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A Request for Arbitration filed by FeloniousMonk looks like it will be accepted. SlimVirgin has already commented requesting acceptance, and her statement is really remarkably mild, all things considered.

Mod edit: Updated link here.--BobbyB
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But enough of speculation about the frontiers of science.

Let's get back to Dave Souza, who posts the following ...

QUOTE(Dave Souza on WP:AN)
Moulton is not disinterested about policy, he appears passionately committed to changing BLP so that information from reputable sources is overridden by personal anecdote and speculation about improbable potential harm. Expect extended and tendentious discussions in that area, and care should be taken to ensure that these views do not unduly override community consensus. ... dave souza, talk 12:15, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I've highlighted in red the portion of Dave's thesis that I propose we investigate to see if it's well-grounded in evidence and reasoning.

Does anyone here know of any evidence or analysis to support or refute the notion that the "information" Dave is referring to is in fact "reputably sourced"?

Does anyone here know of any evidence or analysis to support or refute the notion that such "information" cannot be overthrown except by "personal anecdote"?

Does anyone here know of any evidence or analysis to support or refute the notion that there is nought but "speculation about improbable potential harm"?


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Well I look forward to any results and so on you get. Can you point me to any good research on the subject or make a special new thread, as it is an interesting topic?

Kato, would you be kind enough to extract the set of posts on these diversions and create a new thread somewhere in the Lounge where we can comfortably explore these subjects without drowning out the Cla68 Deathwatch?
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The Joy   I saw that along with the undertow's ArbCom ca...  
Derktar   I saw that along with the undertow's ArbCom c...  
dogbiscuit   I saw that along with the undertow's ArbCom ...  
Moulton   I saw that along with the undertow's ArbCom ca...  
Kato   [quote name='Derktar' post='101730' date='Wed 14t...  
wikiwhistle   I saw that along with the undertow's ArbCom ...  
msharma   ArbCom will accept, will say that they are only in...  
The Joy   ArbCom will accept, will say that they are only i...  
msharma   ArbCom will accept, will say that they are only ...  
ThurstonHowell3rd   [quote name='The Joy' post='101749' date='Wed 14t...  
Giano   ArbCom will accept, will say that they are only ...  
Somey   Dang. I wouldn't have thought they'd fall ...  
Robster   So FM wants ArbCom to enjoin Cla68 from the very...  
JohnA   IRONY ALERT: SLIMVIRGIN Sounds like Slimmy want...  
ThurstonHowell3rd   IRONY ALERT: SLIMVIRGIN Sounds like Slimmy wan...  
Milton Roe   IRONY ALERT: SLIMVIRGIN Sounds like Slimmy wa...  
Peter Damian   Heh. Watching that page go up evidently caused a ...  
Somey   I award this image 'best metaphor' prize o...  
Moulton   Heh. Watching that page go up evidently caused a b...  
Kyaa the Catlord   Jeez, Cla was a rare breed for an administrator. ...  
Pumpkin Muffins   IRONY ALERT: SLIMVIRGIN Sounds like Slimmy wan...  
CrazyGameOfPoker   Real subtle, Tony.  
ThurstonHowell3rd   Real subtle, Tony. I have never understood with ...  
Aloft   Why do you even bother with that place, Cla68? Rea...  
Cla68   Why do you even bother with that place, Cla68? Re...  
Somey   If the article is more biased after their edits, j...  
Cla68   If the article is more biased after their edits, ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='Cla68' post='102149' date='Fri 16th ...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Cla68' post='102149' date='Fri 16th ...  
Wizardman   Jeez, Cla was a rare breed for an administrator. ...  
Neil   To clarify Wizardman's somewhat cryptic commen...  
Kyaa the Catlord   To clarify Wizardman's somewhat cryptic comme...  
Kato   Yes. Cla68 had his adminship request scuppered by ...  
Moulton   Cla68 is based in Japan. Is he also known to his f...  
BobbyBombastic   How quickly the arbs accepted this and Kirill...  
Neil   User:Cla68/Sandbox/RfC_draft now has exactly 300 d...  
msharma   User:Cla68/Sandbox/RfC_draft now has exactly 300 ...  
Kato   mod note: posts about Kirill and Moulton's arb...  
badlydrawnjeff   I do love that they're willing to protect Slim...  
EuroSceptic   Hummm, if the evidence against Cla68 remains of th...  
Aloft   Hummm, if the evidence against Cla68 remains of t...  
