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After months of speculation on MBisanz' page, official candidacies are being accepted, and will be for the next two weeks. Standing candidates (scroll up for table of contents). Privatemusings is the first to cross form "likely" to actual candidacy.

Hopefully there will be some good dark horses.

Jdforrester has an interesting statement that concludes, "I do not expect to be given the community's support; nevertheless, I ask it, and welcome any and all questions."

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The Arbitration Committee is almost entirely irrelevant at Wikipedia. The committee is not "the leadership". It oversees only a handful of convoluted cases a year that largely have nothing to do with an encyclopedia's content. Most of these cases relate only to ridiculous trivial dramatic feuds. And even then, the Arbitration Committee tends to fudge a verdict, resulting in conditions that are little different to those if the players had never bothered bringing it up at all. Simply a tremendous waste of time.

The Arbitration Committee is just another avenue for gameplayers to relieve their drama fixes. These annual elections in particular serve no purpose other than to provide a dramatic Carnival of the Absurd every year. Amusingly, this circus kicks up much negative drama that is clearly harmful to Wikipedia - with no net gain.

If you can't see this, then I suggest that you are so addicted to this crap you've lost all perspective, and should seek professional help.
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QUOTE(Kato @ Wed 12th November 2008, 2:38am) *

The Arbitration Committee is almost entirely irrelevant at Wikipedia. The committee is not "the leadership". It oversees only a handful of convoluted cases a year that largely have nothing to do with an encyclopedia's content. Most of these cases relate only to ridiculous trivial dramatic feuds. And even then, the Arbitration Committee tends to fudge a verdict, resulting in conditions that are little different to those if the players had never bothered bringing it up at all. Simply a tremendous waste of time.

The Arbitration Committee is just another avenue for gameplayers to relieve their drama fixes. These annual elections in particular serve no purpose other than to provide a dramatic Carnival of the Absurd every year. Amusingly, this circus kicks up much negative drama that is clearly harmful to Wikipedia - with no net gain.

If you can't see this, then I suggest that you are so addicted to this crap you've lost all perspective, and should seek professional help.


I think a lot of what you say is true. But, ArbCom is as close to a governance/"adult supervision" body as Wikipedia has. So, rightly or wrongly, WP participants look to them for leadership. If WP had a committee to address the other concerns that fall outside ArbCom's purview, then much less attention would be paid to ArbCom and whatever it happens to be doing at any given moment.

