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| Peter Damian |
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Eric Barbour's experience needs spelling out, because it is fundamental, and explains why Wikipedia is a cult. All cults have a single belief which is completely mad. Everything is they believe is quite logical and rational, except for the single mad belief. Marxists have the thing about the explanation of history. Scientologists have the 'Thetan' theory of the origin of evil.
All the evil things that a cult does can be explained by their belief in this single mad thing.
In the case of Wikipedia, the mad belief is that good articles arise from the efforts of hundreds or thousands of individual nameless editors. This is despite all evidence to the contrary that each good article is the work of one or two editors who have special or unique expertise in their subject area.
This explains all the evil that has arisen. The cult belief naturally irritates the editors who have contributed the good articles. They get no special status on the project. Look at the way Giano has been treated. It also explains the obsession with 'civility'. Clearly there are problems at the moment (witness Giano again). But the obvious explanation has to be ruled out, because it contradicts the cult belief. Therefore the explanation has to be 'incivility'. Incivility is not the symptom of the Wikipedia problem, it is the cause of it. Therefore good editors must be evicted, because they are harming the project. They can be replaced, because the progress of the encylopedia depends not on individuals, but the wisdom of the crowd. And they must be replaced, because their uncivil behaviour is preventing this progress.
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Peter Damian Wikipedia Culture : How Like A Cult Fri 4th April 2008, 8:15am dtobias I don't think that explains all of the WikiCli... Fri 4th April 2008, 12:12pm Peter Damian
I don't think that explains all of the WikiCl... Fri 4th April 2008, 12:25pm Jonny Cache
I don't think that explains all of the WikiCl... Fri 4th April 2008, 1:00pm Milton Roe
I don't think that explains all of the WikiCl... Fri 4th April 2008, 9:30pm  Herschelkrustofsky
[quote name='dtobias' post='90369' date='Fri 4th ... Sat 5th April 2008, 12:04am   wikiwhistle
I would be cautious in presenting Rick Ross as an... Sat 5th April 2008, 12:22am NotARepublican55
I don't think that explains all of the WikiCl... Thu 11th March 2010, 8:28am UseOnceAndDestroy The cult analogy has been raked over many times, b... Fri 4th April 2008, 3:39pm Peter Damian
would lead you to classify most organisations wit... Fri 4th April 2008, 4:23pm Somey The "single mad belief" thing is pedestr... Fri 4th April 2008, 5:56pm  Jonny Cache
The "single mad belief" thing is pedes... Fri 4th April 2008, 6:12pm wikiwhistle This is my favoured description of what makes a gr... Fri 4th April 2008, 3:59pm jorge Chilling Fri 4th April 2008, 4:22pm Maju
This is my favoured description of what makes a g... Tue 15th July 2008, 3:02am  jch
Very scary but real too. Maybe a couple of points... Wed 16th July 2008, 7:46am   Maju
Very scary but real too. Maybe a couple of point... Wed 16th July 2008, 9:31pm dtobias Doesn't basing things on Objectivist fundament... Fri 4th April 2008, 7:04pm Somey Doesn't basing things on Objectivist fundament... Fri 4th April 2008, 7:05pm  Jonny Cache
Doesn't basing things on Objectivist fundame... Fri 4th April 2008, 7:32pm Castle Rock User Andries, who actually was in a cult, wrote an... Sat 5th April 2008, 12:20am Jonny Cache Could I Have A Single Malt Scotch Instead?
Jonny ... Sat 5th April 2008, 1:54am Milton Roe
Could I Have A [size=3][b]Single Malt Scotch Inst... Sat 5th April 2008, 2:31am Ed Poor
Eric Barbour's experience needs spelling out,... Sun 6th April 2008, 9:31pm Derktar
[quote name='Peter Damian' post='90345' date='Fri... Sun 6th April 2008, 9:33pm  Somey The legendary Ed Poor! Welcome to WR.
Indeed... Sun 6th April 2008, 9:39pm   Jon Awbrey
The legendary Ed Poor! Welcome to WR.
