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Rootology
post Sun 14th September 2008, 7:23pm
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http://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?titl...=User%3AMoulton

http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity..._for_incivility

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Block of Moulton for incivility

After discussion with other admins, in which I was requested to personally make this block, I have indef blocked Moulton from this project. It is my belief that he was not here in a good faith effort to create learning materials, but rather was here to carry out his ongoing campaign against people who he thinks treated him unfairly at Wikipedia. After reviewing his case at Wikipedia, I think this is clearly not the case: he was properly blocked at Wikipedia, and should be blocked on sight from any Wikimedia project where he surfaces with a similar agenda.

I would recommend that a significant number of the attack pages be deleted, and the project protected at least for now, pending a good community discussion of what something like this should look like.

There are always difficult growing pains for young commuities; I have seen it in many languages and many projects. I encourage Wikiversity to review the "ethics" project - which, it seems to me could be an interesting project if handled appropriately - with an eye towards developing principles for dealing with such projects in the future. One idea that I would like to propose is an explicit ban on "case studies" using real examples of non-notable people, in exchange for hypotheticals. I would also like to encourage you to consider clarifying the scope of Wikiversity to make it more clear that it is not a place for people to come and build attack pages in the guise of learning materials.

In any event, I hope that my action here will be viewed as helpful. I did not act quickly, but only after discussion with important people, and only after hearing that 3 bureaucrats support this action. It is not my intention to be the "God King" of Wikiversity, although I do request that this block only be overturned upon a very careful consideration of the possible implications for the future of the project.

The first major internal conflict and ban is always tough. My thoughts are with you, and I wish you well.--Jimbo Wales 19:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
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post Tue 16th September 2008, 11:49am
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I'm afraid your performance makes me think of someone complaining about being bitten by a dog who wants to get that dog put down.

A man going about his business gets attacked by a dog without provocation, causing nasty wounds. The man calls the police and shows them the dog and his wounds. The dog is unpredictable and is known to bite without provocation, but he insists on demonstrating that the dog is dangerous by poking it with a hefty stick. It bites him. His friends agree that dogs shouldn't bite, but can't help noticing the hefty stick that he wields. The owner gets his own big stick out and proceeds to wield it against the man and the police stand back as they are not sure who has committed the worst crime. Assault! the man cries, arrest them! while poking the dog and the man with the hefty stick. Blows are exchanged. The dog fights back. The police decide they can do nothing as you are on private land and sidle away, and the land owner gets his security guards and throws the man out while singing protest songs about injustice, kicking and screaming on the way.

The interested observers watching this know that the man got badly bitten, and are sympathetic for the bandaged wreck in front of them, but are bemused at the way the man went about trying to sort out the problem. They sidle away when they see the hefty stick being wafted in their general direction in case they are about to get educated too.

