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Apathetic
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KamrynMatika
post Tue 5th August 2008, 7:07am
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If anyone needs to be banned really, it's Sceptre. ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(KamrynMatika @ Tue 5th August 2008, 12:07am) *

If anyone needs to be banned really, it's Sceptre. ph34r.gif


Agreed, just as much drama, twice as annoying.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...WilliamH#Oppose
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post Tue 5th August 2008, 4:22pm
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Wow. What an amazingly pointy oppose. How shameful and hypocritical.
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Tue 5th August 2008, 9:22am) *

QUOTE(Apathetic @ Tue 5th August 2008, 11:47am) *

Wow. What an amazingly pointy oppose. How shameful and hypocritical.

It is. However, though poor WilliamH's RfA is not the venue to express the thought, less-nice people have been uncivil forever (SV, JzG, etc), and the community is completely unable to do anything about it. Where there is no enforcement, there is really no law. Also, although I can't think of a specific instance where Jimbo has been very uncivil--- he tends to say: "Sorry, you're banned forever, and your friends. Much love. Go in peace."---- at the same time if he were to become uncivil, there'd be even less anybody could do about it than for JzG and SV. Not unless the WMF board decided they were grossly offended.

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Also, although I can't think of a specific instance where Jimbo has been very uncivil--- he tends to say: "Sorry, you're banned forever, and your friends. Much love. Go in peace."

So you don't think this block log summary is "very uncivil"?
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QUOTE(Shalom @ Tue 5th August 2008, 3:40pm) *

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Also, although I can't think of a specific instance where Jimbo has been very uncivil--- he tends to say: "Sorry, you're banned forever, and your friends. Much love. Go in peace."

So you don't think this block log summary is "very uncivil"?

Hadn't seen that one; thanks for pointing it out. Yeah, an indef block with the comment "ugh" is uncivil. Not the worst I've ever seen, mind you, but it qualifies, I admit.

Sigh. The provocation for the ban was a historical view to make one's skin crawl, and I've got a thick skin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Fourdee

However, I would think it would take a lot more case-by-case stomping before giving up on an editor. Particularly since WP claims to be NPOV and uncensored. I could say "ugh" about a lot of what many editors have successfully inserted into WP. This guy's major problem is that it had to do with Nazi history and not somebody else's hot button. You think this guy would have been banniated if he's said all the same things about the Armenian genocide or the mass starvation of Kulaks? I doubt it.

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Apathetic   Sceptre calls for ban of Kurt Weber   Mon 4th August 2008, 2:07pm
dtobias   For somebody who actually participates here, Scept...   Mon 4th August 2008, 2:28pm
Disillusioned Lackey   For somebody who actually participates here, Scep...   Mon 4th August 2008, 2:42pm
Apathetic   RFAR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFAR#...   Mon 4th August 2008, 2:45pm
Random832   RFAR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RFAR...   Mon 4th August 2008, 3:01pm
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dtobias   He's used IRC on more than two occasions to m...   Mon 4th August 2008, 3:36pm
Alex   He's used IRC on more than two occasions to ...   Mon 4th August 2008, 3:45pm
wikiwhistle   although he has sent me personal messages on thi...   Mon 4th August 2008, 4:12pm
Herschelkrustofsky   although he has sent me personal messages on th...   Mon 4th August 2008, 9:48pm
EricBarbour   Kurt has an account here, but I don't think h...   Tue 12th August 2008, 3:27am
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Kelly Martin   I'm not using any "WR is evil" hype...   Mon 4th August 2008, 4:21pm
Proabivouac   Kurt has engaged in behaviour that, when viewed b...   Mon 4th August 2008, 10:08pm
ColScott   I'm not using any "WR is evil" hype...   Wed 6th August 2008, 4:15pm
Kurt M. Weber   I'm not using any "WR is evil" hype...   Mon 11th August 2008, 10:32pm
Alex   Kurt most certainly needs banning, or at least a t...   Mon 4th August 2008, 3:30pm
Mr. Mystery   well, speaking for myself, i started posting regul...   Mon 4th August 2008, 10:39pm
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everyking   While I can't say I approve of all of Kurt...   Tue 5th August 2008, 3:28am
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Doc glasgow   And Sceptre? Sheeeesh, gives him exactly what h...   Mon 11th August 2008, 10:55pm
Apathetic   If you can't beat 'em, join 'em http:...   Tue 5th August 2008, 3:47pm
LaraLove   If you can't beat 'em, join 'em http...   Tue 5th August 2008, 4:22pm
Shalom   [quote name='Shalom' post='119444' date='Tue 5th ...   Tue 5th August 2008, 11:33pm
Crestatus   And the thing is, I think I see future Kurts devel...   Tue 5th August 2008, 7:33am
Crestatus   Sceptre is really showing itself for the drain on ...   Tue 5th August 2008, 4:28pm
CrazyGameOfPoker   He's also been blanking the List of Fascist Mo...   Tue 5th August 2008, 9:19pm
everyking   Some people are making ArbCom statements to the ef...   Wed 6th August 2008, 12:27am
Shalom   I was told by Raul, in no uncertain terms, that t...   Wed 6th August 2008, 2:16am
everyking   [quote name='everyking' post='119466' date='Tue 5...   Wed 6th August 2008, 2:35am
sarcasticidealist   In the interests of all involved individuals havin...   Wed 6th August 2008, 6:04am
everyking   In the interests of all involved individuals havi...   Wed 6th August 2008, 6:09am
The Joy   [quote name='sarcasticidealist' post='119509' dat...   Wed 6th August 2008, 6:17am
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JoseClutch   The latter definition is negative. Wikipedia sho...   Wed 6th August 2008, 7:14pm
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Apathetic   fluent in bullshit   Fri 8th August 2008, 12:56am
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