Inde... Sun 6th April 2008, 9:58pm Peter Damian Geogre has a nice analysis of this here:
http://e... Mon 7th April 2008, 8:12am Docknell
Eric Barbour's experience needs spelling out,... Thu 17th July 2008, 8:20am Mr. Mystery i wandered into my local public library today, and... Tue 16th September 2008, 6:50pm Jon Awbrey
I wandered into my local public library today, an... Tue 16th September 2008, 7:42pm  Mr. Mystery
I'm no particular fan of Ayn Rand, but it wo... Wed 17th September 2008, 5:10am   Docknell
I'm no particular fan of Ayn Rand, but it w... Wed 17th September 2008, 6:28am    GlassBeadGame I am surprised that something very much like a rel... Wed 17th September 2008, 12:38pm     Jon Awbrey
I am surprised that something very much like a re... Wed 17th September 2008, 12:42pm      GlassBeadGame
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='130287' date='W... Wed 17th September 2008, 1:02pm       Jon Awbrey
[quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='130287' date='... Wed 17th September 2008, 1:26pm dtobias When excommunicated Objectivist Nathaniel Branden ... Tue 16th September 2008, 7:52pm Cla68
When excommunicated Objectivist Nathaniel Branden... Wed 17th September 2008, 1:16am Jon Awbrey
All cults have a single belief which is completel... Tue 7th October 2008, 2:10am Moulton There is indeed a Single Mad Belief, but it's ... Tue 7th October 2008, 3:24am Jon Awbrey
There is indeed a Single Mad Belief, but it's... Tue 7th October 2008, 4:02am emesee I did not see this. I must admit I am bit surprise... Tue 11th November 2008, 2:50am Jon Awbrey I found this thread where we already had a fairly ... Fri 6th March 2009, 3:26am Moulton My single mad belief is that humans are capable of... Fri 6th March 2009, 3:30am Jon Awbrey
My single mad belief is that humans are capable o... Fri 6th March 2009, 4:32am Jon Awbrey Cults have periodically erupted into public notice... Fri 6th March 2009, 5:34pm Milton Roe
The research that I had long been pursuing into t... Fri 6th March 2009, 6:45pm GlassBeadGame I think the central aspect of a cult is that it is... Fri 6th March 2009, 6:04pm EricBarbour It only takes one aggressive, bipolar personality ... Sat 7th March 2009, 10:15pm Kato Make no mistake--Bill Gates would have gone nowher... Sat 7th March 2009, 11:48pm  GlassBeadGame
Make no mistake--Bill Gates would have gone nowhe... Sun 8th March 2009, 12:00am   EricBarbour
Read [url=http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Valley-Makin... Mon 9th March 2009, 9:16am emesee It seems a bit to secular to be labeled a cult, or... Mon 9th March 2009, 5:29am Herschelkrustofsky
But then again, is atheism and secularism just an... Mon 9th March 2009, 2:45pm  Jon Awbrey
I have a suggestion for how to answer the ever-po... Mon 9th March 2009, 2:58pm   Herschelkrustofsky
Therefore, a good test of whether a movement is ... Mon 9th March 2009, 3:11pm    Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='160341' date='Mon ... Mon 9th March 2009, 4:44pm Moulton
Sound familiar, Jon? Mon 9th March 2009, 5:32pm Jon Awbrey
Sound familiar, Jon?
I started to write a resp... Tue 10th March 2009, 3:48am emesee You all know. I think we all have seen that poster... Tue 10th March 2009, 6:33am Somey You all know. I think we all have seen that poster... Wed 11th March 2009, 5:44pm  Jon Awbrey
[quote name='emesee' post='160498' date='Tue 10th... Thu 12th March 2009, 2:42am Moulton
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The whole thing about being a true believer is ho... Mon 25th January 2010, 2:00pm Jon Awbrey We've been seeing some examples recently of wh... Thu 15th July 2010, 1:32am Jon Awbrey If, as Bain is said to have said, a belief is that... Fri 23rd July 2010, 2:08am Avirosa At the risk of dragging this thread into the realm... Fri 23rd July 2010, 11:10am Jon Awbrey
At the risk of dragging this thread into the real... Fri 23rd July 2010, 11:20am Kelly Martin The key component of cultic groups which distingui... Fri 23rd July 2010, 11:57am Moulton Attachment is the Root of All Suffering --[url=htt... Fri 23rd July 2010, 11:43am Somey Well, it seems to me that Mr. Virosa was merely ag... Sat 24th July 2010, 6:33am Avirosa
Well, it seems to me that Mr. Virosa was merely a... Sat 24th July 2010, 8:38am Peter Damian Well what about this http://ragesoss.com/blog/2010... Sat 24th July 2010, 8:54am Avirosa
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Having survived the Cu... Mon 26th July 2010, 1:26pm Jon Awbrey Here's one place in my “Inquiry Into Inquiry... Mon 26th July 2010, 2:14pm thekohser I'm no expert on cults, but isn't it anoth... Tue 3rd August 2010, 6:05pm ulsterman
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