You are allowed to stop banging your head against a brick wall. I understand the feeling of well being is quite to be recommended.
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Rootology   Moulton blocked on WV by Jimbo   Sun 14th September 2008, 7:23pm
Ottava   I just had all parties agree to a three day work e...   Sun 14th September 2008, 7:31pm
the fieryangel   I just had all parties agree to a three day work ...   Sun 14th September 2008, 7:41pm
Ottava   I wrote about the "Moulton" aspects of ...   Sun 14th September 2008, 7:59pm
Shalom   [quote name='the fieryangel' post='129690' date='...   Sun 14th September 2008, 8:13pm
Ottava   There are only five bureaucrats on Wikiversity. ...   Sun 14th September 2008, 8:22pm
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Ottava' post='129695' date='Sun 14th...   Mon 15th September 2008, 3:14pm
Ottava   Been away, but last I looked, some Pseudo Nymed O...   Mon 15th September 2008, 3:37pm
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Jon Awbrey' post='129857' date='Mon ...   Mon 15th September 2008, 4:12pm
Ottava   Yes, I know, I have just been "cleaned up...   Tue 16th September 2008, 2:47am
Jon Awbrey   Yes, I know, I have just been "cleaned up...   Tue 16th September 2008, 2:52am
mikeu   [quote name='Ottava' post='129695' date='Sun 14th...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:58pm
dtobias   Constitutional Monarch, Jimbo? Do they banish peo...   Sun 14th September 2008, 8:03pm
wikiwhistle   I wrote about the "Moulton" aspects of...   Sun 14th September 2008, 8:19pm
gomi   If [Jimbo] would have only done this a day or two ...   Mon 15th September 2008, 6:36am
Peter Damian   This is better than Harold Pinter.   Sun 14th September 2008, 8:28pm
Moulton   This is got to be an embarrassment for WMF. Jimbo...   Mon 15th September 2008, 12:47am
Milton Roe   This is got to be an embarrassment for WMF. Jimb...   Mon 15th September 2008, 12:50am
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='Moulton' post='129738' date='Sun 14t...   Mon 15th September 2008, 12:53am
Giggy   [b]This is got to be an embarrassment for WMF. J...   Mon 15th September 2008, 10:55am
Moulton   The correct thing to do, even if they told Jimbo t...   Mon 15th September 2008, 11:08am
The Joy   And yet another case where the independence of Fou...   Mon 15th September 2008, 1:20am
Shalom   If I were a Wikiversity admin/custodian, why would...   Mon 15th September 2008, 1:28am
Ottava   If I were a Wikiversity admin/custodian, why woul...   Mon 15th September 2008, 2:01am
Shalom   If I were a Wikiversity admin/custodian, why wou...   Mon 15th September 2008, 2:40am
Ottava   When Jimbo does things like this on Wikipedia we ...   Mon 15th September 2008, 1:16pm
everyking   They should unblock Moulton, tell Jimbo to butt ou...   Mon 15th September 2008, 5:42am
Kelly Martin   They should unblock Moulton, tell Jimbo to butt ou...   Mon 15th September 2008, 12:00pm
anthony   [quote name='everyking' post='129795' date='Mon 1...   Mon 15th September 2008, 2:12pm
Ottava   I'm pretty sure Jimbo [url=http://aggieblue.b...   Mon 15th September 2008, 2:23pm
written by he who wrote it   They should unblock Moulton, tell Jimbo to butt o...   Tue 16th September 2008, 12:40am
thekohser   But once you've done it, every time you do i...   Mon 15th September 2008, 11:21am
that one guy   Jimbo needs to realize that he can't always go...   Mon 15th September 2008, 4:22pm
Milton Roe   Jimbo needs to realize that he can't always g...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:09am
Shalom   Jimbo needs to realize that he can't always ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:11am
Milton Roe   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='129974' date='Mon ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:01am
dtobias   Edits two and three are threats to "remove...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:36am
JoseClutch   Agreed - a block on Dan T. would cost Jimbo a fo...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:36am
Moulton   Just as AN/Moulton divided the WP community, Jimbo...   Tue 16th September 2008, 12:58am
everyking   Just as AN/Moulton divided the WP community, Jimb...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:14am
Ottava   I got a kick out of your exchange with Jimbo; re...   Tue 16th September 2008, 2:55am
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='Ottava' post='130005' date='Mon 15t...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:02am
Shalom   Milton, if you read my last post, I basically admi...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:20am
Milton Roe   Milton, if you read my last post, I basically adm...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:23am
sarcasticidealist   We can be fair and point out that Cary Bass has pa...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:11pm
JoseClutch   Agreed - a block on Dan T. would cost Jimbo a fort...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:15am
Shalom   Wait, I didn't actually read Jimbo's secon...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:36am
dtobias   I almost want Jimbo to make good on his threat to...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:39am
Shalom   I almost want Jimbo to make good on his threat t...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:44am
Jon Awbrey   I almost want Jimbo to make good on his threat t...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:50am
