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tarantino
post Wed 12th November 2008, 3:31am
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Are there any of you Wikipedians out there who have met the most secretive of the current arbs, Sam?

It's probable that he's using a pseudonym. Though he used to sign his emails "Sam Blacketer London E15", all the phone books and people directories I checked show no instances of that name anywhere in the UK. Additionally he is the only one out the 13 who does not have either the CU or oversight tools and has not verified his identity with the WMF. I thought there was a requirement that you must be at least 18 to be an arb. How has he proven this?

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post Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:44pm
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Yes lucky old David Boothroyd AKA as Wikipedia User Sam Blacketer, User Fys, User Dbiv and User David Boothroyd, was having his privacy protected by his chums.

Now if only other marginal BLP's could be so well cared for.

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post Sat 23rd May 2009, 10:45pm
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 2:44pm) *

Yes lucky old David Boothroyd AKA as Wikipedia User Sam Blacketer, User Fys, User Dbiv and User David Boothroyd, was having his privacy protected by his chums.

Now if only other marginal BLP's could be so well cared for.

When is somebody going to mention on WP that having a BLP up on WP AND using your own name as username, doesn't allow you to use 3 other accounts, at least one of them a sock at the same time? For example: User:Fys doesn't exactly say "Unblocking user:Dbiv (my alternatve account)", now does he? That would be an edit dif comment we'd like to see.

As with the Weiss/Mantanmoreland case we're about to see much gaming of the system, carried on under the idea that is was necessary to protect the editor's privacy. And of course this will be used as a weapon against all anti-gamers. yecch.gif

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QUOTE(RMHED @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:44pm) *

Yes lucky old David Boothroyd AKA as Wikipedia User Sam Blacketer, User Fys, User Dbiv and User David Boothroyd, was having his privacy protected by his chums.

Now if only other marginal BLP's could be so well cared for.

They sort of are: BLPs can be deleted if the subjects ask for the dramatic force of the site on them.

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The problem is that they have to raise their profile to do this. It would be better if these were routine.

There's an understatement. It would be nice with wikiadmins had to put up with the same BLP crap that everyone does. But of course they don't. If they later become admins, then they game the system and maybe get a BLP deleted without anybody making the connection. Or not. If they get outed at WR first, well, then they get what they want, but not in the way they wanted it.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:45pm) *

For example: User:Fys doesn't exactly say "Unblocking user:Dbiv (my alternatve account)", now does he? That would be an edit dif comment we'd like to see.

Milton, you missed both Charlotte's comment above and mine at WT:AC/N. Dbiv was renamed to Fys. But MediaWiki only renamed the first half of the block log (it was an error that was just fixed in 2009. So at the time, it read Dbiv unblocked User:Dbiv, but when it was renamed, it became Fys unblocked User:Dbiv. At the time it would have been (and at the related RFAR was) crystal clear what had occurred.
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QUOTE(MBisanz @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 4:14pm) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:45pm) *

For example: User:Fys doesn't exactly say "Unblocking user:Dbiv (my alternatve account)", now does he? That would be an edit dif comment we'd like to see.

Milton, you missed both Charlotte's comment above and mine at WT:AC/N. Dbiv was renamed to Fys. But MediaWiki only renamed the first half of the block log (it was an error that was just fixed in 2009. So at the time, it read Dbiv unblocked User:Dbiv, but when it was renamed, it became Fys unblocked User:Dbiv. At the time it would have been (and at the related RFAR was) crystal clear what had occurred.

Okay, I have to retract the sock comment (although having this coverred up by software screwups later is way convenient). I see that the "I'm not supposed to do this" relates to the unblocking himself. His reasoning is all-the-more precious: "Yes, I know I am not supposed to do this. Justification 1: Block was wrongly applied. Justification 2: I have a major edit which I am not going to lose come what may. WP:IAR applies."

Hey, I want WP:IAR to apply to me!


We've got your basic campaign bio-massager for Brit labour MPs, who sticks his own bio up on Wikipedia, then spends all his time writting canned political bios and posting them on WP. ermm.gif With a weeee bit more attension to Labourites. evilgrin.gif

Okay, so this is working, until he starts to rise in the ranks. He tries to get his own BLP deleted and is no more successful than anybody else usually is at this (extracting your own BLP off WP is ordinarily much like extracting teeth). He dares not make a stink about it, but progresses through a series of alternatve names. Soon, due to software screwups, there's hardly any trace of the old him at all. And now, he's way up to arbitrator! Who knows how long before he'll be arbitrating cases involving politicians' BLPs in the UK. yecch.gif

But, so sorry, he got outted on WR (you couldn't do that on WP, no matter how corrupt it was) and his real name and BLP name is known. So then (fancy that) Jehochman immediately NOW deletes his BLP for being non-notable. laugh.gif Nobody had noticed that it was non-notable before, even during its first RfD. pinch.gif

And yes, there was some overly private information in it, perhaps. All of it added by the subject. Who was now in a position of not being able to remove it, without notice.

