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| Derktar |
 Mon 5th May 2008, 4:20am
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm...er:Orangemarlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=210232016 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=210231458 QUOTE I don't know - we have an active contributor to Wikipedia Review apparently editing on behalf of another Wikipedia Review editor (who happens to be a permabanned editor). Not too big a leap at all... Guettarda (talk) 03:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC) That's right folks, I forgot to mention we re-programmed Krimpet a week or so ago and we are finally putting her to use. So sorry you had to wander into that mess Krimpet. |
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| The Joy |
Tue 6th May 2008, 3:41am
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 I am a millipede! I am amazing! Group: Regulars Posts: 3,820 Joined: Sat 17th Feb 2007, 2:25am From: The Moon Member No.: 982 |
Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get away with such uncollegial behavior? They are running off anyone that comes along. I've never seen such blind anger and pure hatred on a WP talk page before.
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| Giggy |
Tue 6th May 2008, 4:21am
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 1:41pm)  Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get away with such uncollegial behavior? They are running off anyone that comes along. I've never seen such blind anger and pure hatred on a WP talk page before. Because some admins are in the ID crowd too, and that crowd shouts louder. |
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| The Joy |
Tue 6th May 2008, 4:39am
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I am a millipede! I am amazing! Group: Regulars Posts: 3,820 Joined: Sat 17th Feb 2007, 2:25am From: The Moon Member No.: 982 |
QUOTE(Giggy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 12:21am) QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 1:41pm) Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get away with such uncollegial behavior? They are running off anyone that comes along. I've never seen such blind anger and pure hatred on a WP talk page before. Because some admins are in the ID crowd too, and that crowd shouts louder. Wouldn't a block speak louder than any shouting? Wouldn't a block silence the shouting? Why would Raul or any highly-respected Wikipedian defend these people? |
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| Giggy |
Tue 6th May 2008, 4:50am
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 2:39pm) QUOTE(Giggy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 12:21am) QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 1:41pm) Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get away with such uncollegial behavior? They are running off anyone that comes along. I've never seen such blind anger and pure hatred on a WP talk page before. Because some admins are in the ID crowd too, and that crowd shouts louder. Wouldn't a block speak louder than any shouting? Wouldn't a block silence the shouting? No, it wouldn't - think of them as Gianos (no offence, but it's the best example we have!), and you know a block will only result in more shouting. |
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| The Joy |
Tue 6th May 2008, 5:04am
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I am a millipede! I am amazing! Group: Regulars Posts: 3,820 Joined: Sat 17th Feb 2007, 2:25am From: The Moon Member No.: 982 |
QUOTE(Giggy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 12:50am) QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 2:39pm) QUOTE(Giggy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 12:21am) QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 6th May 2008, 1:41pm) Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get away with such uncollegial behavior? They are running off anyone that comes along. I've never seen such blind anger and pure hatred on a WP talk page before. Because some admins are in the ID crowd too, and that crowd shouts louder. Wouldn't a block speak louder than any shouting? Wouldn't a block silence the shouting? No, it wouldn't - think of them as Gianos (no offence, but it's the best example we have!), and you know a block will only result in more shouting. Has anyone tried disabling their e-mails and protecting their talk pages? That normally stops the shouting! I would be a cruel administrator, wouldn't I? I have an extraordinary amount of patience, but I would have to show these people the door. Especially with what they're doing to a BLP victim. |
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| Cla68 |
Tue 6th May 2008, 6:28am
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I just read the Picard article, and it appears to be fairly NPOV at the moment. The system "worked" in this case, thanks to Krimpet and the others who intervened. The anti-ID group is making a mistake with their thuggery because they've gone too far and are now on the radar of several editors and admins who are bothered enough by these editor's clownish antics to do something about it.
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| Derktar |
Tue 6th May 2008, 6:30am
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Mon 5th May 2008, 11:28pm) I just read the Picard article, and it appears to be fairly NPOV at the moment. The system "worked" in this case, thanks to Krimpet and the others who intervened. The anti-ID group is making a mistake with their thuggery because they've gone too far and are now on the radar of several editors and admins who are bothered enough by these editor's clownish antics to do something about it. Well this is how wikiworld works. Except eventually the heat dies down and uninvolved people stop caring/looking out and the thuggery begins again. |
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Well, at least he admits to what he and his team ... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:59pm Moulton Half the lies Filll is posting there aren't ev... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:57pm Moulton The NYT piece covered the controversy, but didn... Mon 5th May 2008, 4:02pm Sceptre Ack, Guettarda is not one of my favourite admins. ... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:09pm that one guy The good old "You share viewpoint X with bann... Mon 5th May 2008, 6:42pm Proabivouac
The good old "You share viewpoint X with ban... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:56pm Giggy
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After being slapped down on AN/I, Raul654 has [ur... Tue 6th May 2008, 2:50am Jon Awbrey
After being slapped down on AN/I, Raul654 has [u... Tue 6th May 2008, 3:46am Moulton Moulton, has Ms. Picard called attention to this t... Tue 6th May 2008, 7:40am Kato The talk page is embarrassing to read. It took me ... Tue 6th May 2008, 3:17am Derktar
[quote name='Giggy' post='99330' date='Tue 6th Ma... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:40am Somey I just read the Picard article, and it appears to ... Tue 6th May 2008, 6:37am Moulton I just read the Picard article, and it appears to ... Tue 6th May 2008, 8:17am Kato
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[quote name='Moulton' post='99582' date='Wed 7th ... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:30am dogbiscuit
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