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| Kato |
 Tue 27th May 2008, 11:57pm
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| Jon Awbrey |
Wed 28th May 2008, 9:16pm
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I think that this thread went off topic somewhere about the time that Rootology weighed in with his Unaccountable Liteness Of Being Rootologous, so maybe that tangent could be split off to some interphase dimension or something?
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| Rootology |
Wed 28th May 2008, 9:32pm
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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Wed 28th May 2008, 2:16pm)  I think that this thread went off topic somewhere about the time that Rootology weighed in with his Unaccountable Liteness Of Being Rootologous, so maybe that tangent could be split off to some interphase dimension or something? Kato asked: QUOTE(Kato @ Tue 27th May 2008, 4:57pm) Does anyone disagree with that statement? And I replied. No one has successfully refuted my statements, and have only dismissed them out of hand. I guess I hit a raw nerve by pointing out that Wikipedia's model is the model of the Internet's current culture, and by explaining how you CAN'T stop anonymous speech due to technical limitations. I don't believe my basically nuking the "We hate WP" lovefest this one time with facts deserves burying. The question as posed in this thread was completely wrong, and an attack on the unlimited and unrestricted free speech power that makes the Internet the valuable communications tool it is. If you have a problem with the points I raised, prove them wrong with a good argument or facts. It shouldn't be hard, right? This post has been edited by Rootology: Wed 28th May 2008, 9:34pm |
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| Jon Awbrey |
Wed 28th May 2008, 9:36pm
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τὰ δέ μοι παθήματα μαθήματα γέγονε Group: Moderators Posts: 6,738 Joined: Sun 6th Apr 2008, 4:52am From: Meat Puppet Nation Member No.: 5,619 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
QUOTE(Rootology @ Wed 28th May 2008, 5:32pm) QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Wed 28th May 2008, 2:16pm) I think that this thread went off topic somewhere about the time that Rootology weighed in with his Unaccountable Liteness Of Being Rootologous, so maybe that tangent could be split off to some interphase dimension or something? Kato asked: QUOTE(Kato @ Tue 27th May 2008, 4:57pm) Does anyone disagree with that statement? And I replied. No one has successfully refuted my statements, and have only dismissed them out of hand. I guess I hit a raw nerve by pointing out that Wikipedia's model is the model of the Internet's current culture, and by explaining how you CAN'T stop anonymous speech due to technical limitations. I don't believe my basically nuking the "We hate WP" lovefest this one time with facts deserves burying. The question as posed in this thread was completely wrong, and an attack on the valuable unlimited free speech power that makes the Internet the valuable communications tool it is. You have the Internet confused with Usenet. Are you saying that the Wikipedia model doesn't present serious problems? Jon This post has been edited by Jon Awbrey: Wed 28th May 2008, 9:38pm |
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Kato Power of Wikipedia + Lack of Accountability = Bad News Tue 27th May 2008, 11:57pm
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[*][b]Due ... Wed 28th May 2008, 12:40am
Rootology due to the visibility of wikipedia articles, and t... Wed 28th May 2008, 5:44pm Jon Awbrey
I believe I've said before that Wikipedia is ... Wed 28th May 2008, 5:52pm Rootology
Most respectable publishers in the real world ear... Wed 28th May 2008, 6:18pm Angela Kennedy
... This argument you've presented is basica... Thu 29th May 2008, 7:43am Jon Awbrey
This argument you've presented is basically ... Thu 29th May 2008, 11:36am thekohser
... Do Wikipedia articles get slanted sometimes ... Thu 29th May 2008, 12:41pm Jon Awbrey
Do Wikipedia articles get slanted sometimes in t... Thu 29th May 2008, 12:48pm Moulton I believe I've said before that Wikipedia is m... Wed 28th May 2008, 7:46pm Milton Roe
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[*][b]Due ... Wed 28th May 2008, 12:54am Giggy I tend to agree with that statement, though I... Wed 28th May 2008, 12:56am Moulton The main problem with the statement is that it... Wed 28th May 2008, 1:16am Milton Roe
The main problem with the statement is that it... Wed 28th May 2008, 1:40am Kato
The main problem with the statement is that it... Wed 28th May 2008, 3:05am Jon Awbrey If memory serves — don't ask who controls th... Wed 28th May 2008, 2:24am Milton Roe
If memory serves — don't ask who controls t... Wed 28th May 2008, 4:16am Jon Awbrey
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[*][b]Due ... Wed 28th May 2008, 3:52am Jon Awbrey RE: Power of Wikipedia + Lack of Accountability = Bad News Wed 28th May 2008, 4:28am everyking There are some problems with lack of accountabilit... Wed 28th May 2008, 4:42am Angela Kennedy
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[*][b]Due ... Wed 28th May 2008, 8:03am Jon Awbrey Angela,
The problems that you mention have a lot ... Wed 28th May 2008, 2:10pm Jon Awbrey No one here is saying any automatically bad things... Wed 28th May 2008, 6:24pm Rootology
No one here is saying any automatically bad thing... Wed 28th May 2008, 6:28pm Jon Awbrey Don't let this beautiful fantasy about a wikip... Wed 28th May 2008, 6:34pm Rootology
Don't let this beautiful fantasy about a wiki... Wed 28th May 2008, 6:36pm Jon Awbrey I have answered all of these questions, time and a... Wed 28th May 2008, 6:45pm Rootology I have answered all of these questions, time and a... Wed 28th May 2008, 7:00pm thekohser Root, I think Jonny is saying that the pinprick is... Wed 28th May 2008, 7:10pm Rootology Root, I think Jonny is saying that the pinprick is... Wed 28th May 2008, 7:20pm Kato
But that's one point I disagree on as well. W... Wed 28th May 2008, 7:52pm Rootology The whole process lacks any checks or balances, no... Wed 28th May 2008, 8:58pm Jon Awbrey
Root, I think Jonny is saying that the pinprick i... Wed 28th May 2008, 7:24pm Rootology You have the Internet confused with Usenet.
No, I... Wed 28th May 2008, 9:41pm darbyl
I never said that, no. I also never said that th... Wed 28th May 2008, 10:34pm Rootology Accountability has nothing to do with anonymity. ... Wed 28th May 2008, 10:54pm dogbiscuit
[quote name='darbyl' post='104826' date='Wed 28th... Thu 29th May 2008, 12:29am Jon Awbrey Pure Helium …
You obviously have no clue how mu... Wed 28th May 2008, 10:06pm Rootology You obviously have no clue how much easier it is f... Wed 28th May 2008, 10:08pm Jon Awbrey
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In order to this, you need to understand what th... Thu 29th May 2008, 10:40pm dogbiscuit
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If you apply some basic systems thinking princip... Thu 29th May 2008, 3:00pm Jon Awbrey
You're comparing Fear of Vandalism to Fear of... Thu 29th May 2008, 3:12pm Neil
That's one analysis, yes but another (from c... Thu 29th May 2008, 3:16pm Jon Awbrey
[quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='104956' date='Thu ... Thu 29th May 2008, 3:26pm thekohser
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In order to this, you need to understand what t... Fri 30th May 2008, 8:34am Jon Awbrey
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