WP: you're totally corrupt. You're full of people who cannot stand your own rules to apply to themselves. And full of other people who support this state.

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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 24th May 2009, 1:04am) *

WP, you make me puke. sick.gif yak.gif


If that's the case, why do you spend so much of your time on this forum talking about it? If something made me "puke" I would certainly keep away from it - although that may be difficult with Wikipedia, I'd at least stop yakking about it on webforums.
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QUOTE(Alex @ Sun 24th May 2009, 10:09am) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sun 24th May 2009, 1:04am) *

WP, you make me puke. sick.gif yak.gif


If that's the case, why do you spend so much of your time on this forum talking about it? If something made me "puke" I would certainly keep away from it - although that may be difficult with Wikipedia, I'd at least stop yakking about it on webforums.


Roe's drama queen histrionics does get tiring laugh.gif
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tarantino   Sam Blacketer   Wed 12th November 2008, 3:31am
One   No, it seems that verification was not formalized ...   Wed 12th November 2008, 3:43am
tarantino   I dunno. I'm just tired of outing. How is t...   Wed 12th November 2008, 4:23am
Knight   I don't think that http://meta.wikimedia.org/w...   Wed 12th November 2008, 4:37am
One   I don't think that [url=http://meta.wikimedia...   Wed 12th November 2008, 4:57am
Proabivouac   Perhaps someone should ask Sam on his talkpage to...   Thu 13th November 2008, 2:46am
Moulton   The record suggests that trusting the Foundation t...   Thu 13th November 2008, 3:56am
Proabivouac   Incidentally, is this really important? I don...   Thu 13th November 2008, 2:35am
thekohser   I dunno. I'm just tired of outing. I'm ...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 1:11am
Kato   [quote name='One' post='141163' date='Tue 11th No...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 1:20am
One   I'd be more annoyed that a prominent supporte...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 2:16am
Lar   [quote name='Kato' post='174269' date='Fri 22nd M...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 4:04pm
zvook   Heh. Of course due to aggressive cultural imperi...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 4:34pm
Random832   Incidentally, is this really important? His name ...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 4:54pm
Shalom   Tarantino: It must have taken you at least an hour...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 5:51pm
Eva Destruction   FWIW, English phone books aren't a reliable so...   Wed 12th November 2008, 3:51am
Alex   It does seem a little strange that in December 200...   Wed 12th November 2008, 11:18am
tarantino   And Sam Blacketer almost certainly is a pseudonym...   Thu 13th November 2008, 2:20am
tarantino   And Sam Blacketer almost certainly is a pseudony...   Thu 21st May 2009, 11:04pm
Alex   I revisited this a few days ago, and I've fig...   Thu 21st May 2009, 11:22pm
Milton Roe   I revisited this a few days ago, and I've fi...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 12:13am
Kato   [quote name='tarantino' post='141270' date='Thu 1...   Mon 25th May 2009, 6:07pm
Milton Roe   So Sam Blacketer was that Dbiv guy from a few year...   Mon 25th May 2009, 6:53pm
zvook   I revisited this a few days ago, and I've fi...   Mon 25th May 2009, 6:29pm
tarantino   How did you link Fys with Sam Blacketer? Was it j...   Mon 25th May 2009, 7:27pm
CharlotteWebb   http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg231/sonitnar...   Mon 25th May 2009, 7:50pm
Son of a Yeti   Not sure I've seen anyone with such a regular...   Mon 25th May 2009, 8:11pm
One   [quote name='tarantino' post='174771' date='Mon 2...   Mon 25th May 2009, 9:01pm
tarantino   This looks interesting. What software do you use ...   Mon 25th May 2009, 9:09pm
One   Looks like somebody's got a little bit too m...   Mon 25th May 2009, 10:11pm
zvook   Something I found on WP. I don't want to say...   Mon 25th May 2009, 8:01pm
RMHED   [quote name='zvook' post='174766' date='Mon 25th ...   Mon 25th May 2009, 8:03pm
The Joy   [quote name='zvook' post='174766' date='Mon 25th...   Mon 25th May 2009, 8:12pm
RMHED   [quote name='RMHED' post='174776' date='Mon 25th ...   Mon 25th May 2009, 8:23pm
UseOnceAndDestroy   Yes it is "just a website", albeit one t...   Mon 25th May 2009, 8:53pm
RMHED   Yes it is "just a website", albeit one ...   Mon 25th May 2009, 9:12pm
LessHorrid vanU   [quote name='zvook' post='174766' date='Mon 25th...   Mon 25th May 2009, 8:30pm
RMHED   [quote name='tarantino' post='174771' date='Mon ...   Mon 25th May 2009, 8:42pm
CharlotteWebb   So we have a UK Wikipedian, with what can be cons...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:53am
CharlotteWebb   [quote name='tarantino' post='141270' date='Thu 1...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:26pm
RMHED   [quote name='tarantino' post='141270' date='Thu ...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:43pm
CharlotteWebb   Wonder if anyone is concerned that Sam, er... Dave...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:45pm
The Joy   Should we call a spade a spade? :grin: Or am I ...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 12:17am