Shalom   [quote name='dtobias' post='129988' date='Mon 15t...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:52am
Jon Awbrey   [quote name='dtobias' post='129988' date='Mon 15...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:56am
Emperor   Wikipedians crave this stuff. Attention from dadd...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:54am
Jon Awbrey   DT, WAS, and other Smoothers are the John McCains ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:28am
dtobias   Like it's actually a more useful approach to g...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:44am
Milton Roe   Like it's actually a more useful approach to ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:31am
dtobias   I mentioned SlimVirgin just once, right at the be...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:42am
Shalom   I mentioned SlimVirgin just once, right at the b...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:45am
Moulton   Here is the main prepared message which Jimbo Wale...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:00am
Floydsvoid   I can't help but observe, Mr. Moulton, that as...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:25am
Moulton   If you meet the Buddha in the road, block him. I ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 11:31am
Floydsvoid   The drama that is in play is an oft-recurring (an...   Tue 16th September 2008, 11:18pm
dogbiscuit   I'm afraid your performance makes me think of ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 11:49am
Angela Kennedy   I'm afraid your performance makes me think of...   Tue 16th September 2008, 11:53am
Shalom   I'm afraid your performance makes me think of...   Tue 16th September 2008, 11:55am
SB_Johnny   If you throw snowballs at a dog, he'll probabl...   Tue 16th September 2008, 12:49pm
dogbiscuit   If you throw snowballs at a dog, he'll probab...   Tue 16th September 2008, 1:07pm
Moulton   I am not Dumbledore, either. I'm afraid your ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 2:45pm
dtobias   I am playing the roles of Dorothy, the Scarecrow,...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:44pm
dogbiscuit   I am playing the roles of Dorothy, the Scarecrow...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:46pm
Moulton   [quote name='dtobias' post='130103' date='Tue 16th...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:08pm
dogbiscuit   Surely you did not mistake me for an authentic sc...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:24pm
Lar   Surely you did not mistake me for an authentic sc...   Tue 16th September 2008, 7:45pm
Milton Roe   Kato, Greg, and Awbrey are playing the roles of T...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:06pm
Sxeptomaniac   I'm afraid your performance makes me think of...   Tue 16th September 2008, 9:59pm
Ottava   That's pretty close to my own assessment of t...   Tue 16th September 2008, 10:38pm
Jon Awbrey   That's pretty close to my own assessment of ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 10:44pm
Sxeptomaniac   [quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='130175' date='Tu...   Tue 16th September 2008, 11:07pm
Ottava   True. I've attempted to work with him on mul...   Tue 16th September 2008, 11:17pm
Sxeptomaniac   [quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='130190' date='Tu...   Tue 16th September 2008, 11:50pm
everyking   [quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='130190' date='T...   Wed 17th September 2008, 4:25am
Jon Awbrey   Have any conditions been outlined under which Mou...   Wed 17th September 2008, 4:28am
GlassBeadGame   At one time I thought you (Moulton) were an unfort...   Tue 16th September 2008, 3:38pm
Ottava   At one time I thought you (Moulton) were an unfor...   Tue 16th September 2008, 4:20pm
sarcasticidealist   Could someone with more experience (Alison, Lar, e...   Tue 16th September 2008, 5:12pm
Milton Roe   Well, of course the WMF has had "involvemen...   Tue 16th September 2008, 5:23pm
sarcasticidealist   No. Jimbo has no legal authority to do the things ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 5:27pm
Shalom   No. Jimbo has no legal authority to do the things...   Tue 16th September 2008, 6:04pm
Jon Awbrey   Old King Jimbo knows to keep a few e-musing Court ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 5:32pm
Adam Smithee   Which one is Jimbo again?   Tue 16th September 2008, 6:04pm
Shalom   Which one is Jimbo again? I'm getting a 404 ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 6:06pm
Adam Smithee   [quote name='Adam Smithee' post='130134' date='Tu...   Tue 16th September 2008, 6:09pm
The Joy   Which one is Jimbo again? The far left one comp...   Tue 16th September 2008, 7:25pm
CrazyGameOfPoker   [url=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/i...   Tue 16th September 2008, 9:49pm
Jon Awbrey   Vader was very competent at carrying out his work...   Tue 16th September 2008, 9:58pm
Jon Awbrey   It's the Very Idea of permitting pseudonyms in...   Tue 16th September 2008, 10:06pm
Rootology   Cute, with the IP address from MIT: http://en.wik...   Tue 16th September 2008, 10:35pm
Milton Roe   Cute, with the IP address from MIT: [url=http://...   Tue 16th September 2008, 10:44pm
Ottava   But on the action page it's claimed outright ...   Tue 16th September 2008, 11:05pm
Rootology   Oh, I didn't say it wasn't him. That's...   Tue 16th September 2008, 10:57pm
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