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| Derktar |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm...er:Orangemarlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=210232016 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=210231458 QUOTE I don't know - we have an active contributor to Wikipedia Review apparently editing on behalf of another Wikipedia Review editor (who happens to be a permabanned editor). Not too big a leap at all... Guettarda (talk) 03:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC) That's right folks, I forgot to mention we re-programmed Krimpet a week or so ago and we are finally putting her to use. So sorry you had to wander into that mess Krimpet. |
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| The Joy |
Tue 6th May 2008, 3:41am
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Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get away with such uncollegial behavior? They are running off anyone that comes along. I've never seen such blind anger and pure hatred on a WP talk page before.
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| Proabivouac |
Tue 6th May 2008, 8:49am
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I've never seen such blind anger and pure hatred on a WP talk page before. It gets much worse than this, actually. What are the members of the ID Cabal doing While there were many problems with the article, I can think of no other answer here besides revenge. This is how Wikipedia editorial policy is formulated. There is no one who will take responsibility for the decisions that are made: formally, no decisions are being made. It's just volunteers, you know, helping out where they can according to WP policies. Well this is how wikiworld works. Except eventually the heat dies down and uninvolved people stop caring/looking out and the thuggery begins again. No one is blocked, no one is topic banned, and no one has been assigned responsibility for decisions about this (or any other) article. There is nothing to stop the problems from recurring; we can be fairly certain that they will. This post has been edited by Proabivouac: Tue 6th May 2008, 8:50am |
| Moulton |
Tue 6th May 2008, 9:05am
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I've never seen such blind anger and pure hatred on a WP talk page before. It gets much worse than this, actually.Yes, it sometimes does. QUOTE(Proabiviouac) What are the members of the ID Cabal doing While there were many problems with the article, I can think of no other answer here besides revenge. This is how Wikipedia editorial policy is formulated. There is no one who will take responsibility for the decisions that are made: formally, no decisions are being made. It's just volunteers, you know, helping out where they can according to WP policies.The irony is that I first went to Wikipedia last August, during a slow week, to see if WP even had an article on Affective Computing, and if it was in need of any updates, in anticipation of the start of another school year. And that's when I clicked on the name of the MIT faculty member who was the founder of the field of Affective Computing, and found this. Editing articles on Wikipedia is like playing Whack-A-Mole. No one is blocked, no one is topic banned, and no one has been assigned responsibility for decisions about this (or any other) article. There is nothing to stop the problems from recurring; we can be fairly certain that they will. That's why I view this anecdotal case as indicative of a structural, systemic problem. Just fixing this one article does little more than shave off the tip of the iceberg. When I zoomed out from the first problematic article, I found it was far from a unique example. While this thread began with an opening sneeze involving Krimpet and OrangeMarlin, perhaps the thread title could be revised to more accurately capture the essence of the story as it unfolded during the course of the opera. The story reminds me of The Hary Janos Suite, but I daresay that's too obscure a musical reference to be meaningful to most observers here. |
| Moulton |
Thu 8th May 2008, 3:14pm
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![]() Anthropologist from Mars ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Contributors Posts: 10,220 Joined: Mon 29th Oct 2007, 9:56pm From: Greater Boston Member No.: 3,670 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
While this thread began with an opening sneeze involving Krimpet and OrangeMarlin, perhaps the thread title could be revised to more accurately capture the essence of the story as it unfolded during the course of the opera. The story reminds me of The Hary Janos Suite, but I daresay that's too obscure a musical reference to be meaningful to most observers here. Does anyone have any suggestions for a more meaningful topic title, given that we've now zoomed out a bit from the tip of the iceberg to discover other sharks in the water besides an orange marlin? |
Derktar A Scientific Dissent from Wikipedianism Mon 5th May 2008, 4:20am
Moulton Good grief. Mon 5th May 2008, 4:51am
Kato The treatment of Rosalind Picard's biography b... Mon 5th May 2008, 4:59am
Somey Disgusting!
It's a good example, though, ... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:22am
Moulton [quote name='Moulton' post='96701' date='Sun 27th ... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:34am
Somey Opt-out... Reciprocity... Opt-out... Reciprocity..... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:40am
Derktar
Opt-out... Reciprocity... Opt-out... Reciprocity.... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:42am
Moulton Here is some useful information...
The two-senten... Mon 5th May 2008, 6:21am
Jacina The way I see it is that we have 2 Theories (proba... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:17am

