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post Thu 13th March 2008, 4:43am
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Well, not much to read. Mantanmoreland and Samiharris both indefinitely blocked by Coren.

Lets see if David Gerard lights up the wheel war fireworks.
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post Thu 13th March 2008, 2:34pm
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The dispute, which was over here has moved to the Arbcom request for clarification page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req..._Mantanmoreland


Despite there being overwhelming support for a block of Mantanmoreland, Doc Glasgow writes:

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I'm actually neutral on the facts/evidence, but whether there is a community consensus is disputed. There is significant objection from some experienced admins.


Which I take to mean JzG, David Gerard and a few others who are so knee deep in this they were effectively parties to the disruption, and in Gerard's case was even named in the media scandal about the episode. Conflict of Interest anyone?
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QUOTE(Kato @ Thu 13th March 2008, 2:34pm) *

The dispute, which was over here has moved to the Arbcom request for clarification page

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req..._Mantanmoreland


Despite there being overwhelming support for a block of Mantanmoreland, Doc Glasgow writes:

QUOTE(DocG)
I'm actually neutral on the facts/evidence, but whether there is a community consensus is disputed. There is significant objection from some experienced admins.


Which I take to mean JzG, David Gerard and a few others who are so knee deep in this they were effectively parties to the disruption, and in Gerard's case was even named in the media scandal about the episode. Conflict of Interest anyone?


It is difficult to untangle. Given that Fozzie and Cla68 to name but two, clearly are involved in the ArbCom, however, I don't believe they were ever involved in the article wars (happy to be corrected).

The main vocal opponents of the ban are not just opposition within the ArbCom, they have a long history of being involved in the dispute itself, and therefore should step back as being involved. There is also some friends of friends going on.

It would be interesting to peel back the involved admins and see what comments remain from genuinely neutral people. I was interested that Lar stepped up to the plate initially, as he is not a WR lackey, and did not play a particularly strong role in the arbcom (of the top of my head).
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Achromatic   MM and SH indef blocked   Thu 13th March 2008, 4:43am
The Joy   What is this wikilegalese of it being just an ...   Thu 13th March 2008, 4:50am
Heat   If someone does unblock MM I hope it's JzG. Th...   Thu 13th March 2008, 5:15am
Herschelkrustofsky   This is indeed an interesting development. Watch t...   Thu 13th March 2008, 6:35am
Miltopia   David Gerard has already pledged to unblock them. ...   Thu 13th March 2008, 9:30am
dogbiscuit   David Gerard has already pledged to unblock them....   Thu 13th March 2008, 9:33am
cyofee   Doc Glasgow has unblocked Mantanmoreland. Apparen...   Thu 13th March 2008, 1:38pm
dogbiscuit   Doc Glasgow has unblocked Mantanmoreland. Appare...   Thu 13th March 2008, 1:51pm
Moulton   By definition, all drama includes competing intere...   Thu 13th March 2008, 2:59pm
Kato   Some gems from Tony Sidaway who is opposed to the ...   Thu 13th March 2008, 5:39pm
badlydrawnjeff   But...but I thought the ArbCom case was going to F...   Thu 13th March 2008, 6:03pm
Jonny Cache   But … but I thought the ArbCom case was going t...   Thu 13th March 2008, 6:08pm
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