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| jd turk |
Tue 6th May 2008, 7:36pm
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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Sat 26th April 2008, 9:16am)  Resolved —
The Use Of Pseudonyms Is A Prima Facie Symptom Of Emotional, Mental, And Moral Dysfunction
Disagree completely. In the case of WP, its very structure and encouragement of anonymous IP editors makes pseudonyms necessary. I've edited on there for about a year, mostly just minor edits and the like. It's not like I edit war at the Gaza Strip article or anything else that's a hotbed of emotional conflict. That's just not what I'm interested in. I'd love to be able to edit under my real name, but about six months ago some punk college student got ticked off that I removed his name from a college article. He found my websites and spammed them, threatened my ebay account, and caused trouble for me at work with anonymous emails. My old username was connected to my email account, so a few pages of googling me was sufficient to find me out. I'm a semi-public figure. If everybody else is afforded the luxury of being anonymous, I need the same for the purpose of safety. Even if ninety-nine percent of people on the internet are normal, that one percent can cause a lot of trouble with very little cause or effort.
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| Jon Awbrey |
Tue 6th May 2008, 7:59pm
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QUOTE(jd turk @ Tue 6th May 2008, 3:36pm)  QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Sat 26th April 2008, 9:16am)  Resolved —
The Use Of Pseudonyms Is A Prima Facie Symptom Of Emotional, Mental, And Moral Dysfunction
Disagree completely. In the case of WP, its very structure and encouragement of anonymous IP editors makes pseudonyms necessary. I've edited on there for about a year, mostly just minor edits and the like. It's not like I edit war at the Gaza Strip article or anything else that's a hotbed of emotional conflict. That's just not what I'm interested in. I'd love to be able to edit under my real name, but about six months ago some punk college student got ticked off that I removed his name from a college article. He found my websites and spammed them, threatened my ebay account, and caused trouble for me at work with anonymous emails. My old username was connected to my email account, so a few pages of googling me was sufficient to find me out. I'm a semi-public figure. If everybody else is afforded the luxury of being anonymous, I need the same for the purpose of safety. Even if ninety-nine percent of people on the internet are normal, that one percent can cause a lot of trouble with very little cause or effort. I'm just telling one of the few things that I have learned from Wikipedia over the last four years. Just by way of clarifying the terms of the statement, the qualification "prima facie" is there to stipulate what computer geeks call a "default assumption". There can be exceptions on account of extenuating circumstances. But the essence of exceptions and extenuating circumstances is to be few in number and even accidental. But the rule remains valid — if a non-trivial subpopulation starts claiming exemptions from the ordinary norms of scholarship and society — as they do in Wikipedia — then there will be Emotional, Mental, And Moral Dysfunction (EMAMD) abroad in the Land, you can bet your bottom dollar on that. Jon 
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Jon Awbrey The Use Of Pseudonyms Is a Prima Facie Symptom Sat 26th April 2008, 2:16pm wikiwhistle what, anywhere? Or just on wikipedia-related sites... Sat 26th April 2008, 2:27pm Jon Awbrey
What, anywhere? Or just on Wikipedia-related site... Sat 26th April 2008, 2:38pm  wikiwhistle
I think you have the Internet confused with Usen... Sat 26th April 2008, 7:59pm Moulton Is the initiation of this thread prima facie evide... Sat 26th April 2008, 3:07pm Disillusioned Lackey
Hogwash.
"If everyone knew what others sai... Sat 26th April 2008, 3:20pm  wikiwhistle
Enforced real identity-internet identification, ... Sat 26th April 2008, 7:20pm   Disillusioned Lackey
A lot of people who use their real name online, a... Sat 26th April 2008, 8:25pm    Gold heart
So it isn't only an issue of net-naiivite. I... Sat 26th April 2008, 8:40pm    wikiwhistle
So it isn't only an issue of net-naiivite. ... Sat 26th April 2008, 9:00pm   Amarkov
It's not even so much about libel, as just co... Sat 26th April 2008, 9:01pm    wikiwhistle
But it is advertised as an encyclopedia. And a go... Sat 26th April 2008, 9:14pm     Amarkov
[quote name='Amarkov' post='96497' date='Sat 26th... Sat 26th April 2008, 9:26pm     Disillusioned Lackey
It's still the internet, and internet risks a... Sat 26th April 2008, 11:12pm      wikiwhistle
[quote name='wikiwhistle' post='96501' date='Sat ... Sat 26th April 2008, 11:36pm       Disillusioned Lackey
Did I say anything about that? You mean in news... Sun 27th April 2008, 12:52am        wikiwhistle
I think that you vastly underestimate the level o... Sun 27th April 2008, 1:38am         Disillusioned Lackey
I've not said anything about the level of att... Sun 27th April 2008, 9:58am      the fieryangel Let's not even go there... Fri 6th June 2008, 8:10pm     Proabivouac
But it is advertised as an encyclopedia. And a go... Sat 26th April 2008, 11:14pm  Jon Awbrey
Hogwash.