Proabivouac
The way I see it is that we have 2 Theories (prob... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:30am


Somey Additionally, I see no reason to believe that eith... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:35am


UserB
Additionally, I see no reason to believe that eit... Mon 5th May 2008, 12:40pm

Kato
The way I see it is that we have 2 Theories (prob... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:31am
Jon Awbrey
The puzzle of abiogenesis remains an unsolved pro... Mon 5th May 2008, 4:30pm
Somey Ehh, hopefully we can agree to disagree on the who... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:27am
Proabivouac
However, I do have qualms with people being targe... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:37am
Somey Who is responsible for ensuring the fairness and ... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:48am
Jacina Ah /shrug boils down to observation at the start, ... Mon 5th May 2008, 9:41am
Moulton I don't know anyone who disputes evolution as ... Mon 5th May 2008, 1:14pm
that one guy CBM has some respect in my book. Krimpet gets a s... Mon 5th May 2008, 2:07pm
Moulton Reading that firestorm in the wake of Krimpet... Mon 5th May 2008, 2:36pm
Jon Awbrey
Reading that firestorm in the wake of Krimpet... Mon 5th May 2008, 2:44pm
Moulton It looks like most of the remaining debate has set... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:37pm
Somey Well, at least he admits to what he and his team a... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:48pm
dogbiscuit
Well, at least he admits to what he and his team ... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:59pm
Moulton Half the lies Filll is posting there aren't ev... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:57pm
Moulton The NYT piece covered the controversy, but didn... Mon 5th May 2008, 4:02pm
Sceptre Ack, Guettarda is not one of my favourite admins. ... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:09pm
that one guy The good old "You share viewpoint X with bann... Mon 5th May 2008, 6:42pm
Proabivouac
The good old "You share viewpoint X with ban... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:56pm
Giggy
It seems obvious that Krimpet was moved to take a... Tue 6th May 2008, 3:40am
Moulton Kudos to Krimpet, aka Mrs. Moulton (or so we are t... Tue 6th May 2008, 8:00am
dogbiscuit It is worth noting this vote stacking technique th... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:37pm
Moulton I don't know how Krimpet came onto the case, b... Mon 5th May 2008, 9:39pm
tarantino After being slapped down on AN/I, Raul654 has prot... Tue 6th May 2008, 2:36am
The Joy
After being slapped down on AN/I, Raul654 has [ur... Tue 6th May 2008, 2:50am
Jon Awbrey
After being slapped down on AN/I, Raul654 has [u... Tue 6th May 2008, 3:46am
Moulton Moulton, has Ms. Picard called attention to this t... Tue 6th May 2008, 7:40am
Kato The talk page is embarrassing to read. It took me ... Tue 6th May 2008, 3:17am
Giggy
Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get a... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:21am

The Joy
Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get ... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:39am

Derktar
[quote name='Giggy' post='99330' date='Tue 6th Ma... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:40am

Giggy
[quote name='Giggy' post='99330' date='Tue 6th Ma... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:50am

The Joy
[quote name='Giggy' post='99330' date='Tue 6th M... Tue 6th May 2008, 5:04am

Cla68 I just read the Picard article, and it appears to ... Tue 6th May 2008, 6:28am

Derktar
I just read the Picard article, and it appears to... Tue 6th May 2008, 6:30am

Somey I just read the Picard article, and it appears to ... Tue 6th May 2008, 6:37am

Moulton I just read the Picard article, and it appears to ... Tue 6th May 2008, 8:17am

Kato
But I am also mindful of the difficulty of mainta... Tue 6th May 2008, 1:51pm

Jon Awbrey
But I am also mindful of the difficulty of maint... Tue 6th May 2008, 2:06pm

dogbiscuit
But I am also mindful of the difficulty of maint... Tue 6th May 2008, 2:32pm


Moulton [quote name='Kato' post='99443' date='Tue 6th May ... Tue 6th May 2008, 5:03pm

Moulton But I am also mindful of the difficulty of maintai... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:25pm

Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Kato' post='99443' date='Tue 6th May... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:44pm
Proabivouac
Yes, it sometimes does.
Wait, Filll is himself... Tue 6th May 2008, 12:49pm

Moulton [quote name='Moulton' post='99377' date='Tue 6th M... Tue 6th May 2008, 1:15pm

Random832
Wait, Filll is himself claiming these credential... Tue 6th May 2008, 1:45pm
dogbiscuit
[quote name='Moulton' post='99377' date='Tue 6th ... Thu 8th May 2008, 3:41pm
that one guy The whole situation can be summed up as one big me... Tue 6th May 2008, 12:36pm
Moulton From the talk page colloquy...
[b][url=http://en.... Tue 6th May 2008, 7:12pm
Sxeptomaniac [quote name='Moulton' post='99512' date='Tue 6th M... Tue 6th May 2008, 10:53pm
Moulton Heh. I found the whole "Moulton as puppetmas... Tue 6th May 2008, 11:16pm
Cla68 I wonder if OrangeMarlin, Jim62sch, and their frie... Tue 6th May 2008, 11:38pm

dogbiscuit
I wonder if OrangeMarlin, Jim62sch, and their fri... Tue 6th May 2008, 11:55pm


Cla68
I wonder if OrangeMarlin, Jim62sch, and their fr... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:41am

Piperdown
I wonder if OrangeMarlin, Jim62sch, and their fri... Wed 7th May 2008, 1:46am
Sxeptomaniac
[quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='99560' date='Tue... Tue 6th May 2008, 11:54pm
Moulton I noticed that, rather than work with you regardin... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:15am
dogbiscuit
I noticed that, rather than work with you regardi... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:28am
Derktar
[quote name='Moulton' post='99582' date='Wed 7th ... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:30am

dogbiscuit
Too many times have we seen this before. A new us... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:39am
Moulton [quote name='Moulton' post='99582' date='Wed 7th M... Wed 7th May 2008, 2:29am
Castle Rock God, he's a pathetic little man. PS Raul chec... Tue 6th May 2008, 11:03pm
Kato
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ta... Tue 6th May 2008, 11:42pm
tarantino
God, he's a pathetic little man. PS Raul che... Wed 7th May 2008, 1:37am
Kato I haven't paid that much attention to this cli... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:11am
Jon Awbrey I haven't followed this whole thread, so I don... Wed 7th May 2008, 2:56am
Moulton Filll admits the petition can be interpreted seven... Wed 7th May 2008, 3:23am
Kato
Filll admits the petition can be interpreted seve... Wed 7th May 2008, 3:37am
Moulton Rework the "Tour's field of organic...... Wed 7th May 2008, 4:52am

Kato
Rework the "Tour's field of organic...... Wed 7th May 2008, 5:04am
Sxeptomaniac
By the way, I'm staggered by the naivety of t... Wed 7th May 2008, 6:50am
Moulton Science is their religion, and they are the evange... Wed 7th May 2008, 11:59am
Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='99667' date='Wed... Wed 7th May 2008, 3:21pm
Sxeptomaniac
Science is their religion, and they are the evang... Wed 7th May 2008, 5:02pm
Moulton [quote name='Moulton' post='99711' date='Wed 7th M... Wed 7th May 2008, 9:18pm
Kato If you read the WP article on "A Scientific D... Wed 7th May 2008, 5:33am
Moulton Returning now to the latest postings in the colloq... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:47pm
Moulton [quote name='FCYTravis' post='95898' date='Thu 24t... Wed 7th May 2008, 1:58pm
Moulton Somewhere between last December and this week, som... Thu 8th May 2008, 3:40pm
Sxeptomaniac
Somewhere between last December and this week, [u... Thu 8th May 2008, 4:12pm
Kato The behavior of these people, who have now moved o... Thu 8th May 2008, 3:56pm
Moulton What's even more exasperating is that I'm ... Thu 8th May 2008, 3:58pm
Jon Awbrey
What's even more exasperating is that I'm... Thu 8th May 2008, 4:07pm
Moulton There's a box you can check if you want to kee... Thu 8th May 2008, 4:12pm
Moulton Is there some reason we can't all use open col... Thu 8th May 2008, 4:17pm![]() ![]() |
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