Someone said once in another thread that it isn't in Jimbo's best interest to have an effective governance committee in en.wp, because that committee would probably send him packing and remove what little connection he still has to this project. Maybe that's true.
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One   ArbCom nominations begin   Mon 10th November 2008, 12:34am
D.A.F.   Does anyone have any information about this? http:...   Mon 10th November 2008, 1:31am
Giggy   Hopefully there will be some good dark horses. A...   Mon 10th November 2008, 3:38am
everyking   After months of speculation on [url=http://en.wik...   Mon 10th November 2008, 5:02am
Eva Destruction   One question that springs to mind for me is: ...   Tue 11th November 2008, 1:19am
The Adversary   One question that springs to mind for me is: ...   Tue 11th November 2008, 4:56am
SirFozzie   Well.. here goes.... Wish me luck :/   Mon 10th November 2008, 12:47pm
Peter Damian   Well.. here goes.... Wish me luck :/ Good luck....   Mon 10th November 2008, 12:59pm
SirFozzie   Well.. here goes.... Wish me luck :/ Good luck...   Mon 10th November 2008, 2:08pm
Floydsvoid   I'm willing to answer questions. Why would a...   Tue 11th November 2008, 1:15am
Neil   Well, I've thrown my hat in the ring now, alth...   Mon 10th November 2008, 1:29pm
The Wales Hunter   Would there be any value in as many people throwin...   Mon 10th November 2008, 2:19pm
Obesity   I really do hope The Fat Man Who Never Comes Back...   Wed 12th November 2008, 2:42am
Milton Roe   I'm pretty sure Bishzilla will win; while I f...   Wed 12th November 2008, 3:53am
Giggy   [quote name='The Wales Hunter' post='140941' date...   Wed 12th November 2008, 5:51am
One   [quote name='One' post='141172' date='Wed 12th No...   Wed 12th November 2008, 6:14am
Obesity   I'm pretty sure Bishzilla will win;... I...   Fri 14th November 2008, 1:23am
Cla68   I'm pretty sure Bishzilla will win;... I...   Fri 14th November 2008, 1:33am
Milton Roe   [quote name='Obesity' post='141376' date='Fri 14t...   Fri 14th November 2008, 1:54am
Obesity   I don't have anything against Bishzilla that ...   Fri 14th November 2008, 2:13am
Mr. Mystery   I'm not a big fan either, but I'm all for...   Fri 14th November 2008, 9:03am
maggot3   On that note, why is Jehochman running? Not that...   Fri 14th November 2008, 10:31am
Mr. Mystery   On that note, why is Jehochman running? Not tha...   Fri 14th November 2008, 3:11pm
wikiwhistle   [quote name='maggot3' post='141417' date='Fri 14t...   Fri 14th November 2008, 3:50pm
KStreetSlave   I really hope privatemusings gets it. It will be i...   Mon 10th November 2008, 7:18pm
One   I really hope privatemusings gets it. It will be ...   Mon 10th November 2008, 7:50pm
KStreetSlave   I really hope privatemusings gets it. It will be...   Mon 10th November 2008, 9:20pm
One   Looks to me like a sabotage attempt on PM. The ti...   Mon 10th November 2008, 9:28pm
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D.A.F.   Hey, look! White cat is in the running! ...   Tue 11th November 2008, 1:23am
One   His bid for arbcom is being sabotaged. I like pri...   Tue 11th November 2008, 1:22am
everyking   Could SirFozzie, Neil, and anyone else running ple...   Tue 11th November 2008, 12:39am
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Cla68   Could SirFozzie, Neil, and anyone else running pl...   Tue 11th November 2008, 12:39pm
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Peter Damian   Also, by answering this question with a hard ...   Tue 11th November 2008, 4:51pm
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Newyorkbrad   [quote name='Peter Damian' post='141119' date='Tu...   Tue 11th November 2008, 7:12pm
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SirFozzie   At risk of someone putting a LOLCAT up with the ph...   Tue 11th November 2008, 8:04pm
Random832   Also, by answering this question with a hard ...   Tue 11th November 2008, 8:06pm
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JoseClutch   Could SirFozzie, Neil, and anyone else running p...   Tue 11th November 2008, 3:03pm
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everyking   "Would you accept appointment by Jimbo if yo...   Tue 11th November 2008, 1:45am
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everyking   I like Privatemusings, first off. Do I think he h...   Tue 11th November 2008, 3:55am
Pumpkin Muffins   I like Privatemusings, first off. Do I think he ...   Tue 11th November 2008, 4:11am
everyking   [quote name='everyking' post='141075' date='Mon 1...   Tue 11th November 2008, 4:20am
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LessHorrid vanU   [quote name='SirFozzie' post='141072' date='Tue ...   Tue 11th November 2008, 9:15pm
privatemusings   I like Privatemusings, first off. Do I think he h...   Tue 11th November 2008, 8:22am
SirFozzie   everyking: I will be upfront: I'm not aware of...   Tue 11th November 2008, 4:57am
everyking   everyking: I will be upfront: I'm not aware o...   Tue 11th November 2008, 5:07am
Neil   One question that springs to mind for me is: ...   Tue 11th November 2008, 10:20am
Alex   Wow George! You'll probably do worse than ...   Tue 11th November 2008, 7:34pm
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everyking   [quote name='Pumpkin Muffins' post='141152' date...   Wed 12th November 2008, 2:35am
Kato   The Arbitration Committee is almost entirely irrel...   Wed 12th November 2008, 2:38am
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