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LamontStormstar	Sat 11th October 2008, 9:40am Post #1
Postmaster Group: Regulars Posts: 2,359 Joined: Fri 18th Aug 2006, 7:25am Member No.: 342 WP user page - talk check - contribs	Should Wikipedia's software be rewritten in Ruby on Rails? Discuss.

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Kelly Martin	Mon 13th October 2008, 6:43pm Post #2
Bring back the guttersnipes! Group: Regulars Posts: 3,270 Joined: Sun 22nd Jun 2008, 4:41am From: EN61bw Member No.: 6,696	The PHP interpreter is written in C or C++ (I forget which), but there are "features" of the PHP language that force it to be slow. Quercus gets around this (I think) by doing some one-time analysis to determine when those features are not being used, and accelerating the resulting intermediate language code when possible. There are other "accelerated PHP" systems that do similar things. PHP is a fantastically crappy language.

gomi	Mon 13th October 2008, 6:51pm Post #3
Member Group: Members Posts: 3,022 Joined: Fri 17th Nov 2006, 6:38pm Member No.: 565	QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Mon 13th October 2008, 11:43am) PHP is a fantastically crappy language. Yes, it is the crappiest web-development language out there, except for all the other ones.

Kelly Martin	Mon 13th October 2008, 7:03pm Post #4
Bring back the guttersnipes! Group: Regulars Posts: 3,270 Joined: Sun 22nd Jun 2008, 4:41am From: EN61bw Member No.: 6,696	QUOTE(gomi @ Mon 13th October 2008, 1:51pm) QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Mon 13th October 2008, 11:43am) PHP is a fantastically crappy language. Yes, it is the crappiest web-development language out there, except for all the other ones. Exactly!

GlassBeadGame	Mon 13th October 2008, 8:10pm Post #5
Dharma Bum Group: Contributors Posts: 7,919 Joined: Sat 17th Feb 2007, 12:55am From: My name it means nothing. My age it means less. The country I come from is called the Mid-West. Member No.: 981	QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Mon 13th October 2008, 1:03pm) QUOTE(gomi @ Mon 13th October 2008, 1:51pm) QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Mon 13th October 2008, 11:43am) PHP is a fantastically crappy language. Yes, it is the crappiest web-development language out there, except for all the other ones. Exactly! I'm a rank beginner compared to many of you but PHP does seem to me to have a pretty workable set of functions for query strings, sessions, accessing manipulating MySQL, sorting, encrypting and doing many website chores. Trying to do anything in object oriented fashion gives me a headache but I doubt if that is the language's fault.

Kelly Martin	Mon 13th October 2008, 8:20pm Post #6
Bring back the guttersnipes! Group: Regulars Posts: 3,270 Joined: Sun 22nd Jun 2008, 4:41am From: EN61bw Member No.: 6,696	QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Mon 13th October 2008, 3:10pm) I'm a rank beginner compared to many of you but PHP does seem to me to have a pretty workable set of functions for query strings, sessions, accessing manipulating MySQL, sorting, encrypting and doing many website chores. PHP makes it very easy to write code that works; but PHP makes it very hard to write code that works well, and even more so to write code that works well and can be maintained. The problem with environments with low barriers to entry is that any tyro can show up, whip something half-assed together and then claim to be an expert. I think everyone here can understand how this can be a bad thing.

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LamontStormstar Should Wikipedia's software be rewritten in Ruby on Rails? Sat 11th October 2008, 9:40am

Lar Should Wikipedia's software be rewritten in R... Sat 11th October 2008, 1:19pm

Milton Roe But I tell my clients not to replace perfectly go... Sat 11th October 2008, 8:39pm

LamontStormstar Java would probably be even slower than PHP. When... Sat 11th October 2008, 1:35pm

Kelly Martin Java would probably be even slower than PHP. When... Sun 12th October 2008, 1:00am

KamrynMatika Ruby is slower than PHP. Ruby can be 20x slower th... Sat 11th October 2008, 5:10pm

Somey Personally, now that Delphi for PHP exists, I can... Sat 11th October 2008, 8:02pm

LamontStormstar Personally, now that Delphi for PHP exists, I can... Mon 13th October 2008, 5:44pm

Somey I'm not sure what Delphi for PHP is about. De... Mon 13th October 2008, 6:32pm

gomi Hmm... isn't the native PHP interpreter writt... Mon 13th October 2008, 6:49pm

The Joy I thought Brion Vibber and friends had switched to... Sat 11th October 2008, 8:14pm

KamrynMatika I thought Brion Vibber and friends had switched t... Sat 11th October 2008, 8:26pm

Kelly Martin The PHP interpreter is written in C or C++ (I forg... Mon 13th October 2008, 6:43pm

Somey PHP is a fantastically crappy language. It's a... Mon 13th October 2008, 6:51pm

gomi PHP is a fantastically crappy language. Yes, it is... Mon 13th October 2008, 6:51pm

Kelly Martin PHP is a fantastically crappy language.Yes, it is ... Mon 13th October 2008, 7:03pm

GlassBeadGame [quote name='gomi' post='135661' date='Mon 13th O... Mon 13th October 2008, 8:10pm

Kelly Martin I'm a rank beginner compared to many of you bu... Mon 13th October 2008, 8:20pm

GlassBeadGame I'm a rank beginner compared to many of you b... Mon 13th October 2008, 8:27pm

LamontStormstar I know the site Twitter runs on RoR. Kelly, what ... Mon 13th October 2008, 6:49pm

LamontStormstar Hmmm I thought Python was faster than PHP and Perl... Mon 13th October 2008, 6:57pm

gomi Hmmm I thought Python was faster than PHP and Per... Mon 13th October 2008, 8:52pm

dogbiscuit In the old days MySQL was a no no compared with Po... Mon 13th October 2008, 9:10pm

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