Lolicon, some light relief Options

[Moulton]

No Milk Today

Artist : Herman's Hermits and the MuseNet Players
Title : No Milk Today
Midi : No Milk Today (Instrumental)
MP3 : No Milk Today, Original version, Sung by Herman's Hermits

No milk today, my fix has gone astray
The bottle stands forlorn, a symbol of the dawn
No milk today, it seems a common sight
But people passing by don't know the reason why

How could they know just what this message means
The end of my hopes, the end of all my dreams
How could they know the palace there had been
Behind the blouse where Oxytocin reigned as queen

No milk today, it wasn't always so
The company was gay, we'd turn night into day

But all that's left is a place dark and lonely
An unsafe park on a mean street back of town
Becomes a shrine when I think of you only
Just two up two down

No milk today, it wasn't always so
The company was gay, we'd turn night into day
As music played the faster flashed the lance
We felt it both at once, the death of our romance

How could they know just what this message means
The end of my hopes, the end of all my dreams
How could they know a palace there had been
Behind the screen where Durova reigned as queen

No milk today, my fix has gone astray
The bottle stands for love, a symbol of the dawn

But all that's left is a place dark and lonely
A terraced house in a mean street back of town
Becomes a shrine when I think of you only
Just two up two down

No milk today, my love has gone away
The bottle stands for love, a symbol of the dawn
No milk today, it seems a common sight
But people passing by don't know why I'm a fright

How could they know just what this message means
The end of my hopes, the end of all my dreams
How could they know a palace there had been
Behind the louse where Oxytocin reigned as queen

No milk today, it wasn't always so
The company was gay, we'd turn night into day

But all that's left is a place dark and lonely
An unsafe park on a mean street back of town
Oh all that's left is a place dark and lonely
An unsafe park on a mean street back of town
Oh all that's left is a place dark and lonely
An unsafe park on a mean street back of town

CopyClef 2008 Herman's Hermits and Barsoom Tork Associates.

[lolwut]

Thanks for that mp3. You wouldn't happen to have an mp3 of "I'm Into Something Good" by the same band? I couldn't find it on SoulSeek last time I looked.

[Peter Damian]

So if you pretend we are a highly evolved bunch, above animal stimulus, you will find these "aberrant behaviours" shocking. If you subscribe to the view of us just being cleverer animals, it becomes a lot easier to rationalise. That does not mean that they are acceptable, just unsurprising.

This is very similar to arguments the Marquis de Sade used. His heroes sexually abuse, torture, rape maim and kill their weaker victims. The argument he gives to justify this is that some people are weak, others strong. Some of the stronger ones have certain desires given to them by Nature, such as to sexually abuse, torture &c. Because Nature is the cause of it, it is morally OK to sexually abuse, torture &c.

This argument was called by later philosophers the 'naturalistic fallacy'. Our genes program us to do this, ergo we are morally obliged to do this.

[dogbiscuit]

So if you pretend we are a highly evolved bunch, above animal stimulus, you will find these "aberrant behaviours" shocking. If you subscribe to the view of us just being cleverer animals, it becomes a lot easier to rationalise. That does not mean that they are acceptable, just unsurprising.

This is very similar to arguments the Marquis de Sade used. His heroes sexually abuse, torture, rape maim and kill their weaker victims. The argument he gives to justify this is that some people are weak, others strong. Some of the stronger ones have certain desires given to them by Nature, such as to sexually abuse, torture &c. Because Nature is the cause of it, it is morally OK to sexually abuse, torture &c.

This argument was called by later philosophers the 'naturalistic fallacy'. Our genes program us to do this, ergo we are morally obliged to do this.

Well, I don't agree with the extrapolation from understanding why things may occur into accepting they should occur - there is a big difference between that and a moral obligation. It is the same fallacy as claiming that understanding the motivation of terrorists means that you approve of them - (to pick a favourite of this board) we may understand the frustration of the Palestinians leading to their violent responses without agreeing it is an appropriate response. It would however lead us to recognise that if you can resolve those issues then it is likely that the response to the situation will cease - which is quite a different logic to "giving into terrorism".

My main point is that we should not be overly surprised that paedophilia occurs to some extent, but we should not assume that because we view it as extremely abhorrent that it has some extreme and rare cause. I guess my thoughts there are that there are plenty of people who chose not to manage those inappropriate urges and could, excusing themselves with the "only natural" explanation, perhaps leading them onto more and more inappropriate responses as they do not get the negative feedback, for example in environments such as Wikipedia.

[guy]

Well, Carroll did seem to have an unusually intense fascination with young girls, including the real-life Alice about whom his Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass books were based.

That's a myth. Apparently, after his death his family wanted to cover up any suggestion that he had any improper relationships with adult women (including Alice's mother) so they destroyed the evidence and left everyone to think he only liked children.

[Moulton]

Thanks for that mp3. You wouldn't happen to have an mp3 of "I'm Into Something Good" by the same band? I couldn't find it on SoulSeek last time I looked.

I just now found it here: I'm Into Something Good

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