Please, dear God, will someone take JzG's stupid admin tools, appearing now at the ArbCom Options

[dogbiscuit]

If you were French or even a Francophone like (say) Wjscriber, we could forgive you for that. But I fail to see what this does for Brits accused of being foul-mouthed.

I'm sure some of this is a class-thing (Maybe he's from the wrong part of Manchester?), but just about anybody with frontal lobes and age over 18 has learned to moderate speech in some way in polite society or discourse.

Has the Chunnel really resulted in more cunt-using Brits?

It is really depressing to even have to argue this. Using extremely bad language like this in public is something that is simply jolly well not done in Britain. As I am sure I have said before, what is appropriate on the shop floor, or down the pub between friends is not generally accepted - and in fact, if groups talked loudly using bad language in many civilised pubs they would be told to keep it down, or get on their bikes.

The level I would put Wikipedia at is that of a public meeting place where you know that you will be overheard. Any reasonable Brit would know to avoid bad language in such a context. Indeed, plenty of people would be happy to point out politely that bad language is not appropriate. The BBC 606 boards do not tolerate any bad language at all.

It is not that we don't hear it, it is not that we don't use it, it is that we think it doesn't reflect well on us. Call me old fashioned, but I do find it nicer to get through the day avoiding the issue of whether the someone who called me a wanker was really my mate or not. Actually, being called a fool is usually much more hurtful, as there is no getting around the intent.

So this stuff about it being OK to go around Britain being foul mouthed is just more Guy lack of self-awareness. Guy is just taking people for a ride because he knows that the majority of Americans haven't a clue: America is the country where Phil Collins said wanker in Miami Vice shown on prime time networked TV because nobody knew what it meant.

Tell you what, next time you are checking in at a BA desk and you have a problem, see what happens if you say "Just fucking sort it out." I've seen it happen, and they are quite happy to refund your ticket there and then. Similarly, if a member of staff lost their cool, they would at least be on a written warning for that language.

Does Wikipedia want to aim for high standards, or stick with the lowest common denominator? It's not going to offend me greatly if there is bad language, but it would be better if there wasn'ta nd I don't see any reason for it to be tolerated - and even less so from administrators who represent the public image of Wikipedia.

[wikiwhistle]

The level I would put Wikipedia at is that of a public meeting place where you know that you will be overheard. Any reasonable Brit would know to avoid bad language in such a context.

It reminds me of the Zimbardo Cookie Experiment- if people have power and are sharing a plate of "cookies" with others lower in the pecking order, they will be more likely to take the last cookie, and they will eat more messily. (this used to be somewhere on wiki- not the user of the same name, the actual info, but I can't see it anywhere now. So I don't know if it's a myth.)

This post has been edited by wikiwhistle: Mon 19th May 2008, 10:07pm

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Off we go, with ample suggestions by JzG that the whole thing is a conspiracy by the Wikipedia Review.

(Starts thread with title, "JzG Deathwatch)

[ColScott]

Off we go, with ample suggestions by JzG that the whole thing is a conspiracy by the Wikipedia Review.

This psychopath called up Daily Variety and tried to initiate an article about my war with WP. They laughed when I showed all the Marden and Pedophile links. But if I were on WP, would I want Guy Chapman speaking to the press?

[Moulton]

We've used the somewhat corny term (no offense to any Iowans here) 'Deathwatch' on three threads, each time with a distinctly different connotation or tacit expectation or hoped-for outcome.

Perhaps we can adopt a more expressly hopeful term for each one. Something like this:

Cla68 Vindicationwatch

JzG Redemptionwatch

SV Enlightenmentwatch

Filll Epiphanywatch

FeloniousMonk Remorsewatch

[JohnA]

Perhaps we should start another thread called "Cliché Watch"

[Moulton]

Pretty soon we'll have so many sprawling watch threads, we'll have to keep an eye on them all with a special Kato-sponsored supervisory thread called Threadwatch.

[LessHorrid vanU]

Haha - JzG is apparently going on holiday again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm...n.27t_noticed... just like he did just before the RfC was posted - not that you would have noticed any slowdown in his editing of course.

I believe User:DuncanHill commented likewise (and he probably sounds more like Long John Silver than me, having spent his formative years in the West Country - whereas I spent mine in the West London - Heathrow area...) in the RfAR.

[LessHorrid vanU]

Pretty soon we'll have so many sprawling watch threads, we'll have to keep an eye on them all with a special Kato-sponsored supervisory thread called Threadwatch.

"WatchWatch", surely?

If it ever gets too big we could always start a sub-forum "What WatchWatch", and if it grows further the digest would of course be "Watch What WatchWatch". Good plan, what?

This post has been edited by LessHorrid vanU: Wed 21st May 2008, 1:35pm

[JohnA]

I swear for emphasis (usually comic) and when I'm very tired, because it compresses emotion into short, staccato soundbites.

Now please fuck off.

[Moulton]

Watch it, buddy. You're starting to annoy me.

And you know what happens when I get annoyed, don't you?

[guy]

And you know what happens when I get annoyed, don't you?

You make lots of posts?

[Moulton]

And you know what happens when I get annoyed, don't you?

You make lots of posts?

And of course you know the role model for that practice, who perhaps considers me his rival or antagonist.

[Lar]

And you know what happens when I get annoyed, don't you?

You make lots of posts?

And of course you know the role model for that practice, who perhaps considers me his rival or antagonist.

I think you're ascribing a theory of mind there ... or maybe 2.

[Somey]

Any good gag loses potency after the second or third use...

Besides, this thread should actually be merged with this one, as HK was three days late picking up on it. So perhaps it's a moot point?

Mainly, it just shows once again that descriptive thread titles are important to our so-called "mission."

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Perhaps we should start another thread called "Cliché Watch"

I am receptive to criticism of all sorts, and upon reflection, I have modified the title of this thread accordingly.

(Modifies thread title to "JzG DICKwatch")

[The Joy]

Perhaps we should start another thread called "Cliché Watch"

I am receptive to criticism of all sorts, and upon reflection, I have modified the title of this thread accordingly.

Darn! I was hoping all this DeathWatch stuff would push Somey to make a photoshop of a watch with a machine gun or sword fending off Arbitrators!

[dogbiscuit]

Perhaps we should start another thread called "Cliché Watch"

I am receptive to criticism of all sorts, and upon reflection, I have modified the title of this thread accordingly.

Darn! I was hoping all this DeathWatch stuff would push Somey to make a photoshop of a watch with a machine gun or sword fending off Arbitrators!

I was simply hoping he was going to change his byline to "Damn the torpedoes!"

[Moulton]

Couldn't you at least make it putzwatch, to confuse the Bible Belters?

[GlassBeadGame]

Couldn't you at least make it putzwatch, to confuse the Bible Belters?

I love the new subtitle. It is so much kinder than the old one. One the other hand I don't ever want to see a DS DICKwatch. No not ever.