Week-Long Block, No Warning, And MONGO rises to challenge... Options

[jd turk]

Wikipedia's "Assume Good Faith" rubric is one of the more ridiculous charades in the place. We are not bound by it here.

If we had a silly set of useless rules, ours would likely be something like "Assume Reality" -- obviously not a sentiment that would travel far on WP.

Agreed, if you have to give an IP editor four warnings before you can block him for replacing articles with the word "poop," good faith is a stretch.

As for assuming reality, the reality is that the block was a bad one and reversed by a comfortable consensus. The two editors have now been warned and anything approaching an edit war will probably be taken care of quickly by previously uninvolved admins...which is what should have happened in the beginning.

It would have saved a lot of drama, which is apparently still going on several hours after the blocks were reversed.

[gomi]

The reality is that Crummy, as one of SlimeVirgin's posse, is immune from meaningful sanctions on Wikipedia because of pervasive, systemic corruption.

[jd turk]

The reality is that Crummy, as one of SlimeVirgin's posse, is immune from meaningful sanctions on Wikipedia because of pervasive, systemic corruption.

Oh. Glad I asked. I figured it was something simple like that, rather than it being a bad block.

Just for future reference, I have no dog in this fight and don't care to. I don't know who WR loves and who WR hates, and it doesn't really matter to me. I was just pointing out the situation on ANI here for discussion, since WR has a much better perspective on things sometimes than WP.

[The Joy]

MONGO and friends are not happy with you, Viridae.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DHeyward#Viridae

I hope you're not trying to commit wiki-seppuku.

[Aloft]

MONGO and friends are not happy with you, Viridae.

Aw, how cute. I've noticed this tactic on Wikipedia before. Carry on a provocative conversation about someone where they are likely to see, and then you can wave your arms in righteous indignation if you manage to incite them into responding. Reminds me how some girls used to act in high school.

This post has been edited by Aloft: Sat 12th July 2008, 7:54am

[maggot3]

iirc wikimapia is strongly discouraged according to wp:el, as its copyright status is dubious, at least according to what sfan00 told me - hence his removal of the link several times. i love crum375's "please stop warring" while warring himself.

[dogbiscuit]

Just to note that Crum's only interest in this article will be as a proxy for SlimVirgin, who authored most of it as part of her long term aim of getting animal rights fully documented. Crum is quite happy to take the heat for this, and it is not an isolated incident. It would be stupid to ignore his abusive behaviour, and I agree that any administrator should need no warning whatsoever for edit warring.

It was not for nothing that Crum got the tag team of the year award 2007. What is therefore more depressing is that other admins pretend to have no knowledge of Crum's abusive behaviour, even when carefully documented in ArbCom proceedings.

[that one guy]

MONGO and friends are not happy with you, Viridae.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DHeyward#Viridae

I hope you're not trying to commit wiki-seppuku.

DHeyward:Mongo::Crum:Slimvirgin (or for those of you who didn't do wordmasters, DHeyward and Mongo are like Crum and SV, practical meat puppets).

Dogbiscuit: I'm sure more admins than you think are aware of it. They're just too chickenshit to do anything about it because they know SV and crew will dig up every piece of little evidence against them, toss it around off wiki, then send it all to arbcom and open up a case.

[guy]

It doesn't seem like you were on this article trying to help establish consensus or trying to sort through things, it looks like you just surfed on and blocked both sides with no warning and no discussion

Ah, but had he been involved in the discussions and then blocked, theree would have been a claim of CoI.

[Moulton]

MONGO and friends are not happy with you, Viridae.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DHeyward#Viridae

I hope you're not trying to commit wiki-seppuku.

Viridae
I am really puzzled by this guy. --MONGO

Ooh! Perplexity! An emotional state I can empathize with.

[Abd]

Well, this is really old. I was just looking up some information from meta, Remedy 1 in the MONGO RfAr, and saw many of the familiar names. That was 2006, before I became aware of the mainstage Dramaz. Rootology, at that point, was not an administrator, and reading the RfAr, I'm struck by how lightly ArbComm took MONGO's actions, and how heavily they sanctioned Rootology, nothing is presented as evidence (in the findings) supporting the drastic remedy they applied. This looks quite like the drastic preference shown for administrators that I later saw. MONGO, the day after the case closed, used his tools to protect the ED page from re-creation, I can imagine him doing a little victory dance.

Mongo is still editing, for better or worse.

Rootology came back, after that indef ArbComm site ban, and became an administrator, then retired, and the timing of that might be related to my own RfAr, Abd-William M. Connolley, because WMC -- who had been involved in the original ED mess and the MONGO RfAr -- revert warred with him over what should have been a routine notification of Hipocrite re my RfAr. No clerk lifted a finger over that, so I'm guessing that it was a kind of last straw for him. Or it was completely unrelated, he'd just had enough.

[Milton Roe]

Well, this is really old. I was just looking up some information from meta, Remedy 1 in the

NECROTHREAD

[Abd]

NECROTHREAD

Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

The thread is very old. I decided not to start a new one. This really wasn't about MONGO, though. Not now, not then.