Kato   [quote name='EuroSceptic' post='102349' date='Fri...  
dogbiscuit   [quote name='Aloft' post='102353' date='Sat 17th ...  
Sceptre   I think Cla should at least be warned to check him...  
Aloft   I think Cla should at least be warned to check hi...  
Kato   Even more worrying is the ambiguous post by Cla s...  
Sceptre   Even more worrying is the ambiguous post by Cla ...  
dogbiscuit   [quote name='Kato' post='102370' date='Sat 17th M...  
KamrynMatika   Sceptre is talking about this: http://en.wikipedia...  
Moulton   His comments were based on the fact that people ha...  
Kato   Someone called "Dave Souza" has added hi...  
Moulton   Dave Souza was probably the most decent editor in ...  
Bob Boy   Dave Souza was probably the most decent editor in...  
Kato   Kato, would you be kind enough to extract the set...  
Viridae   I am finding it very funny that the arbcom case is...  
UserB   I am finding it very funny that the arbcom case i...  
Cla68   I am finding it very funny that the arbcom case ...  
ThurstonHowell3rd   "Insulting or disparaging an editor is a per...  
Heat   I am finding it very funny that the arbcom case i...  
Aloft   The big surprise is that neither Jay nor Crum hav...  
Herschelkrustofsky   I am finding it very funny that the arbcom case i...  
Neil   This piece of evidence from Mackan79 is interestin...  
dogbiscuit   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reque...  
guy   was that the same Nathan of WR one wonders - Nath...  
Derktar   http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid...  
Derktar   Oh, and still no comment by the arbs on possible o...  
Milton Roe   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requ...  
dogbiscuit   Burnout or not, the fact that the article got mor...  
One   His harassers seem to count the Mantanmoreland cas...  
UserB   Does B have a history with FM? B's section s...  
Herschelkrustofsky   My strong preference is that everything prior to ...  
dtobias   My strong preference is that everything prior to ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='UserB' post='104229' date='Sat 24th ...  
Cedric   [quote name='One' post='104218' date='Sat 24th Ma...  
Moulton   Evidence and reasoning of User:Filll regarding Cla...  
wikiwhistle   [quote name='Moulton' post='104259' date='Sun 25th...  
taiwopanfob   Clearly Cla68 is a great asset in some areas, an...  
Moulton   Filll has drank the WikiAid completely. No extern...  
taiwopanfob   With all due respect, I am obliged as a scientist ...  
Moulton   [quote name='Moulton' post='104292' date='Sun 25th...  
taiwopanfob   Here, here and here, although to be fair, it's...  
Moulton   The first source is an unsuccessful unblock, for t...  
One   Editor William M. COInnolley proposed several biza...  
Moulton   Where the hell did I leave my Flux Capacitor?  
Milton Roe   Where the hell did I leave my Flux Capacitor? Se...  
Achromatic   Rapidly turning into another Mantan-like farce. Pe...  
Kato   Rapidly turning into another Mantan-like farce. P...  
dtobias   The "evidence" phase of an ArbCom case d...  
One   That list is classic, but we need a replacement fo...  
KamrynMatika   That list is classic, but we need a replacement f...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Instead, precedent is eschewed, and offenses are ...  
CrazyGameOfPoker   Instead, precedent is eschewed, and offenses are...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Let the clusterfuck begin. As a public service, I...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='Herschelkrustofsky' post='104347' da...  
Moulton   What interests me here is the definition or charac...  
Aloft   There's talk of adding Crum375 as a party too.  
Herschelkrustofsky   There's talk of adding Crum375 as a party too...  
Piperdown   There's talk of adding Crum375 as a party too...  
Neil   [quote name='CrazyGameOfPoker' post='104352' date...  
Aloft   Tony Sidaway had also decided to add himself as a...  
Cla68   [quote name='Neil' post='104507' date='Tue 27th M...  
Moulton   Perhaps they should rename the case to "The B...  
Viridae   Heh. How apt. I dunno what Cla does, but seeing th...  
Neil   Heh. How apt. I dunno what Cla does, but seeing t...  
Proabivouac   Heh. How apt. I dunno what Cla does, but seeing ...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Neil' post='104513' date='Tue 27th M...  
Viridae   Heh. How apt. I dunno what Cla does, but seeing ...  
Moulton   You want a scientist? I'll give you a scient...  
Viridae   Yes indeed it is. I wonder who that actually is?  
Moulton   Yes indeed it is. I wonder who that actually is? I...  
Milton Roe   Yes indeed it is. I wonder who that actually is? ...  
