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| Derktar |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Adm...er:Orangemarlin
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=210232016 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=210231458 QUOTE I don't know - we have an active contributor to Wikipedia Review apparently editing on behalf of another Wikipedia Review editor (who happens to be a permabanned editor). Not too big a leap at all... Guettarda (talk) 03:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC) That's right folks, I forgot to mention we re-programmed Krimpet a week or so ago and we are finally putting her to use. So sorry you had to wander into that mess Krimpet. |
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| Moulton |
Tue 6th May 2008, 7:12pm
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From the talk page colloquy...
QUOTE(Decorum) Decorum Things have been very heated for a few days at this article. Google does index talk pages, unfortunately, and I'm concerned that some of the commentary here is indecorous. Let's remember that this is a living person's biography. Suggest a judicious early archiving of some of these threads, and/or implementing expandable box format. DurovaCharge! 17:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC) If it wasn't for those walking in the footsteps of the banned user Moulton, we wouldn't be enjoying this fine conversation. Moulton's been recruiting meat puppets for this article for months at Wikipedia Review culminating in several large threads over the last 2 weeks and I have the diffs to prove it. Now in 24 hours we've had a wave of disruption from editors totally new to this article. Any of these who are active in the discussions at WR are simply acting on the behalf of a banned user, IOW, meat puppetry. I wonder if I'll see any names there I recognize from here? Odd nature (talk) 17:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC) |
| Sxeptomaniac |
Tue 6th May 2008, 10:53pm
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From the talk page colloquy... QUOTE(Decorum) Decorum Things have been very heated for a few days at this article. Google does index talk pages, unfortunately, and I'm concerned that some of the commentary here is indecorous. Let's remember that this is a living person's biography. Suggest a judicious early archiving of some of these threads, and/or implementing expandable box format. DurovaCharge! 17:25, 6 May 2008 (UTC) If it wasn't for those walking in the footsteps of the banned user Moulton, we wouldn't be enjoying this fine conversation. Moulton's been recruiting meat puppets for this article for months at Wikipedia Review culminating in several large threads over the last 2 weeks and I have the diffs to prove it. Now in 24 hours we've had a wave of disruption from editors totally new to this article. Any of these who are active in the discussions at WR are simply acting on the behalf of a banned user, IOW, meat puppetry. I wonder if I'll see any names there I recognize from here? Odd nature (talk) 17:37, 6 May 2008 (UTC) Heh. I found the whole "Moulton as puppetmaster" scenario quite laughable. We exchanged a number of PMs here on the issue, and I don't recall you ever asking me to do more than look at the problems. It seems beyond their comprehension that you could have had a valid reason for being upset with the articles' condition. Of course, since I've admitted communicating with you, the anti-ID crew now probably considers me your meatpuppet, in addition to their assumption that I'm already promoting ID, or some such nonsense. I also noticed the absurd branching out into Affective Computing, and Odd Nature decided to mess with the James Tour article as well. They couldn't have an absolute victory at Picard's article, so they went to find one somewhere else, I think. |
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Heh. I found the whole "Moulton as puppetmaster" scenario quite laughable. We exchanged a number of PMs here on the issue, and I don't recall you ever asking me to do more than look at the problems. It seems beyond their comprehension that you could have had a valid reason for being upset with the articles' condition. I'd be more than willing to release any PMs or E-Mails to dispel the notion that anyone is doing more than what their own conscience and personal values dictate. QUOTE Of course, since I've admitted communicating with you, the anti-ID crew now probably considers me your meatpuppet, in addition to their assumption that I'm already promoting ID, or some such nonsense. Didn't we overlap on WP before I was indef-blocked? I think you even commented in the RfC that Filll filed against me. QUOTE I also noticed the absurd branching out into Affective Computing, and Odd Nature decided to mess with the James Tour article as well. They couldn't have an absolute victory at Picard's article, so they went to find one somewhere else, I think. That will probably backfire on them. |
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I wonder if OrangeMarlin, Jim62sch, and their friends are aware how close they are to having their real names in the press in a story about a group of POV-pushers on Wikipedia? They probably aren't aware, as they appear to be amazingly myopic.
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I wonder if OrangeMarlin, Jim62sch, and their friends are aware how close they are to having their real names in the press in a story about a group of POV-pushers on Wikipedia? They probably aren't aware, as they appear to be amazingly myopic. What I find amazing is that these people, knowing that they are editing in the full view of a large number of watchers, including members of ArbCom (who themselves must be in more agonies of anticipation of how they are going to swing this one when it inevitably ends up at ArbCom) actually must believe what they are doing is sensible. That is the scary thing. I think they should be pulled over, sat them down and someone needs to play them the video tape evidence. Your good at RFCs aren't you? (And you should note that I am an editor of adequate standing as I make that comment). This is a gem: Fill's been watching too many episodes of 24. Beep, Beep, Beep, Beep |
Derktar A Scientific Dissent from Wikipedianism Mon 5th May 2008, 4:20am
Moulton Good grief. Mon 5th May 2008, 4:51am
Kato The treatment of Rosalind Picard's biography b... Mon 5th May 2008, 4:59am
Somey Disgusting!
It's a good example, though, ... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:22am
Moulton [quote name='Moulton' post='96701' date='Sun 27th ... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:34am
Somey Opt-out... Reciprocity... Opt-out... Reciprocity..... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:40am
Derktar
Opt-out... Reciprocity... Opt-out... Reciprocity.... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:42am
Moulton Here is some useful information...
The two-senten... Mon 5th May 2008, 6:21am
Jacina The way I see it is that we have 2 Theories (proba... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:17am