tarantino   Should we call a spade a spade? :grin: Or am I...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 12:33am
Alex   He's now identified. Not that that means much ...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 8:25pm
the fieryangel   He's now identified. Not that that means much...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 8:40pm
trenton   it's kinda funny looking at that page. What ki...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 8:33pm
CrazyGameOfPoker   it's kinda funny looking at that page. What k...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 9:03pm
Random832   Nearly impossible given that the data the guy keep...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 5:39am
trenton   [quote name='trenton' post='174414' date='Fri 22n...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 7:10am
MZMcBride   Are there any of you Wikipedians out there who ha...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 9:26pm
CrazyGameOfPoker   [quote name='tarantino' post='141162' date='Tue 1...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 10:00pm
MZMcBride   [quote name='tarantino' post='141162' date='Tue ...   Fri 22nd May 2009, 10:05pm
tarantino   Resignation   Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:19pm
RMHED   Is this Sam?   Sat 23rd May 2009, 7:13pm
zvook   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Boothroyd...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 7:29pm
CharlotteWebb   Entries like this become confusing when a user is...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:06pm
Somey   Seems to be. Okay, so... Someone, possibly Mr. Boo...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:35pm
MBisanz   ...do we know if he still wants the BLP article d...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:43pm
RMHED   [quote name='Somey' post='174551' date='Sat 23rd ...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:51pm
UseOnceAndDestroy   http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=......   Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:26pm
MBisanz   [quote name='zvook' post='174545' date='Sat 23rd ...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:28pm
zvook   [quote name='zvook' post='174545' date='Sat 23rd...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 10:37pm
CharlotteWebb   [quote name='zvook' post='174545' date='Sat 23rd ...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:28pm
cyofee   Good work, tarantino. There's an Indian sayin...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 8:36pm
One   Yes lucky old David Boothroyd AKA as Wikipedia Us...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 10:37pm
Alex   WP, you make me puke. :sick: :yak: If that...   Sun 24th May 2009, 12:09am
Milton Roe   WP, you make me puke. :sick: :yak: If that...   Sun 24th May 2009, 12:32am
Milton Roe   [quote name='Alex' post='174593' date='Sun 24th M...   Sun 24th May 2009, 10:00am
EricBarbour   Yes lucky old David Boothroyd AKA as Wikipedia Use...   Sun 24th May 2009, 9:50am
tarantino   IIRC Dominic edited the bio around the same time t...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 10:47pm
MBisanz   IIRC Dominic edited the bio around the same time ...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:10pm
Alex   Wow... is all I can say. He sure fooled us. Thankf...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:13pm
Kevin   Wow... is all I can say. He sure fooled us. Thank...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:25pm
Alex   Wow... is all I can say. He sure fooled us. Than...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:30pm
thekohser   Wow... is all I can say. He sure fooled us. Thank...   Sun 24th May 2009, 4:00am
trenton   Ha. Like this kangaroo court needed any more credi...   Sat 23rd May 2009, 11:20pm
The Adversary   Back to "Sam_Blacketer": With hindsight ...   Sun 24th May 2009, 1:01am
Malleus   Back to "Sam_Blacketer": With hindsight...   Sun 24th May 2009, 2:05am
Ahypori   [quote name='The Adversary' post='174596' date='S...   Sun 24th May 2009, 2:24am
Malleus   Sam voted against the desysopping of Aitias, henc...   Sun 24th May 2009, 3:09am
Milton Roe   Sam voted against the desysopping of Aitias, hen...   Sun 24th May 2009, 3:43am
Viridae   Hmmm it seems i blocked the guy way back in feb 20...   Sun 24th May 2009, 2:34am
thekohser   Last night, I sent the following to the WikiEN-l m...   Sun 24th May 2009, 12:29pm
Milton Roe   Don't worry, I sent an even more inflammatory...   Mon 25th May 2009, 8:50am
LessHorrid vanU   Last night, I sent the following to the WikiEN-l ...   Mon 25th May 2009, 6:56pm
Milton Roe   That is what I would do, anyway. I think the door...   Mon 25th May 2009, 7:22pm
georgeieboy   This is what wikipedia is all about. Falsehood and...   Sun 24th May 2009, 10:25pm
sbrown   I do support Greg whos been treated very badly by ...   Mon 25th May 2009, 6:49am
thekohser   Yahoo! Answers joins the censorship squad:   Mon 25th May 2009, 2:33pm
GlassBeadGame   It never ceases to amaze me the rancor Wikipedian ...   Mon 25th May 2009, 2:50pm
Jon Awbrey   It never ceases to amaze me the rancor Wikipedian...   Mon 25th May 2009, 3:10pm
GlassBeadGame   [quote name='GlassBeadGame' post='174754' date='M...   Mon 25th May 2009, 3:17pm
Somey   If that's the case, why do you spend so much o...   Mon 25th May 2009, 6:24pm
Daniel Brandt   Help me out here. Is Dbiv/Boothroyd, who has been ...   Tue 26th May 2009, 2:49am
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