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> FT2 fails to get the joke, Defender of the wiki on the loose
Peter Damian
post Thu 27th March 2008, 8:03pm
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The eccentric Defender of the Wiki leaves a message on FT2's talk page.

FT2 thinking it is a compliment leaves a long-winded and boring reply. Below - I think he has now oversighted it or something as it doesn't appear on the talk history. [My bold - FT clearly needs irony spectacles].


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Thank you for making the difficult decisions
First, thank you for welcoming me to your userpage. You have very good manners.I feel as if I have found my home away from home. I digress...
Our mailing lists are abuzz with praise for your challenging yet necessary actions in blocking Giano. His persistant misogyny, which Thatcher pointed out, is of great concern to us. This behavior must not be tolerated. He has run amuck for far too long on our Project, as his block log indicates. I blogged about this debacle here. I nearly quit blogging for good, but your actions inspired me to keep up the good fight. Thank you for defending the Wiki. Godspeed. The Defender of the Wiki (talk) 18:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


As much as I'd like to accept something like this, I can't. It wasn't done "for" anyone, or for any group, or anything like that. It was done because it needed doing. I wrote WP:DBF back in 2005 and it's still a good recap of things. Giano is a user, not a "challenge" or anything, and blocking is never a game or anything to be done lightly. I wasn't aware of the "female" issue you and Thatcher picked up on, and I could care less on the politicking. An editor was under a remedy to be civil, and wasn't civil, chances got given, normal judgement and action follows, pretty much. That's really all. I don't agree with the strong words and portrayal in your blog (though I respect your right to hold them), I don't feel Giano deserves all the bad names it states, and I'm not inclined to support some call to arms as you seem to wish. The blog is more aggressive and overstated/overhyped than it needs to be. The only aspect that needed thinking about was deciding if the line had been crossed where some formal action was appropriate (as opposed to deferring action) and if his uncivil conduct was harmful to the project, and that was not at all difficult.
The best defense of the wiki (and this applies to Giano as well) is to not provoke division and to step by step cut down on pointless unproductive bad conduct by editors to editors, so that we can all focus on content writing, and genuine content-related matters worthy of attention, more.
My main wish is just that Giano will remember to be civil to others in a way that his gifts and desire to help does not come in parallel with a wish to verbally hurt the efforts and motivation of others too. And -- welcome. FT2 (Talk | email) 19:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
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wikiwhistle
post Fri 28th March 2008, 5:56pm
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WikiD shouldn't have been indef blocked. He only made 5 edits, and 2 of them were to revert and warn a vandal/test edit.

They shouldn't block with the subtext that it's because of his blog, when it's just a bit of fun anyway.
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post Fri 28th March 2008, 7:42pm
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QUOTE(wikiwhistle @ Fri 28th March 2008, 5:56pm) *

WikiD shouldn't have been indef blocked. He only made 5 edits, and 2 of them were to revert and warn a vandal/test edit.

They shouldn't block with the subtext that it's because of his blog, when it's just a bit of fun anyway.


And the comment on the block is

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Trolling. I think there is an encyclopedia somewhere around here, you know


Oh of course. We are building an encyclopedia.
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Peter Damian   FT2 fails to get the joke   Thu 27th March 2008, 8:03pm
Jonny Cache   Wut joke!? Jonny B)   Thu 27th March 2008, 8:22pm
dtobias   It doesn't seem to be oversighted or even blan...   Thu 27th March 2008, 8:25pm
Peter Damian   It doesn't seem to be oversighted or even bla...   Thu 27th March 2008, 9:23pm
Robster   Contributions for Defender of the Wiki here http...   Thu 27th March 2008, 11:39pm
bluevictim   [quote name='Peter Damian' post='88728' date='Thu...   Thu 27th March 2008, 11:59pm
wikiwhistle   but I put it to you that the vandal 70.73.156.11...   Fri 28th March 2008, 12:02am
BobbyBombastic   Geobytes locates 70.73.156.111 at Shaw Cable in ...   Fri 28th March 2008, 6:01pm
thekohser   But who is the Wiki defender? The sense of humou...   Fri 28th March 2008, 3:56am
Kato   But who is the Wiki defender? The sense of humo...   Fri 28th March 2008, 3:47pm
Somey   ...I put it to you that the vandal 70.73.156.111, ...   Tue 1st April 2008, 7:24am
Somey   And how is he "eccentric"? He sounds pre...   Thu 27th March 2008, 8:25pm
wikiwhistle   Defender of the wiki's blog is 'eccentric...   Thu 27th March 2008, 9:17pm
wikiwhistle   There's been a thread or so here about the wik...   Thu 27th March 2008, 9:27pm
Peter Damian   There's been a thread or so here about the wi...   Thu 27th March 2008, 9:33pm
Milton Roe   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Us...   Fri 28th March 2008, 12:06am
dtobias   Is there a policy on WP:EXTRANEOUS-HOOPLA now?   Thu 27th March 2008, 10:27pm
Moulton   Is there a policy on WP:EXTRANEOUS-HOOPLA now? Tha...   Thu 27th March 2008, 11:33pm
The Joy   I thought the Defender admitted he was Relato Some...   Fri 28th March 2008, 4:41am
Peter Damian   Maybe I missed the joke as well. FT2 spent abou...   Fri 28th March 2008, 8:38am
Random832   One of the standard arguments used by Zoophiliacs...   Fri 28th March 2008, 2:05pm
Milton Roe   [quote name='Peter Damian' post='88863' date='Fri...   Fri 28th March 2008, 8:41pm
Random832   You mean it benefits the porcine species by breed...   Fri 28th March 2008, 8:53pm
Milton Roe   You mean it benefits the porcine species by bree...   Fri 28th March 2008, 9:19pm
Docknell   One of the standard arguments used by Zoophiliac...   Tue 1st April 2008, 7:13am
Giano   [quote name='The Joy' post='88832' date='Fri 28th...   Fri 28th March 2008, 2:30pm
Peter Damian   Here is something very funny. FT2 was not the on...   Fri 28th March 2008, 5:31pm
Moulton   It's the Borat Effect -- doing a comedy routin...   Fri 28th March 2008, 3:29pm
Count DeMonet   ......and some innovative comedian milks it for a...   Tue 1st April 2008, 10:12am
wikiwhistle   That, when 2 of his 5 edits were dealing with v...   Fri 28th March 2008, 8:14pm
wikiwhistle   Artiificial insemination is necessary for breeding...   Fri 28th March 2008, 8:45pm
Peter Damian   And here is Wiki defender's unblock request. ...   Sun 30th March 2008, 2:07pm
dogbiscuit   And here is Wiki defender's unblock request. ...   Sun 30th March 2008, 2:35pm
wikiwhistle   I suggest that we follow the chain of command an...   Sun 30th March 2008, 2:47pm
Peter Damian   And then he refers to another apparently a sock ac...   Sun 30th March 2008, 3:05pm


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