Proabivouac
The way I see it is that we have 2 Theories (prob... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:30am


Somey Additionally, I see no reason to believe that eith... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:35am


UserB
Additionally, I see no reason to believe that eit... Mon 5th May 2008, 12:40pm

Kato
The way I see it is that we have 2 Theories (prob... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:31am
Jon Awbrey
The puzzle of abiogenesis remains an unsolved pro... Mon 5th May 2008, 4:30pm
Somey Ehh, hopefully we can agree to disagree on the who... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:27am
Proabivouac
However, I do have qualms with people being targe... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:37am
Somey Who is responsible for ensuring the fairness and ... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:48am
Jacina Ah /shrug boils down to observation at the start, ... Mon 5th May 2008, 9:41am
Moulton I don't know anyone who disputes evolution as ... Mon 5th May 2008, 1:14pm
that one guy CBM has some respect in my book. Krimpet gets a s... Mon 5th May 2008, 2:07pm
Moulton Reading that firestorm in the wake of Krimpet... Mon 5th May 2008, 2:36pm
Jon Awbrey
Reading that firestorm in the wake of Krimpet... Mon 5th May 2008, 2:44pm
Moulton It looks like most of the remaining debate has set... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:37pm
Somey Well, at least he admits to what he and his team a... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:48pm
dogbiscuit
Well, at least he admits to what he and his team ... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:59pm
Moulton Half the lies Filll is posting there aren't ev... Mon 5th May 2008, 3:57pm
Moulton The NYT piece covered the controversy, but didn... Mon 5th May 2008, 4:02pm
Sceptre Ack, Guettarda is not one of my favourite admins. ... Mon 5th May 2008, 5:09pm
that one guy The good old "You share viewpoint X with bann... Mon 5th May 2008, 6:42pm
Proabivouac
The good old "You share viewpoint X with ban... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:56pm
Giggy
It seems obvious that Krimpet was moved to take a... Tue 6th May 2008, 3:40am
Moulton Kudos to Krimpet, aka Mrs. Moulton (or so we are t... Tue 6th May 2008, 8:00am
dogbiscuit It is worth noting this vote stacking technique th... Mon 5th May 2008, 7:37pm
Moulton I don't know how Krimpet came onto the case, b... Mon 5th May 2008, 9:39pm
tarantino After being slapped down on AN/I, Raul654 has prot... Tue 6th May 2008, 2:36am
The Joy
After being slapped down on AN/I, Raul654 has [ur... Tue 6th May 2008, 2:50am
Jon Awbrey
After being slapped down on AN/I, Raul654 has [u... Tue 6th May 2008, 3:46am
Moulton Moulton, has Ms. Picard called attention to this t... Tue 6th May 2008, 7:40am
Kato The talk page is embarrassing to read. It took me ... Tue 6th May 2008, 3:17am
The Joy Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get aw... Tue 6th May 2008, 3:41am
Giggy
Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get a... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:21am

The Joy
Why are administrators letting the ID crowd get ... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:39am

Derktar
[quote name='Giggy' post='99330' date='Tue 6th Ma... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:40am

Giggy
[quote name='Giggy' post='99330' date='Tue 6th Ma... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:50am

The Joy
[quote name='Giggy' post='99330' date='Tue 6th M... Tue 6th May 2008, 5:04am

Cla68 I just read the Picard article, and it appears to ... Tue 6th May 2008, 6:28am

Derktar
I just read the Picard article, and it appears to... Tue 6th May 2008, 6:30am

Somey I just read the Picard article, and it appears to ... Tue 6th May 2008, 6:37am

