FT2 fails to get the joke, Defender of the wiki on the loose Options

[Peter Damian]

The eccentric Defender of the Wiki leaves a message on FT2's talk page.

FT2 thinking it is a compliment leaves a long-winded and boring reply. Below - I think he has now oversighted it or something as it doesn't appear on the talk history. [My bold - FT clearly needs irony spectacles].

Thank you for making the difficult decisions
First, thank you for welcoming me to your userpage. You have very good manners.I feel as if I have found my home away from home. I digress...
Our mailing lists are abuzz with praise for your challenging yet necessary actions in blocking Giano. His persistant misogyny, which Thatcher pointed out, is of great concern to us. This behavior must not be tolerated. He has run amuck for far too long on our Project, as his block log indicates. I blogged about this debacle here. I nearly quit blogging for good, but your actions inspired me to keep up the good fight. Thank you for defending the Wiki. Godspeed. The Defender of the Wiki (talk) 18:36, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


As much as I'd like to accept something like this, I can't. It wasn't done "for" anyone, or for any group, or anything like that. It was done because it needed doing. I wrote WP:DBF back in 2005 and it's still a good recap of things. Giano is a user, not a "challenge" or anything, and blocking is never a game or anything to be done lightly. I wasn't aware of the "female" issue you and Thatcher picked up on, and I could care less on the politicking. An editor was under a remedy to be civil, and wasn't civil, chances got given, normal judgement and action follows, pretty much. That's really all. I don't agree with the strong words and portrayal in your blog (though I respect your right to hold them), I don't feel Giano deserves all the bad names it states, and I'm not inclined to support some call to arms as you seem to wish. The blog is more aggressive and overstated/overhyped than it needs to be. The only aspect that needed thinking about was deciding if the line had been crossed where some formal action was appropriate (as opposed to deferring action) and if his uncivil conduct was harmful to the project, and that was not at all difficult.
The best defense of the wiki (and this applies to Giano as well) is to not provoke division and to step by step cut down on pointless unproductive bad conduct by editors to editors, so that we can all focus on content writing, and genuine content-related matters worthy of attention, more.
My main wish is just that Giano will remember to be civil to others in a way that his gifts and desire to help does not come in parallel with a wish to verbally hurt the efforts and motivation of others too. And -- welcome. FT2 (Talk | email) 19:24, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
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This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Thu 27th March 2008, 8:04pm

[dtobias]

It doesn't seem to be oversighted or even blanked or deleted; the comments in question are right there now.

[Peter Damian]

It doesn't seem to be oversighted or even blanked or deleted; the comments in question are right there now.

How strange. If I look at the talk page history

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&action=history

I see none of the edits (all made after the 17:08 edit, 27 March).

The talk page itself has nothing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:FT2

Maybe my browser wrong?

And how is he "eccentric"? He sounds pretty run-of-the-mill, for WP anyway. I guess that may be a self-contradictory description...

YOu're kidding. You've read the blog, right?

Read the blog.

http://wikidefender.blogspot.com/2008/03/m...o-still-on.html

Why must we allow him to keep creating headaches for us? Is it all because of a few stupid articles that do not get half as many hits as the article about blowjobs? Is the content he provides really that important? Our readers do not seem to think so. It is time for a Great Leader, such as FT2, to tell him he can take all the architecture related crap that he writes and stick it where the sun don’t shine. Who gives a rats patooty about architecture anyway? There are certainly more important articles out there, zoophilia being one example.

But read the blog, because it's much funnier with the links in place.

Defender of the wiki's blog is 'eccentric' in as much as it's a spoof- if this is the same bloke as 'wikidefender'. Is that what you meant, peter?

http://wikidefender.blogspot.com

Yes. I linked to it right at the beginning of this thread, but no one followed it, clearly. Except for dear Wikiwhistle. God bless you.

[edit] But who is the Wiki defender? The sense of humour reminds me of our dearly beloved the Kohs.


Contributions for Defender of the Wiki here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...der_of_the_Wiki

The one on Giano's page was deleted by Giano. The defender also defends the Wiki against vandalism here

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=201368151

and removes the vandalism here

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=201367782

but I put it to you that the vandal 70.73.156.111, who vandalised only 2 minutes before the defender spotted it, is in fact the defender him/herself.


This post has been edited by Peter Damian: Thu 27th March 2008, 9:32pm

[Robster]

Contributions for Defender of the Wiki here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...der_of_the_Wiki

The one on Giano's page was deleted by Giano. The defender also defends the Wiki against vandalism here

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=201368151

and removes the vandalism here

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=201367782

but I put it to you that the vandal 70.73.156.111, who vandalised only 2 minutes before the defender spotted it, is in fact the defender him/herself.

Geobytes locates 70.73.156.111 at Shaw Cable in Toronto.

So the Defender may be Canadian?

[wikiwhistle]

but I put it to you that the vandal 70.73.156.111, who vandalised only 2 minutes before the defender spotted it, is in fact the defender him/herself.

You think so just because the vandalism was only 2 minutes prior? Only, sadly enough lol, I sometimes look at Recent Changes on wiki, and revert vandalism quite quickly.

look here- has he been blocked tonight?

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...der_of_the_Wiki