Neil   [quote name='Viridae' post='104694' date='Wed 28t...  
Viridae   Someone pointed out that Tony is a huge drama whor...  
Viridae   Yes indeed it is. I wonder who that actually is? ...  
dtobias   I like where Tony recently commented about me that...  
Milton Roe   I like where Tony recently commented about [i]me ...  
prospero   Given that Krill has recused and isn't reconsi...  
dogbiscuit   Moderator note: Riddle posts split here  
Kato   SandyGeorgia, the hardest working editor on the si...  
Herschelkrustofsky   SandyGeorgia, the hardest working editor on the s...  
Pumpkin Muffins   SandyGeorgia, the hardest working editor on the s...  
Cla68   SandyGeorgia, the hardest working editor on the s...  
wikiwhistle   The personal attacks launched on Sandy by SV and...  
Cla68   The personal attacks launched on Sandy by SV an...  
Herschelkrustofsky   These tactics of retaliating against or attacking...  
Viridae   ITs some pretty damn strong evidence she has prese...  
Moulton   Is it fair to say this is shaping up to be an epic...  
Moulton   Isn't Megiddo Junction the anticipated place o...  
Milton Roe   Isn't Megiddo Junction the anticipated place ...  
dtobias   Sure. Armegiddo, the last battle. As seen on Sesa...  
Milton Roe   Sure. Armegiddo, the last battle. As seen on Ses...  
dtobias   I've never understood the dynamic in the whole...  
wikiwhistle   I've never understood the dynamic in the whol...  
LessHorrid vanU   I've never understood the dynamic in the who...  
wikiwhistle   So to recap; Matisse and Z were already edit wa...  
LessHorrid vanU   So to recap; Matisse and Z were already edit w...  
wikiwhistle   Perhaps, but why not - after all, Z requested m...  
Herschelkrustofsky   I've never understood the dynamic in the whol...  
badlydrawnjeff   Sadly, when I was reading SG's evidence, the o...  
Derktar   Sadly, when I was reading SG's evidence, the ...  
CrazyGameOfPoker   Mongo's evidence on Viridae...is spectacularly...  
SenseMaker   Mongo's evidence on Viridae...is spectacularl...  
that one guy   Mongo, sheesh, like to dig yourself holes eh?  
badlydrawnjeff   My personal favorite thing about Mongo's evide...  
Moulton   "Whosoever goes on a journey of revenge had b...  
that one guy   The real funny thing is there's enough evidenc...  
Saltimbanco   The peculiar thing is that if you take just one or...  
dogbiscuit   The peculiar thing is that if you take just one o...  
Milton Roe   [SlimVirgin] is responsible for embedding one of ...  
dogbiscuit   [SlimVirgin] is responsible for embedding one of...  
Lar   [SlimVirgin] is responsible for embedding one of...  
wikiwhistle   Oddly, while I am not so sure about various mach...  
dogbiscuit   There are many topics for which it is not possibl...  
Moulton   The Rosalind Picard is a classic example, where yo...  
Bob Boy   She is responsible for embedding one of the most...  
SenseMaker   This reminds of an incident last year when the sci...  
Moulton   It's also important not to elevate such specul...  
Lar   It's also important not to elevate such specu...  
Moulton   It's also important not to elevate such specul...  
Bob Boy   [quote name='Moulton' post='105532' date='Sun 1st...  
Moulton   [color=#990000]I saw KillerChihauhua's stateme...  
Random832   [quote name='Lar' post='105534' date='Sun 1st Jun...  
Viridae   The funny thing is, I am a staunch athiest - and w...  
Bob Boy   The funny thing is, I am a staunch athiest - and ...  
Firsfron of Ronchester   ID is IMO summed up very well by this quote (of ...  
Moulton   On the Arbitration page, KillerChihuahua writes: ...  
Saltimbanco   Wikipedia would do well to create a policy on ...  
Moulton   SandyGeorgia has offered a comprehensive and syste...  
dogbiscuit   Moderator note: Dawkins discussion split off to h...  
Moulton   Isn't whitewashing (in the literal sense of th...  
CrazyGameOfPoker   No, it's more or less painting over the grime,...  
dtobias   But if you're Tom Sawyer, at least you can con...  
GlassBeadGame   But if you're Tom Sawyer, at least you can co...  
Milton Roe   But if you're Tom Sawyer, at least you can c...  
GlassBeadGame   But if you're Tom Sawyer, at least you can ...  
Moulton   Why is the word 'wash' in there, if there ...  
Random832   Why is the word 'wash' in there, if there...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Why is the word 'wash' in there, if there...  
Milton Roe   Why is the word 'wash' in there, if ther...  
CrazyGameOfPoker   hm I have taken this anon's advice to h...  
Milton Roe   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wi...  
Moulton   Ooh! Osculating circles.  


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