Moulton I just read the Picard article, and it appears to ... Tue 6th May 2008, 8:17am

Kato
But I am also mindful of the difficulty of mainta... Tue 6th May 2008, 1:51pm

Jon Awbrey
But I am also mindful of the difficulty of maint... Tue 6th May 2008, 2:06pm

dogbiscuit
But I am also mindful of the difficulty of maint... Tue 6th May 2008, 2:32pm


Moulton [quote name='Kato' post='99443' date='Tue 6th May ... Tue 6th May 2008, 5:03pm

Moulton But I am also mindful of the difficulty of maintai... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:25pm

Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Kato' post='99443' date='Tue 6th May... Tue 6th May 2008, 4:44pm
Proabivouac
I've never seen such blind anger and pure hat... Tue 6th May 2008, 8:49am
Moulton [quote name='The Joy' post='99317' date='Tue 6th M... Tue 6th May 2008, 9:05am
Proabivouac
Yes, it sometimes does.
Wait, Filll is himself... Tue 6th May 2008, 12:49pm

Moulton [quote name='Moulton' post='99377' date='Tue 6th M... Tue 6th May 2008, 1:15pm

Random832
Wait, Filll is himself claiming these credential... Tue 6th May 2008, 1:45pm
Moulton While this thread began with an opening sneeze inv... Thu 8th May 2008, 3:14pm
dogbiscuit
[quote name='Moulton' post='99377' date='Tue 6th ... Thu 8th May 2008, 3:41pm
that one guy The whole situation can be summed up as one big me... Tue 6th May 2008, 12:36pm


Cla68
I wonder if OrangeMarlin, Jim62sch, and their fr... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:41am

Piperdown
I wonder if OrangeMarlin, Jim62sch, and their fri... Wed 7th May 2008, 1:46am
Sxeptomaniac
[quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='99560' date='Tue... Tue 6th May 2008, 11:54pm
Moulton I noticed that, rather than work with you regardin... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:15am
dogbiscuit
I noticed that, rather than work with you regardi... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:28am
Derktar
[quote name='Moulton' post='99582' date='Wed 7th ... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:30am

dogbiscuit
Too many times have we seen this before. A new us... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:39am
Moulton [quote name='Moulton' post='99582' date='Wed 7th M... Wed 7th May 2008, 2:29am
Castle Rock God, he's a pathetic little man. PS Raul chec... Tue 6th May 2008, 11:03pm
Kato
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ta... Tue 6th May 2008, 11:42pm
tarantino
God, he's a pathetic little man. PS Raul che... Wed 7th May 2008, 1:37am
Kato I haven't paid that much attention to this cli... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:11am
Jon Awbrey I haven't followed this whole thread, so I don... Wed 7th May 2008, 2:56am
Moulton Filll admits the petition can be interpreted seven... Wed 7th May 2008, 3:23am
Kato
Filll admits the petition can be interpreted seve... Wed 7th May 2008, 3:37am
Moulton Rework the "Tour's field of organic...... Wed 7th May 2008, 4:52am

Kato
Rework the "Tour's field of organic...... Wed 7th May 2008, 5:04am
Sxeptomaniac
By the way, I'm staggered by the naivety of t... Wed 7th May 2008, 6:50am
Moulton Science is their religion, and they are the evange... Wed 7th May 2008, 11:59am
Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='99667' date='Wed... Wed 7th May 2008, 3:21pm
Sxeptomaniac
Science is their religion, and they are the evang... Wed 7th May 2008, 5:02pm
Moulton [quote name='Moulton' post='99711' date='Wed 7th M... Wed 7th May 2008, 9:18pm
Kato If you read the WP article on "A Scientific D... Wed 7th May 2008, 5:33am
Moulton Returning now to the latest postings in the colloq... Wed 7th May 2008, 12:47pm
Moulton [quote name='FCYTravis' post='95898' date='Thu 24t... Wed 7th May 2008, 1:58pm
Moulton Somewhere between last December and this week, som... Thu 8th May 2008, 3:40pm
Sxeptomaniac
Somewhere between last December and this week, [u... Thu 8th May 2008, 4:12pm
Kato The behavior of these people, who have now moved o... Thu 8th May 2008, 3:56pm
Moulton What's even more exasperating is that I'm ... Thu 8th May 2008, 3:58pm
Jon Awbrey
What's even more exasperating is that I'm... Thu 8th May 2008, 4:07pm
Moulton There's a box you can check if you want to kee... Thu 8th May 2008, 4:12pm
Moulton Is there some reason we can't all use open col... Thu 8th May 2008, 4:17pm![]() ![]() |
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