[center][i]"If everyone knew what... Tue 6th May 2008, 12:00pm Moulton This thread is an example of Regression Toward the... Tue 6th May 2008, 6:34pm Jon Awbrey Citizen Turk,
Let me focus for a moment on your o... Tue 6th May 2008, 9:28pm  jd turk
You said that Anonyms make Pseudonyms necessary.
... Wed 7th May 2008, 5:17am   Jon Awbrey
You said that Anonyms make Pseudonyms necessary.... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:32pm  Proabivouac
In light of that Principle Of Equivalence, your s... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:47pm anthony
[b][color=dodgerblue][font=georgia][size=4]Resol... Tue 6th May 2008, 10:26pm  Jon Awbrey
[b][color=dodgerblue][font=georgia][size=2]Reso... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:52am  GlassBeadGame
[quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='96424' date='Sat ... Wed 7th May 2008, 1:08am   Jon Awbrey Pseudonym = False Name
For example, consider the ... Wed 7th May 2008, 1:34am    GlassBeadGame
Pseudonym = False Name
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I think the othe... Wed 7th May 2008, 1:38am     Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='99614' date='Tue 6... Wed 7th May 2008, 2:02am   anthony
Then again, my username there, as well as here, ... Wed 7th May 2008, 4:42am    dogbiscuit
But then, I don't think every public statemen... Wed 7th May 2008, 9:28am Moulton Embrace Your Avatar
Gordon Pitts of the Toronto G... Fri 6th June 2008, 12:43pm Jon Awbrey
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The Use Of Ps... Sat 6th September 2008, 2:18am Jon Awbrey
[color=dodgerblue][font=georgia][size=4]Resolved ... Wed 15th October 2008, 2:54pm Somey On top of everything else, the use of pseudonyms q... Thu 16th October 2008, 4:34am  Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='136126' date='Wed ... Thu 16th October 2008, 10:40am Moulton I see it going the other way.
I see WMF-sponsored... Thu 16th October 2008, 5:18am Somey I see WMF-sponsored projects ineluctably morphing ... Thu 16th October 2008, 8:09am  Jon Awbrey
That may be true within certain "trouble spo... Thu 16th October 2008, 11:00am Moulton
I don't think they can arrest the transformat... Thu 16th October 2008, 11:23am Cedric
I don't think they can arrest the transforma... Thu 16th October 2008, 4:45pm  Somey I would not say, however, that much of a transform... Thu 16th October 2008, 5:34pm  Count DeMonet
Strange for me to say, but I find myself more in ... Wed 22nd October 2008, 12:09pm   Meringue
Strange for me to say, but I find myself more in... Thu 23rd October 2008, 1:50pm    Cedric
[quote name='Count" DeMonet' post='137417' d... Thu 23rd October 2008, 4:03pm Jon Awbrey I think both Moulton and Kabalversity have Peer Re... Thu 16th October 2008, 1:02pm Somey Year 2? — I thought it was 7 or 8.
Year 2 of thi... Thu 16th October 2008, 5:05pm everyking
Year 2? — I thought it was 7 or 8.
Year 2 of th... Thu 16th October 2008, 5:51pm  Somey In the subject areas I work on, there are so many ... Thu 16th October 2008, 7:45pm Jon Awbrey
Year 2? — I thought it was 7 or 8.
Year 2 of... Thu 16th October 2008, 5:52pm Jon Awbrey Just in case there are few Noobees who do not know... Thu 16th October 2008, 6:56pm Jon Awbrey Epigraph Added In Proof —
Just in case there ... Fri 17th October 2008, 11:20pm Moulton [url=http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/User_talk:Moul... Thu 16th October 2008, 7:38pm Jon Awbrey Moulton,
Put down the mouse, step away from the k... Thu 16th October 2008, 8:01pm Somey Again with the Snow-Blindness. Only Da Rubes Care... Fri 17th October 2008, 3:18am  Jon Awbrey
And you wonder why this isn't a more popular ... Fri 17th October 2008, 1:02pm   Somey I wasn't really in it for the Popularity, but ... Sat 18th October 2008, 3:43am
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