Until I am completely saintly under all circumstances, I may not complain about people who tell others to "fuck off".

Oh, and I'm told nobody cares about me. I feel so unloved.


Nobody cares. Fuck off.

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post Wed 5th March 2008, 8:53am
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QUOTE(pedrito @ Wed 5th March 2008, 7:18pm) *

QUOTE(Amarkov @ Wed 5th March 2008, 7:36am) *

Fresh off the talk page presses! Apparently, I'm a hypocrite because people who respond to absolutely everything with an irrelevant two sentence comment eventually tick me off. Until I am completely saintly under all circumstances, I may not complain about people who tell others to "fuck off".

Oh, and I'm told nobody cares about me. I feel so unloved.


Nobody cares. Fuck off.

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What an auspicious start. Welcome to WR.
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post Wed 5th March 2008, 9:12am
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QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 5th March 2008, 2:53am) *
What an auspicious start. Welcome to WR.

At least he took the trouble to add that "winky" emoticon... Besides, everybody loves Amarkov. More than Raymond, in fact!
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post Wed 5th March 2008, 10:09am
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QUOTE(Somey @ Wed 5th March 2008, 10:12am) *

QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 5th March 2008, 2:53am) *
What an auspicious start. Welcome to WR.

At least he took the trouble to add that "winky" emoticon... Besides, everybody loves Amarkov. More than Raymond, in fact!


Actually, I have no beef with Amarkov... His post was just begging the snark I would never forgive myself for not dealing... Sorry if I've offended anybody! smile.gif

Anyway, thanks for the welcome!
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post Wed 5th March 2008, 2:38pm
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QUOTE(Viridae @ Tue 4th March 2008, 9:48pm) *

Have a look at the RfC talk page and User talk:Nick



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...or_comment/JzG2

It appears that Nick would rather play a George Bush role and maintain that there are weapons of mass destruction even in the face of all evidence to the contrary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req..._Kirill_Lokshin

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req..._Kirill_Lokshin
Correct link to Kirill's comment

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QUOTE(Amarkov @ Wed 5th March 2008, 1:16am) *

Well, Jimbo would probably be able to, but then someone would have to convince him that Guy is actually doing something wrong...


Hasn't this already been done?
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post Sun 16th March 2008, 2:42am
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Time for JzG's third RFC!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...r_comment/JzG_3
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post Sun 16th March 2008, 2:58am
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Time for JzG's third RFC!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...r_comment/JzG_3


That one isen't serious though.
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post Sun 16th March 2008, 3:00am
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QUOTE(Xidaf @ Sat 15th March 2008, 10:58pm) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Sat 15th March 2008, 10:42pm) *

Time for JzG's third RFC!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...r_comment/JzG_3


That one isen't serious though.


Oh, I know. But from what I've seen, whenever another RFC follows an RFC on the same person, accusations of "trolling" and "harassment" emerge and nullify the effects of both.

Hopefully, this won't happen to RFC/JzG2, but you never know.
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post Sun 16th March 2008, 3:13am
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Actually, I really think JzG's behavior has significantly improved over the last 90 minutes or so. If he can build on that, use this past 90 minutes as a foundation for the future, and maybe join a "mentoring" program with someone like User:Durova to guide him in how to best use Wikipedia constructively, there may be some hope for him after all! smiling.gif
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post Sun 16th March 2008, 1:38pm
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Ah, the audacity of hope.
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post Thu 27th March 2008, 1:39am
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QUOTE(WhispersOfWisdom @ Mon 3rd March 2008, 10:19pm) *

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...or_comment/JzG2

It is starting now?


Ah, Guy has finally replied - however, he's too much of a chickenshit to post his own reply, so he got Lar to do it for him. What a fucking pussy. Too bad his claims toward improved behavior are totally disclaimed by his dipshit behavior just yesterday, where, in response to a question from Dan Tobias, he created the the page [[User Jzg/Lines]], where he called Dan a "troll" 100 times. Nice work, jackass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG/RfC

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The ending of that statement is funny.

QUOTE(JzG)
Feel free to leave me any constructive comments about how I could have handled something better.


Well, maybe if he didn't define all comments by people you don't like as unconstructive, he'd get more constructive comments. Too bad that statement would be defined as an unconstructive comment, or I'd tell him.
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JzG's response contains the usual wild reductions of complex issues, typical blurring of reality to score points against "enemies", pleas for forgiveness, feeble excuses etc etc.

The bottom line is he lost control and has lied continuously to bully his way out of self inflicted mess after self inflicted mess.

QUOTE(JzG)
And underlying this is the fact that I am in my mid-40s, married, with children aged 11 and 13; any readers of this comment who are themselves parents of teenaged or grown children will probably understand the temptation to behave like a parent when people behave like your kids.

If JzG speaks to his kids the way he speaks to people on Wikipedia, he is in deep trouble.
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